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Call for Board Member Nominations + More
by Nanog News 31 Aug '23

31 Aug '23

*NANOG 89 is Just Around the Corner* *Register for our Next Meeting off the Coast of San Diego, Oct. 16 - 18 * Check out more info about the venue, peering forum, or the latest confirmed talks. *REGISTER NOW <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://nanog.us20.list-manage.com/track/click…>* *Call for Board Member Nominations * *Nominations for Board of Director Candidates are Open* Play a role in shaping NANOG's future. As a NANOG member, you’ll have the right to exercise your civic duty every year, and elect a Board of Directors that best reflects both you, and our organization. *LEARN MORE <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://nanog.us20.list-manage.com/track/click…>* *VIDEO: Students Share NANOG Experience* *NANOG College Immersion (NCI) Program Enables Students to Attend Conference* *Why it's worth your time:* Learn what it is like to experience a meeting through the eyes of young newcomers and see our NCI Program in action! *WATCH NOW* <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://nanog.us20.list-manage.com/track/click…> *Video of the Week **400ZR Revolutionizing Networking w/ Scott Wilkinson* *Why it's worth your time:* 400ZR has changed how data centers are interconnected and how data centers are designed. In this presentation, Wilkinson will show the current status of 400ZR development and deployment, how it changes network designs, and explain what is coming next. *WATCH NOW * <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yub4lx4FFy4>

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Someone (with clue) from GoDaddy, please pick up the red courtesy phone?
by Dan Mahoney (Gushi) 31 Aug '23

31 Aug '23

Hey there. I hate that I only use NANOG for this, but it seems right now that my day job can't add an additional nameserver to our NS-set. There's no email support or ticket system, and I've been told several untrue things about how the DNS and SRS work in text-based chat, and I Need An Adult. Please contact me? dmahoney - isc - org -- --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC FB: fb.com/DanielMahoneyIV LI: linkedin.com/in/gushi Site: http://www.gushi.org ---------------------------

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Re: Destination Preference Attribute for BGP
by Jakob Heitz (jheitz) 31 Aug '23

31 Aug '23

"prepend as-path" has taken its place. Kind Regards, Jakob Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 21:42:22 +0200 From: Mark Tinka <mark(a)tinka.africa> On 8/16/23 16:16, michael brooks - ESC wrote: > Perhaps (probably) naively, it seems to me that DPA would have been a > useful BGP attribute. Can anyone shed light on why this RFC never > moved beyond draft status? I cannot find much information on this > other than IETF's data tracker > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-dpa/) and RFC6938 > (which implies DPA was in use,?but then was deprecated). I've never heard of this draft until now, but reading it, I can see why it would likely not be adopted today (not sure what the consensus would have been back in the '90's). DPA looks like MED on drugs. Not sure operators want remote downstream ISP's arbitrarily choosing which of their peering interconnects (and backbone links) carry traffic from source to them. BGP is a poor communicator of bandwidth and shilling cost, in general. Those kinds of decisions tend to be locally made, and permitting outside influence could be a rather hard sell. It reminds me of how router vendors implemented GMPLS in the hopes that optical operators would allow their customers to build and control circuits in the optical domain in some fantastic fashion. Or how router vendors built Sync-E and PTP into their routers hoping that they could sell timing as a service to mobile network operators as part of a RAN backhaul service. Some things just tend to be sacred. Mark.

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OpenAI access blocked
by Troy 30 Aug '23

30 Aug '23

If there's somebody that knows which geo list Open AI uses (or somebody from Open AI is on the list) - can you please contact me off list. Our ranges seem to have been blocked from accessing the API and platform management tools. We can access the chat demos, but that is all. Regardless of the account or authentication data we get the "oops" screen, which from reading the forums looks like a geo / vpn blocker message. With all respect to the many helpful people that normally reply with Pro forma responses: 1. Our data is all correct with all the sites listed on the Brothers WISP geo page 2. We do not provide VPN / TOR exit nodes or anything else - it's just a corporate network 3. We've not seen any attack traffic or any other reason that would justify Open AI blocking us. 4. This is a sudden change (our environments have used Open AI API's for a long time) Regards, Troy Brevity is the elixir of life. Father Hector McGrath, Pixie 2020

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Re: JunOS/FRR/Nokia et al BGP critical issue
by Jakob Heitz (jheitz) 30 Aug '23

30 Aug '23

The blog was updated. Correct link: https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/bgp-path-attributes-grave-error-handling The attribute was not malformed. This is the hex dump of the attribute: “E0 1C 00” It is described here. https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6790#section-5.2 This attribute is deprecated, but that does not prevent routers from originating it or passing it on. Kind Regards, Jakob ----------------- Original message -------------- From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon(a)gmail.com> To: NANOG list <nanog(a)nanog.org> Ran across this article today and haven't seen posts about it so i figured I would share: https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/bgp-path-attributes-grave-error-handling?fb… Curious if anyone on the list is running VyOS and has experienced any problems? Cheers, Mike -- Mike Lyon mike.lyon(a)gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

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University of Michigan shuts down school’s internet connections
by Sean Donelan 29 Aug '23

29 Aug '23

Only interesting for this list because of NANOG's history with MERIT and UofM. Long since separated. https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/29/politics/university-of-michigan-cyber-incide… The University of Michigan has been without full internet access for two days after staff shut the school’s connections down in response to a “significant [cyber]security concern” on the eve of the new school year. The internet shutdown affected campus IT systems used for research and fundraising, and could delay financial aid reimbursements, the university said Monday. Campus computers are generally cut off from the public internet, but students were finding workarounds via their cell phones. An updated statement Tuesday afternoon said staff had made progress in helping students access resources from off-campus computer networks, but that the recovery was ongoing.

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v6 route mess frm AS266970
by Randy Bush 29 Aug '23

29 Aug '23

is a massive route leak not even menntioned when it is only ipv6? the guess i heard was it looked like a classic config reorigination disaster. randy

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Internet Exchange Visualization
by Thomas Beer 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

Hi All! Has anybody a link to a cost-free service for visualizations of internet exchange inter-connections? Thanks & cheers Tom

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Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup
by Mike Hammett 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

I would agree with that. We've had gear with 40-gig ports for many years (>6)? Never found a CDN or transport network that would do 40. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Tinka" <mark(a)tinka.africa> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog(a)ics-il.net> Cc: nanog(a)nanog.org Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 10:33:07 PM Subject: Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup On 8/28/23 03:05, Mike Hammett wrote: Well, or they simply found a potential deal on hardware that came with 40 gig ports. 40 gigs is still a lot of bits to a lot of people. For internal use, sure. But when connecting to another AS, the chances of them supporting 40Gbps in one or more places is inconsistent to slim. Exchange points may be an exception. Mark.

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MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup
by Pascal Masha 28 Aug '23

28 Aug '23

Hello, Does the MX204 support virtual chassis setup? Regards, Paschal Masha

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