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Final agenda
by Susan R. Harris 15 May '95

15 May '95

Greetings - Here's the final agenda. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) Agenda Monday, May 22 Time Topic Presenter(s) ---- ----- ------------ 9:00 a.m. Welcome, Introductions, Bill Norton Future Meetings 9:15 a.m. RA Project Update Elise Gerich, Jessica Yu, Yakov Rekhter 10:00 a.m. IP Provider Metrics WG Matt Mathis 10:30 a.m. Break 11:00 a.m. Updates from the Interconnection Points Sprint NAP Paul Love and Tim Salo AADS NAP Mark Knopper PacBell NAP Warren Williams MAE-East/MAE-West Steve Feldman and Milo Medin CIX Paul Vixie 12:30-1:30 Lunch 1:30 p.m. Symmetric Routing in a Enke Chen/Tony Bates Multi-Provider Internet 2:15 p.m. Maintaining Consistency Among Brian Renaud Distributed Routing Registries 2:45 p.m. New SNMP Management Allan Rubens Capabilities in MRouteD 3:00 p.m. SNMP v2 Operational Deployment Bill Norton 3:30 p.m. Break 3:45 p.m. Public Key Encryption Laurent Joncheray Support for TCP 4:15 p.m. ATM Networking in Oregon David Meyer Tuesday, May 23 9:00 a.m. OPS (Operational Requirements) Bill Manning Review of IETF Documents 9:15 a.m. InterNIC Registration Procedures Mark Kosters 9:45 a.m. Status of RFC 1797 ("Class A Bill Manning Subnet Experiment") Operational Activities 10:00 a.m. Introducing MRT: Craig Labovitz the Multi-Threaded Routing Toolkit 10:30 a.m. RPS (Routing Policy System) WG Cengiz Alaettinoglu and Daniel Karrenberg 12:00 p.m. Adjourn

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NANOG MEETING INFO
by Pam Ciesla 12 May '95

12 May '95

THE NANOG MEETING IS MAY 22 & 23 AT THE LEE IACOCCA AUDITORIUM IN THE DOW BUILDING, ANN ARBOR, MI. MONDAY 9AM - 5PM WITH A CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST AT 8:30. TUESDAY 9AM -12PM WITH A CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST AT 8:30 LUNCH IS AVAILABLE FOR $10.00 AT THE MEETING OR THERE ARE SEVERAL RESTAURANTS IN THE AREA. DINNER MONDAY EVENING AT THE CHAMPION HOUSE (CHINESE) SIGN UP AT THE MEETING WHIRLY BALL MONDAY NIGHT 10PM (GREAT SPORT :*) ) SIGN UP AT THE MEETING PARKING COST $5.75 PER DAY. LUNCH AT THE MEETING WILL "ONLY" BE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SENT IN A REQUEST. PLEASE BE SURE TO LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT LUNCH. ALL INFO IS AVAILABLE ON THE MERIT WEB PAGE OR YOU USE THE FOLLOWING REGISTRATION FORM AND SEND IT TO ME. INFO FOR LUNCH HAS TO BE SENT NO LATER THEN WEDNESDAY, MAY 17. > ============================================================================== = > > GENERAL INFORMATION: > > > > REGISTRATION FORM > > NANOG - MAY 22 & 23, 1995 > > > NANE:____________________________________________ > > > ORGANIZATION:________________________________________________________ > > > E-MAIL:______________________________________________________________ > > > ATTENDANCE: MONDAY_________ TUESDAY__________ > > > LUNCH: __________YES ___________NO > $10.00 > SELECTION: > ____________VEGGIE ____________ROAST BEEF > > _________TURKEY __________CORNED BEEF _____________TUNA > > > > ============================================================================== = > > GENERAL INFORMATION: > > PARKING: $5.75 PER DAY, LIMITED PARKING AVAILABLE AT THE NORTH CAMPUS > COMMONS. LOCATED ON MURFIN JUST NORTH OF BONISTEEL. > > HOTELS: HOLIDAY INN > 3600 PLYMOUTH ROAD > PHONE #313-769-9800 > $61.00 PER NIGHT > > CAMPUS INN > 615 E. HURON ST. > PHONE #800-666-8693 > $79 (single) $91 (double) > > BOTH HOTELS OFFER SHUTTLE TO/FROM MEETING (not airport) > > Other hotels near North Campus: > > Red Roof Inn > > 3621 Plymouth Road > > Ann Arbor, MI 48105 > > (313)996-5800 > > > > Hampton Inn > > 2300 Green Rd. > > Ann Arbor, MI 48105 > > (313)996-4444 > > NANOG MEETING WILL BE IN THE LEE IACOCCA AUDITORIUM (DOW BUILDING, N. CAMPUS). > LOCATED ON HAYWARD AND BEAL, ACROSS THE DIAG FROM NORTH CAMPUS COMMONS. > > DIRECTIONS FROM DETROIT METRO AIRPORT > > TAKE I-94 WEST APPROXIMATELY 19 MILES TO US 23 NORTH. > TAKE THE GEDDES ROAD EXIT, TURN LEFT ONTO GEDDES. > TAKE GEDDES TO HURON PARKWAY, TURN RIGHT. GET IN LEFT LANE. > TURN LEFT ONTO GLACIER WAY. TAKE GLACIER WAY TO BEAL AVE. > BEAL AVE TO BONISTEEL, TURN LEFT TO MURFIN, TURN RIGHT, PARKING > LOT 1ST DRIVEWAY ON RIGHT. THIS PUTS YOU IN THE NORTH COMMONS PARKING LOT. Directions to the Lee Iacocca Room Park in the parking lot off of Murfin. Go to the far left-hand side of the parking lot where the sidewalk for the North Campus Diag begins. Go west on the sidewalk past the Dow Building, which will be on your left. The Dow Building has a large white modern sculpture in front of it. After this turn left and take the stairs up to the "Dow Connector Building." Enter the building at the far left hand entrance. The Lee Iacocca Room is directly inside the building. Barier-Free Access Park in the parking lot off of Murfin. Go to the far left-hand side of the parking lot where the sidewalk for the North Campus Diag begins. Go west on the sidewalk to the Dow Building which will be on your left. The Dow Building has a large white modern sculpture in front of it. Take the entrance on the west-most side of the Dow Building (right after the white sculpture). From there, take the elevator to the second floor. Get off the elevator and make a right hand turn. Go down the hall until the hall ends. Turn right here and the Lee Iacocca Room is directly on your right. THERE ARE POSTSCRIPT FILES AVAILABLE FOR MAPS FOR THE ABOVE DIRECTIONS. FTP:/NIC.MERIT.EDU/ROUTING.ARBITER/NANOG/5.95/AA.MAP.PS FTP:/NIC.MERIT.EDU/ROUTING.ARBITER/NANOG/5.95/IACOCCA.PS North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) May 22-23 DRAFT Agenda Topic Presenter(s) --------------------------------------------- RA Project Update Elise Gerich and Jessica Yu IP Provider Metrics WG Matt Mathis Updates from the Interconnection Points Sprint Paul Love and Tim Salo AADS Mark Knopper/Eric Bennett PacBell Warren Williams MAE-East/MAE-West Steve Feldman and Milo Medin CIX Paul Vixie Symmetric Routing in a Enke Chen/Tony Bates Multi-Provider Internet Coordination Issues for Brian Renaud Distributed Routing Registries New SNMP Management Allan Rubens Capabilities in MRouteD SNMP v2 Operational Bill Norton Deployment Support for Public Key Laurent Joncheray Encryption of TCP ATM Networking in Oregon David Meyers GateD Update Craig Labovitz Overview of Multi- Craig Labovitz Threaded Routing Toolkit InterNIC Registration Mark Kosters Procedures RPS (Routing Policy Cengiz Alaettinoglu and Daniel Karrenberg System) WG

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AS690 3rd party routing
by Steve Heimlich 12 May '95

12 May '95

Folks, As advertised last week, ANS is eliminating AS690 third party routing at interchange points. We will make this change effective with our config run tomorrow morning (Friday, 5/12). AS690 will continue to provide ANS routes at these interchange points, of course, but we will no longer reflect the routes of other providers. Those in need of third party routes may contact the Routing Arbiter at db-admin(a)ra.net to set up a peering arrangement with the Routing Arbiter Route Server. Steve

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Carrier-carrier interfaces
by Neal Castagnoli 11 May '95

11 May '95

I'm looking for information on carrier to carrier connectionless networks. Specifically, i'm looking for information about network layer connectivity, such as policies that are implemented at carrier boundaries, how carriers bill each other for usage, and other administrative arrangements necessary between carriers, any information on global internet policies, etc. Does anyone have any pointers to any documentation/information on this? Thanks in advance, --Neal

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Re: May COOK Report Published tonight (fwd)
by Dale S. Johnson 10 May '95

10 May '95

Peter, > Either the Internet at large develops real tools for a "offline > registry" or we have to move this into the exterior routing protocols. Specifically what would you like to see in these tools? --Dale

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NANOG Meeting information on the Web
by B. Regan Knapp 10 May '95

10 May '95

Hi Everyone, I've just made some information available about the upcoming NANOG meeting on Merit's WWW site. I've included the draft agenda, information about hotels, maps and directions, and a registration form you can fill out online. You can find this information by going to the Merit Web home page (http://www.merit.edu) and choosing "NANOG May 22-23" under the "Upcoming Conferences" heading. I'll be making more information available on the Web as I get it, so keep checking back! For those without Web access, the registration form and attached information will be e-mailed to this list one more time before the meeting. Regan Knapp Webmaster for Merit's National Networking Activities -- Regan Knapp Vox: (313) 936-0320 Merit Network, Inc. Fax: (313) 747-3185 4251 Plymouth Rd. Suite C email: regan(a)merit.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 http://www.umich.edu/~brk/

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Pointer to ATM performance work?
by Richard Colella 09 May '95

09 May '95

I seem to remember discussion at one of the meetings of some ATM performance work that looked at the benefits of discarding whole TCP packets when a cell was dropped. Can someone give me a pointer to this? --Richard

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Re: Pointer to ATM performance work?
by salo＠msc.edu 09 May '95

09 May '95

> Date: Tue, 9 May 95 11:43:58 EDT > From: Richard Colella <colella(a)snad.ncsl.nist.gov> > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Pointer to ATM performance work? > Cc: colella(a)nist.gov > > I seem to remember discussion at one of the meetings of some ATM > performance work that looked at the benefits of discarding whole TCP > packets when a cell was dropped. Can someone give me a pointer to > this? I recommend the following, for a start: A. Romanow and R. Oskouy, "A performance Enhancement for Packetized ABR and VBR+ Data," ATM Forum/94-0295, March, 1994. [A short proposal that ATM switches implement EPD] A. Romanow, "TCP over ATM: Some Performance Results," ATM Forum/93-784, July, 1993, available via anonymous FTP from: playground.sun.com:/pub/tcp_atm/tcp_forum.7_93.ps [Primarily background. Says: "We also plan to explore RED..."] A. Romanow, Packet Discard Strategies for Controlling ATM Congestion, ATM Forum/94-0107, January, 1994. ["... Viewgraphs will be distributed at the meeting."] A. Romanow and S. Floyd, "The Dynamics of TCP Traffic over ATM Networks," available via anonymous FTP from: playground.sun.com:/pub/tcp_atm/tcpatm.jsac.ps see also .../tcpatm_extended.00.ps [Explores Partial Packet Discard and Early Packet Discard.] S. Floyd and V. Jacobson, "Randor Early Detection Gateways for Congestion Avoidance," IEEE/ATM Trans. on Networking, vol.1 no.4, pp. 29-41, Sept. 1993. [I think this is the original RED paper.] You might also look at: S. Floyd, "TCP and Explicit Congestion Notification," available via anonymous FTP from: ftp.ee.lbl.gov:papers/tcp_ecn.4.ps.Z Once you have read these, I have a list of more general papers about TCP performance over ATM... -tjs

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Re: May COOK Report Published tonight (fwd)
by Peter Lothberg 09 May '95

09 May '95

> I hope this is a road they never try to go down. > > Joseph Stroup > > On Sun, 30 Apr 1995, Michael Dillon wrote: > > > > I wonder how many of you have heard about the CIX plans to become THE > > Internet routing arbiter and in other ways replace the former NSFNet? > > Is there any serious possibility of their plans coming to fruition? The Internet needs *much* better tools than what the NSF RA project offers today (eg the relabeled work done by Ripe) and what they have made public about future plans. (Next days delivery in a millisecond world is not very usefull.) Either the Internet at large develops real tools for a "offline registry" or we have to move this into the exterior routing protocols. -Peter

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Re: MAE-east weirdness
by Vadim Antonov 09 May '95

09 May '95

Sprint has nothing to do with the loops. Gordon -- you as a practioning journalist should know better than to trust "information" of hear-say, particluarly when the source explicitly disclaimed any first-hand knowledge. Sprint customers are informed about scheduled maintenance and outages by means of a special mailing list. --vadim Did this happen on Friday? If so I heard from a directly knowledgeable source that there was a power failure in Dallas that affected the MFS pop there and that MFS had to bring in a truck with generators to get the node operational again. If this is correct wold the looping be really blamable to either UUNET or Sprint? ******************************************************************** Gordon Cook, Editor & Publisher Subscript.: Individ-ascii $85 The COOK Report on Internet -> NREN Non Profit. $150 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 Small Corp & Gov't $200 (609) 882-2572 Corporate $350 Internet: cook(a)cookreport.com Corporate. Site Lic $650 http://www.netaxs.com/~cook <- Subscription Info & COOK Report Index ********************************************************************

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