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Re: Outage recovery
by Alex Rubenstein 30 Apr '97

30 Apr '97

I do agree; it was only because of people working together (albeit with maybe a little yelling) that it was fixed as fast as it was. It could have been a _LOT_ worse. At 11:00 PM 4/30/97 -0400, Randy Barrett wrote: >Hi folks: I was struck lurking on the list at how all you network types >worked together to solve Friday's outage. While some may worry the Net is >vulnerable, I think it probably proved its resilience, on the whole. Anyone >care to comment, public or private replies welcome. >Thanks >Randy Barrett > >Senior Writer >Inter@ctive Week http://www.zdnet.com/intweek >Phone: 703-938-2087 >Fax: 703-938-2088 >

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Outage Friday
by Avi Freedman 30 Apr '97

30 Apr '97

A repoter from NPR wants to know of any companies in particular whose web sites or mail servers were blacked out completely for a few hours last Friday. Please e-mail peter.aronson(a)reporters.net before 11:30 EST Wed Apr 30th if you have any data you'd like to share with him. Avi

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UPDATED ATTENDEE LIST
by Pam Ciesla 30 Apr '97

30 Apr '97

The NANOG 10 attendee list has been updated. If you should be on the list and are not please contact. Please do not register again if you are already on the list. Thanks Pam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Pam Ciesla 313-936-0172 - phone Merit Network, Inc. 313-647-3185 - fax University of Michigan 4251 Plymouth Road Bldg. I, Suite C Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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RE: Read this...Re: offtopic for NANOG - do not read
by Jim Fleming 29 Apr '97

29 Apr '97

On Saturday, April 26, 1997 12:54 PM, Carl Oppedahl[SMTP:carl@oppedahl.com] wrote: @ At 04:31 PM 04/26/97 -0400, Vince Wolodkin wrote: @ @ >The only @ >thing NSI has truly done that is awful is their TM dispute policy, and @ >the IAHC has taken that very thing under its own wing. @ @ Unfortunately for the Internet community, NSI has made it clear that it @ doesn't plan to yield any control over .COM to anyone else, ever: @ @ Networks Solutions seemed more definite. "It is not our @ intention to share .com or the others [domains] we @ register," Network Solutions spokesman @ Christopher Clough said. "Those would obviously [be] @ assets that we've developed . . . much as Microsoft @ wouldn't share DOS," its proprietary software. @ Network Solutions favors competition, but only in the @ registration of new types of domains, Clough said. @ @ (Network Solutions Dropped as Registrar Of Internet @ Domains, By David S. Hilzenrath, April 24 1997; The Washington Post.) @ @ Thus, it seems likely that (barring a shift in control over .COM) NSI would @ continue forever, carrying out its awful policy and putting innocent domain @ name owners out of business. @ @ The only way that innocent domain name owners will have the cloud of NSI's @ awful domain name policy lifted from their heads is if indeed the control @ over .COM shifts elsewhere. So far as I can see, the most likely way for @ that to happen is if IAHC's plans move forward and are put into place. @ @ @ @ @ People and companies can now register in other domains than .COM. Why would a company want a .COM domain when they can have something more expressive ? -- Jim Fleming Unir Corporation http://www.Unir.Corp Check out...http://www.Naperville.Mall

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Re: Andrew Partan: Re: MAI.net filters.
by Ravi Chandra 28 Apr '97

28 Apr '97

> > ------- Forwarded Message > > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 11:20:17 -0400 (EDT) > From: Andrew Partan <asp(a)partan.com> > Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu > To: SEAN(a)SDG.DRA.COM (Sean Donelan) > cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: MAI.net filters. > > > Any luck tracking down the reason why some routers inside Sprint kept > > announcing the routes long after the source was removed during either > > the incident last Friday or the other incident on Feb 3-4, 1997? > > Part 2 of the problem (where all of the routes didn't go away even > after they were removed by the source) wasn't only w/in Sprint; it > was elsewhere as well. This has been tracked down to a cisco bug, > which has been found & they are working on a fix. > --asp(a)partan.com (Andrew Partan) > More specifically this bug is relevant to EBGP peergroup members. When there is a lot of churn, some of the EBGP peergroup members might not receive the withdrawn message. This will happen only if the EBGP neighbors have tons of update queued (ie unless the EBGP neighbors are receiving thousands of prefixes, this bug will not be seen.). Thus it is most likely to affect people using EBGP peergroups within the confederation. If you are not using EBGP peergroup, it will not have any problem. I already have the fix and should be available soon. The bugid is CSCdj08110. --ravi > ------- End of Forwarded Message >

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Mailing List Subscription
by ljones 28 Apr '97

28 Apr '97

Hello, Could some one please provide me any information on the appropriate methodology for subscribing and posting to this mailing list Thanks ahead of time, Larry Jones Email: lwj0(a)gte.com

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AGIS: ???
by Stephen Balbach 28 Apr '97

28 Apr '97

AGIS has been offline on the East Coast since about Tuesday. Im not sure of the scope, but it seems pretty catastrophic [for AGIS customers]. Checking www.agis.net/states.htm then pick any East Coast state and unless the ISP is multi-homed, all traceroutes stop at Pennsauken [cut to protect the innocent] 9 f1-0.pennsauken1.agis.net (192.157.69.19) 129 ms 185 ms 114 ms 10 * * * 11 * *^C * 12 ^C I estimate at least 25 smaller single-homed ISP's have been entirely cut off for days. AGIS NOC says it has MAE EAST problems (coinciding with the transition to the Ascend GRF Monday morning?). AGIS has been stateing that this is caused by SPAM attacks but I suspect thier upgrade to an OC-3 ATM backbone plus the GRF is at the heart. Anyone have any more info? .stb

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Re: Wow, AS7007!
by Scott Huddle 28 Apr '97

28 Apr '97

I don't understand this graph, is the scale off? It seems to avg around 250K BGP announcements?! -scott At 11:32 AM 4/28/97 -0400, Jake Khuon wrote: >### On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 10:32:50 -0400 (EDT), Cameo Wood <cameo(a)netsys.com> >### wrote to concerning "Re: Wow, AS7007!": > >CW> If you haven't seen it yet, a rather revealing view of friday's incident is >CW> available at >CW> http://www.merit.edu/~ipma//instability/daily_graph//mae-east/mae-east.flapg raph.970425.gif > >Also a very interesting graph showing number of announcements can be seen >at: > > http://www.merit.edu/~ipma/trends/mae-east/ann.gif > > >-- >/*===================[ Jake Khuon <khuon(a)Merit.Net> ]======================+ > | Systems Research Programmer, IE Group /| /|[~|)|~|~ N E T W O R K | > | VOX: (313) 763-4907 FAX: (313) 747-3185 / |/ |[_|\| | Incorporated | > +==[ Suite C2122, Bldg. 1 4251 Plymouth Rd. Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 ]==*/ > >

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Re: MAI.net filters.
by Brett D. Watson 28 Apr '97

28 Apr '97

[ savvis folks asking which versions have the "bug"] we just found that 11.1.7ca1 contains the "bug" but we haven't gotten an exact description of what the bug is. in general terms, it's only been described as: "a bgp router can be slow in withdrawing prefixes even though they've been withdrawn from the originator(s)." doesn't say much, does it? :) they're working on a fix. i'm afraid i dont' know which other versions have the same problem though. we only asked about a particular version we run. -brett

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Re: MAI.net filters.
by Sean Donelan 28 Apr '97

28 Apr '97

Any luck tracking down the reason why some routers inside Sprint kept announcing the routes long after the source was removed during either the incident last Friday or the other incident on Feb 3-4, 1997? >For those of you following the "incident" on Friday, I have now implemented >ip-based filters for MAI.NET and their downstream neighbors. This will prevent >MAI or their downstream neighbors from advertising routes other than their own. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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