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Metrics?
by Chris A. Icide 14 May '98

14 May '98

This is an request for some information for a presentation I'm looking at putting together. I was wondering what special things that people out there use routing metrics for? For example, IGP metrics might be used to determine the shortest path through a network when two paths exist. Some people define these staticaly, some dynamicaly. Metrics in the EGP might be used to tell a peer or customer the "distance" from the destination from that particular edge location in your network. Obviously, these are the simple uses, what are the other uses that folks put metrics to? -Chris

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Wired Q: Embedded NT
by James Glave 14 May '98

14 May '98

Hi all, James Glave at Wired News again. This time around I am seeking opinions on behalf of a friend up at Wired (the print magazine) -- concerning embedded NT. I couldn't find any discussion in the nanog archive, so I'm wondering if anoyne here has any experience with, or knowledge of, embedding NT in networking hardware - if that even makes any sense....? >From: Jesse Freund <freund(a)wired.com> >i'm working on a piece about nt-embedded and i have a couple of questions. >i'm hoping you might be able to hook me up with a smart network operator or >someone else in the know or perhaps you know. basically, i'm curious why >the hell someone would want a version of nt embedded in a switch or router? >and who provides the custom solutions nt-embedded is meant to replace? Thanks, all! jtg James Glave, Senior Technology Writer Wired News http://www.wired.com (415) 276-8430 Unstoppable Force of the Week: "Gettin' jiggy wit' it!"

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Re: bogon dns registrations
by Ehab Hadi 14 May '98

14 May '98

Yep, I confirm what you observed. wwwdell ---> porno URL. wwcompaque ----> map to an Ip_address: 205.187.99.19 --> Phone Book Site. wwwsun.com ----> Gambling site Ehab Hadi Northern Telecom ehabh(a)nortel.ca >From owner-nanog(a)merit.edu Thu May 14 08:35:02 1998 >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01981; > Thu, 14 May 1998 11:25:08 -0400 (EDT) >Received: by merit.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 14 May 1998 11:23:28 -0400 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) id LAA01852 > for nanog-outgoing; Thu, 14 May 1998 11:23:27 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from home.merit.edu (home.merit.edu [198.108.60.42]) > by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01845 > for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Thu, 14 May 1998 11:23:21 -0400 (EDT) >Received: (from ljb@localhost) by home.merit.edu (8.8.8/merit-2.0) id LAA16312 for nanog(a)merit.edu; Thu, 14 May 1998 11:23:20 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from nacs.net (sjsobol(a)devel.nacs.net [207.166.192.85]) > by merit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21788 > for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Wed, 13 May 1998 21:48:02 -0400 (EDT) >Received: (from sjsobol@localhost) > by nacs.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA14329; > Wed, 13 May 1998 21:47:57 -0400 >Message-ID: <19980513214756.61332(a)devel.nacs.net> >Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:47:56 -0400 >From: Steve Sobol <sjsobol(a)devel.nacs.net> >To: steve c blair <sblair(a)dev.tivoli.com> >Cc: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra(a)scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>, nanog(a)merit.edu >Subject: Re: bogon dns registrations >References: <199805130719.DAA13278(a)db3.troy.psi.com> <support(a)psi.com> <199805130719.DAA13278(a)db3.troy.psi.com> <19980513193102.45090(a)scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> <199805132346.SAA24442(a)devmail.dev.tivoli.com> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 >In-Reply-To: <199805132346.SAA24442(a)devmail.dev.tivoli.com>; from steve c blair on Wed, May 13, 1998 at 06:47:59PM -0500 >Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu > >On Wed, May 13, 1998 at 06:47:59PM -0500, steve c blair wrote: >> so how do companies sue the internic: >> >> wwwdell.com >> wwwsun.com >> wwwibm.com >> wwwcompaq.com >> >> are just a few of the typo-happy abusers I've found this afternoon. in >> dell's case it was >> an explicit porno site. > >If there is a suit, it would most likely not be against the Internic, >it would be against the porn sites... > > >-- >Steven J. Sobol - Founding Member, Postmaster/Webmaster, ISP Liaison -- >Forum for Responsible & Ethical E-mail (FREE) - Dedicated to education about, >and prevention of, Unsolicited Broadcast E-mail (UBE), also known as SPAM. > >Info: http://www.ybecker.net or Usenet: <6i6eeu$kr9$1(a)camel18.mindspring.com> > >mailto: sjsobol(a)nstc.com, sjsobol(a)nacs.net, sjsobol(a)apk.net > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: 1.1.1.0/24 #cs-220368
by Joseph McGean 14 May '98

14 May '98

Hi, Don't know 1.0.0.0 assigned to: ARIN Database> 1.0.0.0 IANA (RESERVED-9) Netname: RESERVED-9 Netnumber: 1.0.0.0 Coordinator: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA-ARIN) iana(a)iana.org (310) 822-1511 Record last updated on 02-Mar-98. Database last updated on 12-May-98 16:09:12 EDT. The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's. Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related Information and nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. Thank you, Joe McGean Netwatch PSINet

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RE: Core router bakeoff?
by GUESDON Herve CNET/DSE/ISS 14 May '98

14 May '98

> ---------- > De : Neil J. McRae[SMTP:neil@domino.org] > Répondre à : Neil J. McRae > Date : mardi 12 mai 1998 16:39 > Cc : perry(a)piermont.com; 'Andrew Bangs'; jcgreen(a)netins.net; > nanog(a)merit.edu; neil(a)domino.org > Objet : Re: Core router bakeoff? > > On Mon, 11 May 1998 12:13:27 +0200 > GUESDON Herve CNET/DSE/ISS <herve.guesdon(a)cnet.francetelecom.fr> wrote: > > > I use both CISCO GRF400 and GateD. I think that GateD is the best > > easy to use and develop public routing software. But even if the GRF400 > > runs GateD, it's not as reliable as a CISCO 7500 per example. > > The GRF400 has to much bugs to be an operational backbone router. > > For example when you redistribute static routes via BGP, the GRF > > redistributes the adress IP of the non telecommunication port to. > > This is rubbish and sounds like you haven't RTFMed. I redistribute > static routes throughout with the GRF and it works fine. > This problem happens only if you mention in gated.conf export proto bgp as xxxx { proto direct { all ; } ; } ; Then the IP address of de0 is redistributed. > > The Ascend technical center is not helpful nor the documentation. > > And the performance are limited to an average of 50k pps per card. > > I agree that the TAC is as good as useless the manuals of the GRF are > toilet paper, fortuently I've used BSD/OS and gated for a while so I > know my way around. > > I've seen a GRF tested to more than 50000 pps so I'd like to hear how > you came to that conclusion. > I tested a GRF400 with Netcom Systems Smartbits with L3 cards. Ethernet frames were 64 bytes long and the ethernet card of the GRF 400 began to drop packets when the aggregate througput reached 55000 pps. > > But with the time i think that the GRF could be a good alternative > > towards CISCO. > > Its already is a good alternative. > > Regards, > Neil. > -- > Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. > neil(a)DOMINO.ORG NetBSD-1.3 released! ftp://ftp.uk.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD > Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A> >

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Re: 1.1.1.0/24
by John Fraizer - Administrator 14 May '98

14 May '98

Looks like PSInet is demonstrating their complete and total lack of clue again. [root@eth0-core0]:/ # traceroute 1.1.1.1 traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 core1-eth0-EnterZone.Columbus.FNSI.Net (209.115.127.21) 1.214 ms 1.174 ms 1.365 ms 2 border1-atm6.SanJose.fnsi.net (206.183.239.94) 59.736 ms 61.64 ms 59.389 ms 3 nw.sc.psi.net (198.32.128.53) 62.116 ms 63.285 ms 61.419 ms 4 ce.sc.psi.net (38.1.3.2) 137.828 ms 136.418 ms 133.547 ms 5 rc4.central.us.psi.net (38.1.22.4) 135.99 ms 139.26 ms 135.874 ms 6 dallas12.tx.isdn.psi.net (38.146.199.119) 136.319 ms 137.073 ms 133.949 ms 7 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1) 172.03 ms 182.249 ms 188.195 ms [rs.arin.net] IANA (RESERVED-9) Netname: RESERVED-9 Netnumber: 1.0.0.0 Coordinator: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA-ARIN) iana(a)iana.org (310) 822-1511 Record last updated on 02-Mar-98. Database last updated on 12-May-98 16:09:12 EDT. At 03:55 PM 5/13/98 +0900, you wrote: >who's living here? > >-sasaki > > -------------------------------------------------- > SJS1>sh ip bgp > BGP table version is 15571821, local router ID is 158.205.224.4 > Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal > Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete > > Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path > * 1.1.1.0/24 204.70.158.109 80 0 3561 174 i > * i 137.39.136.73 80 0 701 174 i > *> 137.39.252.17 80 0 701 174 i > ...snip... > > SJS1>ping 1.1.1.1 > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echoes to 1.1.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds: > !!!!! > Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 96/208/396 ms > SJS1> > -------------------------------------------------- > > ------- John Fraizer (tvo) | __ _ | The System Administrator | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ | The choice mailto:tvo@EnterZone.Net | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / | of a GNU http://www.EnterZone.Net/ | /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ | Generation A 486 is a terrible thing to waste...

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Re: Are you alive, @Home ?
by owen＠DeLong.SJ.CA.US 14 May '98

14 May '98

Hmmm..... Class A's.... Size _DOES_ Matter. :-) Owen > There does seem to be something goin on, > we lost any routes to 38.0.0.0 today as > well. > > Is there a monster out there eating "class A's"? > > Wait, Godzilla *is* due soon, perhapps this is > the rumblings of his arrival.... > > Curt- > > > I would attempt to mail some @H folks privately, but that does not appear > > to be an option, given the nature of this problem. > > > > sh ip bgp 24.0.0.0 > > > > Need I say more? > > > > Any information welcome... > > > > > > >

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Spam .. Find the sender !
by Jan Czmok 14 May '98

14 May '98

Hi! We got some spam mail from > Received: from 1cust151.tnt1.tampa.fl.da.uu.net (HELO byte007) (153.37.184.151) > by relay.ipf.net with SMTP; 10 May 1998 04:47:58 -0000 and i cannot query the database (arin , ripe or radb) for the owner of this network. Any hints ? If we can find the sender, then we go for a hunt against this spammers. So far... Greetings Jan Czmok IPF.NET NOC more headers : Return-Path: hioqibua38(a)msn.com > Delivery-Date: Sun May 10 04:48:03 1998 > Received: (qmail 26693 invoked from network); 10 May 1998 04:48:03 -0000 > Received: from claven.cse.psu.edu (HELO cse.psu.edu) (130.203.3.50) > by finch.cse.psu.edu with SMTP; 10 May 1998 04:48:03 -0000 > Received: from relay.ipf.net (relay.ipf.net [195.88.0.13]) by cse.psu.edu (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA21505 for <0000(a)0000.cs.psu.edu>; Sun, 10 May 1998 00:48:02 -0400 (EDT) > Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 00:48:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: hioqibua38(a)msn.com > Received: (qmail 13706 invoked from network); 10 May 1998 04:47:58 -0000 > Received: from 1cust151.tnt1.tampa.fl.da.uu.net (HELO byte007) (153.37.184.151) > by relay.ipf.net with SMTP; 10 May 1998 04:47:58 -0000 > To: hioqibua38(a)msn.com > Comments: Authenticated sender is <hioqibua38(a)msn.com> > Errors-To: shadow007(a)hotmail.com > Subject: DO YOU KNOW HIS OR HER BACKGROUND??? > Message-Id: <199805103688SAA3125(a)post.ipf.net>

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Are you alive, @Home ?
by Adam Rothschild 13 May '98

13 May '98

I would attempt to mail some @H folks privately, but that does not appear to be an option, given the nature of this problem. sh ip bgp 24.0.0.0 Need I say more? Any information welcome...

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Re: Are you alive, @Home ?
by Curt Howland 13 May '98

13 May '98

There does seem to be something goin on, we lost any routes to 38.0.0.0 today as well. Is there a monster out there eating "class A's"? Wait, Godzilla *is* due soon, perhapps this is the rumblings of his arrival.... Curt- > I would attempt to mail some @H folks privately, but that does not appear > to be an option, given the nature of this problem. > > sh ip bgp 24.0.0.0 > > Need I say more? > > Any information welcome... > > >

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