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open letter (Re: NSI Bulletin 098-013 | gtld server)
by Paul Vixie 06 Oct '98

06 Oct '98

I have three questions about: dholtz(a)internic.net ("David H. Holtzman") writes: > In a continuing effort to enhance service to the community, Network > Solutions has added another gTLD server, f.gtld-servers.net (207.159.77.18) > at PAIX, Palo Alto, CA. The server will be operation in the next couple of > days. This server will serve the .com, .net and .org domains only. > _____________________________________ > David H. Holtzman (dholtz(a)internic.net) > Sr Vice President of Engineering > Network Solutions, Inc. 1. As the operator of F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, which is also at PAIX, I'm curious to know whether your reselection of the letter "F" in your host's name indicates a relationship between your "F" and my "F"? 2. In the past, changes in the COM delegation have been made via IANA. Since IANA was not involved in this announcement, should I interpret this as a unilateral move on NSI's part? 3. Does NSI still think of COM, NET, and ORG as its intellectual property? And is this belief bolstered in some way by the ICANN announcements? -- Paul Vixie La Honda, CA "Many NANOG members have been around <paul(a)vix.com> longer than most." --Jim Fleming pacbell!vixie!paul (An H.323 GateKeeper for the IPv8 Network)

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The Cidr Report
by Tony Bates 06 Oct '98

06 Oct '98

This is an auto-generated mail on Fri Oct 2 12:00:00 PDT 1998 It is not checked before it leaves my workstation. However, hopefully you will find this report interesting and will take the time to look through this to see if you can improve the amount of aggregation you perform. The report is split into sections: 0) General Status List the route table history for the last week, list any possibly bogus routes seen and give some status on ASes. 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level This lists the "Top 30" players who if they decided to aggregate their announced classful prefixes at the origin AS level could make a significant difference in the reduction of the current size of the Internet routing table. This calculation does not take into account the inclusion of holes when forming an aggregate so it is possible even larger reduction should be possible. 2) Weekly Delta A summary of the last weeks changes in terms of withdrawn and added routes. Please note that this is only a snapshot but does give some indication of ASes participating in CIDR. Clearly, it is generally a good thing to see a large amont of withdrawls. 3) Interesting aggregates Interesting here means not an aggregate made as a set of classful routes. Thanks to xara.net for giving me access to their routing tables once a day. Please send any comments about this report directly to me. Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr-report.html for a daily update of this report. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CIDR REPORT for 02Oct98 0) General Status Table History ------------- Date Prefixes 250998 51953 260998 51968 270998 51990 280998 52031 290998 52015 300998 52050 011098 52146 021098 52291 Check http://www.employees.org/~tbates/cidr.plot.html for a plot of the table history. Possible Bogus Routes --------------------- AS Summary ---------- Number of ASes in routing system: 4081 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix: 1973 (1035 cidr, 938 classful) Largest number of cidr routes: 342 announced by AS3561 Largest number of classful routes: 953 announced by AS701 1) Gains by aggregating at the origin AS level --- 02Oct98 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsCIDR NetGain % Gain Description AS271 346 149 197 56.9% BCnet Backbone AS4293 419 246 173 41.3% IMCI AS3749 231 75 156 67.5% TECNET AS2493 361 206 155 42.9% iSTAR Internet, Inc. AS701 953 817 136 14.3% Alternet AS174 695 564 131 18.8% Performance Systems International AS4200 191 98 93 48.7% AGIS (Apex Global Information Ser AS5668 128 41 87 68.0% Century Telephone Inc. AS3221 118 44 74 62.7% EENet Autonomous System AS3804 227 154 73 32.2% Bell Solutions AS7046 251 181 70 27.9% UUNET-CUSTOMER AS2685 219 151 68 31.1% IBM Global Network - US AS4755 119 54 65 54.6% Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. India AS4740 395 332 63 15.9% Ozemail Pty Ltd (ASN-OZEMAIL) AS8517 124 71 53 42.7% ULAKNET-ASN AS6335 70 21 49 70.0% NTRNET AS549 196 147 49 25.0% ONet Backbone AS72 87 39 48 55.2% Schlumberger Information Network AS1239 538 491 47 8.7% SprintLink Backbone AS7545 108 63 45 41.7% TPG Internet Pty Ltd AS803 77 33 44 57.1% SaskNet Backbone AS4539 68 28 40 58.8% NETROPOLIS AS1221 314 274 40 12.7% AARNET-AS AS10928 87 47 40 46.0% UNKNOWN AS7122 121 82 39 32.2% MTS ADVANCED Network Policy AS852 164 126 38 23.2% AGT Advance Communication AS10459 47 10 37 78.7% WANSASN AS7657 77 43 34 44.2% The Internet Group Limited AS6181 64 30 34 53.1% FUSE-NET AS2707 64 31 33 51.6% WEC For the rest of the previous weeks gain information please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html 2) Weekly Delta Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report 3) Interesting aggregates Please see http://www.employees.org:80/~tbates/cidr-report.html for this part of the report

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Re: [YA] Fwd: Class B Purchase
by Tony Li 06 Oct '98

06 Oct '98

karl(a)Mcs.Net (Karl Denninger) writes: > Specifically, RFC2008 says: > > While it has never been explicitly stated that various Internet > Registries use the "address ownership" allocation policy, it has > always been assumed (and practiced). > > That sentence, in particular the last five words of that sentence, are > extremely important. 10+ years of a given practice and set of operating > rules cannot be overturned by fiat. One might notice that these words were written in an RFC. Not in a law book. They have all of the legal weight of a Jim Flem-o-gram. Tony

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fiber cut in GTE?
by Jeff Mcadams 05 Oct '98

05 Oct '98

I have a T3 circuit with UU.Net that is carried through 6 telephone companies (nightmare story of a turnup omitted). It's currently down and we're accessing the 'net through alternate connections. This circuit is long-haul carried by GTE, and the word I am recieving via UU.Net from WorldCom is that they suspect a fiber cut...most likely in GTE. That's about the limit of the information I have...anyone have any more knowledge about any of this? -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm(a)iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456

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Re: How many ASs are out there?
by Danny McPherson 05 Oct '98

05 Oct '98

> if, by active, you mean being used on the global internet today, a dump of a > friendly router's bgp data and trivial script should answer that, n'est ce > pas? The CIDR report already does this. The only portion I believe it lacks in this area is number of "allocated" ASs... -danny [snip] To: nanog(a)merit.edu Cc: tbates(a)cisco.com, eof-list(a)ripe.net, apops(a)apnic.net, routing-wg(a)ripe.net Subject: The Cidr Report Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 12:00:01 -0700 From: Tony Bates <tbates(a)cisco.com> [...] AS Summary ---------- Number of ASes in routing system: 4081 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix: 1973 (1035 cidr, 938 classful) Largest number of cidr routes: 342 announced by AS3561 Largest number of classful routes: 953 announced by AS701

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How many ASs are out there?
by Alejandro Avella 05 Oct '98

05 Oct '98

Hi, Can anyone tell me how many AS are as October of 1998. I know there were around 700 registered ASs in the Internet at the beginning of 1994. [pag 178 of Huitema-93] Is there a web page with that Information? Thanks, Alejandro [Huitema-93] Huitema, Christian Routing in the Internet, Prentice Hall, 1993, ISBN 0-13-132192-7

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RE: How many ASs are out there?
by Goldstein_William＠bns.att.com 05 Oct '98

05 Oct '98

Are all these "active"? I know sometimes in this business that mergers and other consolidations cause one company or organization to "fold" more than one autonomous system into a single autonomous system. Is there any way to trace which AS #'s are dormant, retired, no longer in use, etc.? Or is this basically unknowable? Bill Goldstein Senior Internet Specialist AT&T wgoldstein(a)att.com TEL:(412)642-7288 ---------- From: cosmo Sent: Monday, October 05, 1998 11:14 AM To: nanog Cc: cosmo Subject: Re: How many ASs are out there? Well it looks like they (ARIN) are up to about 11554. This AS was the last created (Friday 10-1) according to the ARIN ASN database accessible from "whois". Jay Stewart Vice President Olympia Networking Services - "Premier Internet Access" See our DSL offerings at http://www.olywa.net/dsl -=-=-=-=- c:\users\default>whois -h arin.net "as 11554" AcadiaNet (ASN-ACADIANET) 211 High St Ellsworth, ME 04605 US Autonomous System Name: ACADIANET Autonomous System Number: 11554 Coordinator: Kase, Jeff (JK152-ARIN) jkase(a)ACADIA.NET 207-664-3100 Record last updated on 01-Oct-98. Database last updated on 2-Oct-98 16:10:29 EDT. The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's. Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related Information and nic.mil for NIPRNET Information. -----Original Message----- From: Alejandro Avella <aavella(a)advtech.uswest.com> To: nanog(a)merit.edu <nanog(a)merit.edu> Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 8:05 AM Subject: How many ASs are out there? Hi, Can anyone tell me how many AS are as October of 1998. I know there were around 700 registered ASs in the Internet at the beginning of 1994. [pag 178 of Huitema-93] Is there a web page with that Information? Thanks, Alejandro [Huitema-93] Huitema, Christian "Routing in the Internet", Prentice Hall, 1993, ISBN 0-13-132192-7 <<File: Re_ How many ASs are out there_.TXT>>

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Re: How many ASs are out there?
by Jay Stewart 05 Oct '98

05 Oct '98

Well it looks like they (ARIN) are up to about 11554. This AS was the last created (Friday 10-1) according to the ARIN ASN database accessible from "whois". Jay Stewart Vice President Olympia Networking Services - "Premier Internet Access" See our DSL offerings at http://www.olywa.net/dsl -=-=-=-=- c:\users\default>whois -h arin.net "as 11554" AcadiaNet (ASN-ACADIANET) 211 High St Ellsworth, ME 04605 US Autonomous System Name: ACADIANET Autonomous System Number: 11554 Coordinator: Kase, Jeff (JK152-ARIN) jkase(a)ACADIA.NET 207-664-3100 Record last updated on 01-Oct-98. Database last updated on 2-Oct-98 16:10:29 EDT. The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's. Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related Information and nic.mil for NIPRNET Information. -----Original Message----- From: Alejandro Avella <aavella(a)advtech.uswest.com> To: nanog(a)merit.edu <nanog(a)merit.edu> Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 8:05 AM Subject: How many ASs are out there? Hi, Can anyone tell me how many AS are as October of 1998. I know there were around 700 registered ASs in the Internet at the beginning of 1994. [pag 178 of Huitema-93] Is there a web page with that Information? Thanks, Alejandro [Huitema-93] Huitema, Christian Routing in the Internet, Prentice Hall, 1993, ISBN 0-13-132192-7

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Exodus Spam (some comments)
by chrism＠postino.raremedium.com 05 Oct '98

05 Oct '98

Since I was one of the folks spammed (and the person who's email Adam Rothschild quoted), I thought I'd add my 2 cents to the discussion. Firstly, the spam was sent to one of my previous email addresses, ritz(a)new-york.net, a regional leased line provider I used to work for. Word has it that the idio...er..miguided individual had "heard New York Net was interested in purchasing services from Exodus" or somesuch. That is patently false. New York Net has it's own colocation space at some of the more well known colo facilities in New York City and environs. Secondly, in my original complaint to Exodus I cc:ed Ellen Hancock, their CEO. She responded a few days later with an "oops". I found this to be rather extraordinary since my current employer is a customer of Exodus and we've had ZERO luck getting her to respond to us in the past when we've had serious performance issues with their Network. I mean dead silence (though we did get some verbal satisfaction and some small improvements by talking to their regional sales folks after a month of bitching). When I pointed out this irony to Ellen, I got: "well, the problem may be our email system..i do have quite a few emails on my input queue..but none from you...i do try to respond quickly to customers..most of them seem to appreciate that.." I found it even more ironic that a company specializing in being a high tech home for colocation customers would say such a silly thing so I sent her another email suggesting she bark at her admins. I also noted that I was being put in a position where I had to start evaluating other colocation vendors due to the rather poor network performance we sometimes experience with Exodus. That generated yet another email from Ellen within an hour in which she just cc'ed me in a terse note to some subordinate asking them to "look into this situation." I haven't heard a peep since. If it sounds like I'm not a happy Exodus customer...well....I'm not. Regards, Chris -- Chris Mauritz Technical Manager, Systems Administration Rare Medium, Inc. chrism(a)raremedium.com

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RE: Exchange Point NPA/NXX"s
by Wilcove, Brian 05 Oct '98

05 Oct '98

MAE City NPA /NXX MAE EAST Washington, D.C. 703-506 MAE WEST San Jose, CA 408-975 MAE CHICAGO 312-946 MAE DALLAS 214-880 MAE HOUSTON 713-236 MAE LOS ANGELES 213-312 MAE NEW YORK 212-425 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Knopper [SMTP:mak@ieng.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 1998 10:18 PM > To: delder(a)usweb.com; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Exchange Point NPA/NXX"s > > Ameritech is 312/727. > Mark > > > On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 06:52:59PM -0400, Derek Elder wrote: > > > > Can someone forward me the NPA/NXX's that you use to provision circuits > to > > MAE-East, MAE-West, Sprint, Ameritech, and Pac Bell? > > > > TIA > > > > > > D E R E K E L D E R > > Senior Engineer, CCIE# 4048 > > __________________________________________ > > USWeb Corporation http://www.usweb.com/ > > Network Solutions Practice > > 733 Third Avenue 7th Floor > > New York, NY 10017 > > ph: 212 301 2200 > > fax: 212 301 2201 > > mailto:delder@usweb.com > > > > USWeb - A Strategic Partner for the Information Age > > > > -- > Mark Knopper email: mak(a)ieng.com > Internet Engineering Group, LLC phone: (734) 669-8800 ext 13 > 122 S. Main, Suite 280 fax: (734) 669-8661 > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 www: http://www.ieng.com

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