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Re: [YA] Fwd: Class B Purchase
by Brett_Watson＠enron.net 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

On 10/06/98 08:14:00 PM Michael Dillon wrote: > >Also, to be legitimately multihomed is to be a participant in the core of >the Internet. One could probably come up with a definition of what >technical standards must be met in order to participate in the Internet >core and then extrapolate legitimacy from that. Two 14.4kbps upstream >providers wouldn't fit the bill. where is the "core" of the internet? i'd like to connect to it. > >Note that I am not now and never have been a sheriff in the state of >Kansas. I am actually somebody else who does not work for Best. i *am* from kansas but what's that got to do with the discussion? do i get points for that? :) -brett

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Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed?
by Barry Shein 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

We've been having increasing problems with one or more porn sites in the .to domain promoting itself by massive spamming of AOL customers using one of our domains in their From: header thus causing both complaints to us and thousands of bounces from AOL due to bad AOL addresses in their spam lists. Looking at the .to domain I can't help but notice it's heavily laden with what appear to be porn sites (sexonline.to, come.to, xxxhardcore.to, etc.) 1. Performing traceroutes and other analyses seems to indicate that this domain is NOT being used for communication with entities legitimately located (legally, not only geographically) within the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Tonga, as intended. 2. Clearly criminal and malicious activites are arising from sites to which Tonga has provided comfort and sanctuary. 3. Therefore, I call for a process whereby it can be determined as to whether or not it is appropriate to decommission the Tongan domain due to negligence, mismanagement, and having allowed it to become an attractive resource for criminal activities. I do not believe the Tongan domain serves any legitimate purpose as an internet resource. In support of this assertion I want to show you an SMTP conversation with what claims to be the Consulate of the Government of Tonga in San Francisco (This San Francisco office is listed as an official Tongan contact point for visas etc by the US State Dept): world% telnet sfconsulate.gov.to 25 Trying 209.24.51.169... Connected to sfconsulate.gov.to. Escape character is '^]'. 220 colo.to SMTP ready, Who are you gonna pretend to be today? VRFY postmaster 500 Bloody Amateur! Proper forging of mail requires recognizable SMTP commands! -------------------- Viewing the web page for the Tongan Consulate in the US (http://sfconsulate.gov.to) reveals nothing but an ad for a software company, this page ends with: Need a domain name? Contact the Kingdom of Tonga Internet domain name registry. -------------------- Consequently, I assert there is no reason for this domain to exist and it should be removed from the root name servers. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs(a)world.std.com | http://www.world.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo*

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Re: Stratacom BPX 8600 and New Beetle?!?
by David Diaz 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

Ok Zachary you got me. This is the way we do mobile pops to cover various latas with less equipment. It's hell on the staff here but it beats hot potato routing. Sorry, I couldnt resist everyone, he got me... Dave Zack lunch is on me at next nanog and Ill show you the mobile pop (still cant get the router in there, ideas???) >X-Authentication-Warning: fifo.interlink.net: mzac owned process doing -bs >Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:58:35 -0400 (EDT) >From: Zachary McGibbon <mzac(a)uunet.ca> >X-Sender: mzac(a)fifo.interlink.net >Reply-To: mzac(a)uunet.ca >To: "David Diaz/I.P.O.F.-Netrail, Inc." <davediaz(a)netrail.net> >Subject: Re: Stratacom BPX 8600 and New Beetle?!? >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Status: U > >That depends... was the switch cigarette lighter able to give you enough >power to turn on the switch? Did you have a wireless or satelite link? :) > >On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, David Diaz/I.P.O.F.-Netrail, Inc. wrote: > >> I squized a Cascade 500 loaded into the hatch of my Stealth and drove 672 >> miles. Technically since that's a 9.6 gig backplane does that qualify my >> car as the fastest sports car? >> >> >> At 6:40 PM -0000 10/6/98, Zachary McGibbon wrote: >> >Well... We tried the ultimate test today. I drove about 140km with a >> >Stratacom BPX 8600 and power supply in the trunk of my 1998 New Beetle >> >(with the back seat folded down). It was a bit hard to get it, but once >> >in it fit quite nicely and didn't move around since it was so heavy. Now >> >all I have to do is try a 7513... >> > >> >Pictures are available at: >> > >> > http://www.northco.net/~mzac/stratacom/ >> > >> >They're a bit dark, but you can see it... >> > >> > >> >Zachary McGibbon >> >Network Management Specialist >> >UUNET WorldCom >> >mzac(a)uunet.ca >> >http://www.uunet.ca/ >> >Phone: (514)875-0010, Fax: (514)875-5735 >> >> >> Thank you, >> David Diaz >> Chief Technical Officer >> Netrail, Inc >> >> email: davediaz(a)netrail.net >> pager: 888-576-1018 >> office: 888-NETRAIL >> >> >> Colo facilities: Atlanta-NAP, Miami, Arlington, Chicago, San Francisco >> 888-NETRAIL for further information >> >> > > >Zachary McGibbon >Network Management Specialist >UUNET WorldCom >mzac(a)uunet.ca >http://www.uunet.ca/ >Phone: (514)875-0010, Fax: (514)875-5735 > Thank you, David Diaz Chief Technical Officer Netrail, Inc email: davediaz(a)netrail.net pager: 888-576-1018 office: 888-NETRAIL Colo facilities: Atlanta-NAP, Miami, Arlington, Chicago, San Francisco 888-NETRAIL for further information

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Re: MAE NY?
by Sean Donelan 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

amb(a)gxn.NET (Alex Bligh) writes: >> core1.nyc>sho env all >> >> Temperature readings: >> chassis inlet measured at 26C/78F >> >> 78F in my cabinet in the inlet seems reasonable to me. > >Well seeing as we're playing this game: > >newyork1>show env all >... > card inlet hotpoint exhaust >RSP(2) 15C/59F 19C/66F 18C/64F > >Brrrr... paix1>show env all card inlet hotpoint exhaust RSP(2) 14C/57F 19C/66F 17C/62F PAIX is the only place I worry about my equipment getting too cold, condensation and such. Anyone know what the dewpoint at PAIX is? Any other entrants in the cold co-locate arena? Of course, WCOM wins for having the hottest POPs. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Re: Internet 1, Backhoe 0
by David Lesher 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

See: http://www.underspace.com/uf/photolib/index1.htm for ideas... -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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Re: Exodus (last post)
by owen＠DeLong.SJ.CA.US 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

> At 09:07 PM 10/7/98 -0400, Steven J. Sobol wrote: > >On Wed, Oct 07, 1998 at 08:31:28PM -0400, chrism(a)postino.raremedium.com > wrote: > >> corportate lawyer sent a note to me (with copy to my company's legal > >> counsel) that he found my "numerous notes" to be "offensive and > harassing". > > > >Heh. Point him to the Bill of Rights. :P > > IANAL, but if they can prove anything he asserted as factual is not true - > and he knew that when he posted - can't they sue him in civil court? Or > something like that? > > Of course, that's pretty hard to prove, but hey, OJ got off. :) > > TTFN, > patrick > > I Am Not An Isp > www.ianai.net > "Think of it as evolution in action." - Niven & Pournelle > I believe you are talking about Libel, and if I recall, that requires the following tests be met: 1. Malice of intent 2. Knowledgeable untruth If either is missing, I believe libel cannot be prosecuted. IANAL either. Owen

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Re: MAE NY?
by Chris Mauritz 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

I must not have found the right guy. Who would that be? 8-) C Chris Mauritz Technical Manager, Systems Administration Rare Medium, Inc. chrism(a)raremedium.com -----Original Message----- From: <alex(a)nac.net> To: Chris Mauritz <chrism(a)raremedium.com> Cc: TTSG <ttsg(a)ttsg.com>; Geoff Lisk <glisk(a)digisle.net>; <rpa(a)insnet.net>; <amb(a)gxn.net>; <randy(a)psg.com>; <redhead(a)cloudy.lightning.net>; <nanog(a)merit.edu> Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 12:56 PM Subject: Re: MAE NY? > >On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Chris Mauritz wrote: > >> The real problem here is that Telehouse either doesn't want or doesn't have >> the ability to give you floor tiles that have holes cut to your spec. They > >Thats not true; you have to ask the right person. > >> basically rummage round and get you a tile with a random-sized hole in it. >> If you're lucky, you get a big hole in the middle. If you're not, you get >> one just big enough to fit your hand through (and risk the jaggies on the >> bottom) at some random spot on the tile. I've thought about keeping a >> sawzall in cabinets there just for the purpose of "customizing floor tiles" >> in the wee hours of the night. 8-) > >I'm sure telehouse would actually not have a problem with that. > >They are generally very accomodating. > >> Chris Mauritz >> Technical Manager, Systems Administration >> Rare Medium, Inc. > >-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs. October 26-28, 1998, Atlanta, GA. > Three days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and > brightest. http://www.ispf.com/ for information and registration. > > Atheism is a non-prophet organization. I route, therefore I am. > Alex Rubenstein, alex(a)nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member > Father of the Network and Head Bottle-Washer > Net Access Corporation, 9 Mt. Pleasant Tpk., Denville, NJ 07834 > Don't choose a spineless ISP; we have more backbone! http://www.nac.net >-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- >

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Re: How o build a backhoe
by Mathias Körber 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

Did you by any chance tape that? One should get permission to put that segment onto the NANOG archives :-) -----Original Message----- From: Phillip Vandry <vandry(a)Mlink.NET> To: nanog(a)merit.edu <nanog(a)merit.edu> Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 09:04 Subject: How o build a backhoe >If anyone's watching, on the Red Green show that is currently airing >on CBC (started at 8:30pm EDT), they just showed us how to build a >backhoe from a Cadillac, duct tape, and a Thighmaster. > >Hilarious! > >-Phil >

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How o build a backhoe
by Phillip Vandry 10 Oct '98

10 Oct '98

If anyone's watching, on the Red Green show that is currently airing on CBC (started at 8:30pm EDT), they just showed us how to build a backhoe from a Cadillac, duct tape, and a Thighmaster. Hilarious! -Phil

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Re: Internet 1, Backhoe 0
by Roeland M.J. Meyer 09 Oct '98

09 Oct '98

I just took a peek at the Gomes Gopher shirt. IMHO, it would be a LOT better not to depict *any* person at all. Simply a picture of the back-hoe, bright yellow, in the gun-sights. Make is a hi-tech gun-sight with ranging ranging, azimuth, and elevation markings. The back-hoe should be one of those enclosed driver compartment types so the operator can't be seen. No matter which operator is depicted, someone could construe it as being racially/ personally defamitory. This would prevent many of us from wearing it in the work-place. At 08:00 AM 10/9/98 -1000, scott w wrote: > > >On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Harold Willison wrote: > >> I have a pretty good source for custom tshirts.. >> Picture on the front or back? > > >On the back. Pictures on the front are too geeky. >"Let Fiber Live" under the picture? > > >> Any wording on them? If so.. what? > > >Small font size and small caps "nanog" on the front right top, no pocket. > > > > >You know, wearing this in public is gonna cause "conversation" with the >heavy equipment operators we may meet along the way... :) > ___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) e-mail: <mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com>rmeyer(a)mhsc.com Internet phone: hawk.mhsc.com Personal web pages: <http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com/>www.mhsc.com/ ___________________________________________ I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- Marvin Minsky

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