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Re: Rootshell pages hacked
by Richard Steenbergen 30 Oct '98

30 Oct '98

>JR Mayberry wrote: >> >> Supposedly sendmail 8.9.1 is to blame, not ssh. >> http://www.sendmail.com/sendmail.8.9.1a.html > >MIME buffer overflows is *not* a sendmail problem. What made you say >this? I believe the sendmail 8.9.1 speculation comes from the fact that "thanks for 8.9.1" is mentioned on the hacked page twice. Of course they claim they were running qmail. Despite the rampant speculation about ssh-1.2.26 being responsible, it still seems preferable over ssh2 (which is LARGELY unfinished, and rivals even ircd and win98 for the convoluted code of the year award). On the more humorous side of things, It looks like someone at rootshell got fired. http://adimage.blm.net/rootshell/cnjob.gif =) -- Richard Steenbergen <humble(a)lightning.net> Data Innovations System Admin http://www.bitchx.com/~humble - humble@EFnet - PGP KeyID: 0x21581362 PGP Fingerprint: 7552 6AB2 B9C7 5A1B F1B6 8EA3 DFCF 793D 2158 1362 "Trespassers will be shot! Survivors will be shot again!"

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Fw: Priori?
by Andrew Staples 30 Oct '98

30 Oct '98

Andrew wrote: >ELI, the proud owners of priori, munged things pretty good yesterday. Some Dave Cooper wrote: >Unfortunately, it came to our attention that it was going to take much longer >for Ameritech to move the circuit (alot longer actually). >Therefore we had to abruptly drop the connection to the NAP until this move is facilitated. David's post illuminates my error. It seems that it was not ELI's problem, but Ameritech's. Apologies to all for the desultory comment. Andrew

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Re: UU Net sales tactics? (fwd)
by Phil Howard 30 Oct '98

30 Oct '98

Dan Hollis wrote: > The UUnet rep who called me was also insistent that UUnet had the best > technical support in the industry. I indicated to him that I had dealt > with UUnet tech support in the past and was _not_ impressed[1], and was > met with about 30 seconds of stunned silence. B) You weren't clear on this. Was this "30 seconds of stunned silence" on the part of the sales rep, or were you telling the sales rep about the "30 seconds of stunned silence" on the part of tech support? -- -- *-----------------------------* Phil Howard KA9WGN * -- -- | Inturnet, Inc. | Director of Internet Services | -- -- | Business Internet Solutions | eng at intur.net | -- -- *-----------------------------* philh at intur.net * --

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Re: Priori?
by Andrew Staples 30 Oct '98

30 Oct '98

-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Greenwell <patrick(a)namesecure.com> >On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, James Rishaw wrote: > >> OK, anyone know the scoop on Priori? >> >> Our BGP with them went down yesterday(?) some time. Nobody's answering >> e-mail, and three of the four listed numbers I've tried have been >> disconnected.. "www.priori.net" gives NXDOMAIN .. ? >> > >You're joking, right? Heh,,, ELI, the proud owners of priori, munged things pretty good yesterday. Some routers are still completely dead, i.e. not routing at all. I believe it started with the router in Chicago, and hosed everyone. They were notified by their customers of the problem, according to the customer. The solution was to transfer the customer from the priori backbone to eli's network. Andrew

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RE: CISCO Easter Egg
by Sean M. Doran 30 Oct '98

30 Oct '98

| Not only interesting, but dishonest. Forcing a company to spend money on | false premise is tantamount to theft or conversion. That cisco gives them | the opportunity for doing so is aiding an abetting. Particularly so when | the upgrade cost adds to cisco's revenue. In other words, I sincerely hope | that you are joking. Yes, I'm a "suit" and only a part-time | operator/developer these days. I think you should apply for various open positions in operations management in several large telco-owned U.S.-based ISPs. There was no charge, btw, for moving from one beta to another beta when you had smartnet-style or per-chassis support contracts of the type all of the organizations involved had at the time. Sean.

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RE: CISCO Easter Egg
by Sean M. Doran 30 Oct '98

30 Oct '98

| Sean, | | Why would they use this feature for that purpose? To fake a router | crash in order to load new software? Interesting way of "breaking the | rules." | | Chris Well, despite many strangenesses in my former company, operations never actually imposed a maintenance window along the lines of a competitor's "only Thursdays between midnight and four a.m. local time" which straitjacketed the people who were trying to build a network that would cope with the kind of growth it was undergoing at the time. So, one possibility was to wait for things to explode and then change the broken procedures, and the other possibility was load up new code in all routers in advance of the next maintenance window, and then if it became necessary, tactically crash ones that started suffering the worst problems. I don't think I ever actually used the knob, but I know at least two people who did. Sean.

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Re: Linux Router KIT
by Sean M. Doran 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

Phil Howard wrote: | It's also possible to get spare parts for PCs at 8 PM on Saturday. | Not true for Cisco. Huh? It's possible to get four-hour on-site intermediate engineering staff armed with a fully spared out replacement box and a connection to someone with a bigger clue at the TAC. Go talk to your Cisco sales team about services. Sean.

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Priori ?
by jamie＠dilbert.ais.net 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

OK, anyone know the scoop on Priori? Our BGP with them went down yesterday(?) some time. Nobody's answering e-mail, and three of the four listed numbers I've tried have been disconnected.. "www.priori.net" gives NXDOMAIN .. ? -- jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. Tel:312.425.7140, FAX:312.425.7240 -- Your silence will NOT protect you. -- "Did they just ask Don King to come to the lobby?!" - davidr

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RE: Priori ?
by Dave Cooper 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

The Priori Network (parts and pieces) was picked up by ELI. It was not technically an acquisition, just a purchase of contracts and some routers. ELI has taken over the AADS connection, however, due to disconnects placed against the Worldcom ATM uplink to the rest of the old Priori Network (only 1 customer still remains on the old Priori Network), the AADS connection had to be moved to ELI's main facility in Chicago (the Sears Tower) where our OC-3 backbone is terminated. Unfortunately, it came to our attention that it was going to take much longer for Ameritech to move the circuit (alot longer actually). Therefore we had to abruptly drop the connection to the NAP until this move is facilitated. ELI will turn back up the link as soon as Ameritech can get the move completed and will contact peers who wish to reestablish peering with AS 5650. ELI has already converted PAIX and Mae-West from Priori's AS10303 to ELI's AS5650. If you need further information on this, please send mail to peering(a)eli.net and we will respond accordingly. The Priori network has ceased to exist and what *remains* of the network has been folded into the ELI network. Thanks, Dave Cooper ELI Internet Engineering -----Original Message----- From: James Rishaw [SMTP:jamie@dilbert.ais.net] Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:18 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Priori ? OK, anyone know the scoop on Priori? Our BGP with them went down yesterday(?) some time. Nobody's answering e-mail, and three of the four listed numbers I've tried have been disconnected.. "www.priori.net" gives NXDOMAIN .. ? -- jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. Tel:312.425.7140, FAX:312.425.7240 -- Your silence will NOT protect you. -- "Did they just ask Don King to come to the lobby?!" - davidr

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RE: CISCO Easter Egg
by Martin, Christian 29 Oct '98

29 Oct '98

Sean, Why would they use this feature for that purpose? To fake a router crash in order to load new software? Interesting way of "breaking the rules." Chris > > This was put in to allow a small handful of engineers in > various companies > to load new software into boxes outside the maintenance windows > imposed upon them by misguided but fanatical operations management. > > This particular feature saved the Internet on several occasions. > > Sean. >

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