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Re: AT&T/Sprint problems - Does Verio have their own network backbone
by Rishi Singh 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

At 03:04 PM 11/30/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Does anybody know if verio actually has ANY backbone whatsoever? It >appears that they just resell, and they dont even resell just 1 network, >they resell a different backbone provider depending on what town they are >in? I do know that Verio came in and bought out Spacelab.net, which was our provider. The color & designs of the invoices changed. All the staff stayed the same, none of my favorite engineers were lost. Verio might be building their "network" on top of existing local networks and then hauling this traffic to their peering providers. Take a look at: http://www.verio.com/netops/netmap.html. >On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Rishi Singh wrote: >-| Traceroute from one of my boxes with connectivity to VERIO (NYC). >-| >-| [techno@amber techno]$ traceroute sprintlink.net >-| traceroute to sprintlink.net (199.0.232.90), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets >-| 1 209.227.6.17 (209.227.6.17) 2.077 ms 2.020 ms 2.101 ms >-| 2 209.227.17.73 (209.227.17.73) 4.778 ms 4.763 ms 4.705 ms >-| 3 agis-mxol.newyork2.agis.net (206.185.152.29) 23.676 ms 38.185 ms <o> Pings are free. Send a ping to someone today. <o> Make a new friend :-). Check on your neighbor <o> to see how they're doing. Say hi to someone <o> remote :-). <o> Rishi M. Singh - Sysadmin & Network "Cleaner"

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Digex Fibrecut?
by Adam Rothschild 01 Dec '98

01 Dec '98

Anyone know anything of a fibrecut in the NYC metro area resulting in Digex connectivity problems (including bacbone latency/scenic tour routing, and downed PX with Exodus NJ)? TIA

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aggregation tool wanted
by Randy Bush 30 Nov '98

30 Nov '98

i have a perl script which takes in the form 133.10.0.0 133.11.0.0 155.162.0.0/15 155.164.0.0/14 and tells me that i can aggregate the first two into a /15. unfortunately, the actual data as paths can differ 133.10.0.0 2914 2907 133.11.0.0 2914 2907 2501 155.162.0.0/15 2914 155.164.0.0/14 2914 so, what i would like is a tool which takes something like the latter syntax and tells me what the origin ass could aggregate. i.e. i am specifically not inclined to proxy aggregation at this point. Maybe CIDRadvisor does this, but I have been unable to make it do so. randy

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Re: AT&T/Sprint problems
by Jim Dawson 30 Nov '98

30 Nov '98

On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > I'm on AT&T, and I haven't noticed any unreachable sites... ELI maybe? Nope -- here's another out our other pipe: [ Mon Nov 30 12:40:50 ] [ root@pdx-s01 -> traceroute postoffice.worldnet.att.net traceroute to postoffice.worldnet.att.net (204.127.5.20), 30 hops max, 40 bytes 1 ns.bytes.net (205.147.64.1) 54.959 ms 18.982 ms 19.484 ms 2 cisco1.bytes.net (205.147.64.2) 19.213 ms 18.972 ms 29.649 ms 3 border1-serial3-1.Seattle.cw.net (204.70.52.49) 58.715 ms 29.107 ms 74.8s 4 border1-serial3-1.Seattle.cw.net (204.70.52.49) 33.812 ms !H * 39.391 ms H Jim __________________________________________________________________ Jim Dawson jdawson(a)navi.net GCN Communications, Inc. http://www.navi.net 618 NW Glisan St. Ste. 407 voice: +1.503.641.1449 Portland, Or 97209 USA fax: +1.503.641.3634 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Dents -- Bind alternative?
by Paul Vixie 30 Nov '98

30 Nov '98

> Just saw an announcement for Dents ( http://www.dents.org/ ) on > comp.os.linux.announce. This is supposedly a (future) replacement for > BIND, as a DNS server. It has some cool ideas (dynamic zones, open storage > interface, control interface, etc), but it looks like it's a work in > progress. let the record show that: 1. the authors attempted to contact me before their release, but i was out of town on a thanksgiving family holiday. they suggested that "some friendly competition" would be good for everybody, and i cannot argue with that! 2. bind 8.1.2++, now in preparation, will have a control interface (like ctlinnd) rather than signals. 3. bind 9.0, also now in preparation but not due 'til next year, will have dynamic zones, an open storage interface, and a lot of other stuff. > Has anyone looked at this? It seems like it could (theoretically) address > several of the DNS issues that have been discussed here and on inet-access > lately. since bind is funded by ISP's, i can only imagine that it is also going to address most of the DNS issues that have been brought up here and elsewhere. > I'm not quite sure I understand why these features weren't just > contributed to BIND, but maybe it is time for a fresh start... perhaps the authors think ISC's source isn't "open" enough, or perhaps they didn't know that ISC was hiring DNS software engineers. or perhaps they just had some ideas they wanted to try out. (bind 9.0 is a fresh start, other than the configuration file parser and some of the underlying libraries.) coming, as it does, on the heels of a recent announcement from philips (.se) of a load balancing web proxying dns serving open source content server, it seems that folks everywhere at once are finding dns service an interesting area to work in. hopefully there will be a lot of code sharing, to the betterment of all. -- Paul Vixie <paul(a)vix.com>

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RE: AT&T/Sprint problems
by Dan Rabb 30 Nov '98

30 Nov '98

Here's another one to sprintlink... this one looks good too. traceroute to 199.0.232.90 (199.0.232.90), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 sl-gw5-nyc-5-1-1-6M.sprintlink.net (144.232.171.93) 1.435 ms 1.245 ms 1.18 ms 2 sl-bb10-nyc-2-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.7.53) 1.229 ms 1.254 ms 1.143 ms 3 sl-bb10-chi-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.202) 23.64 ms 23.673 ms 23.656 ms 4 sl-bb4-chi-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.0.166) 24.333 ms 24.155 ms 24.177 ms 5 144.228.252.13 (144.228.252.13) 25.052 ms 26.468 ms 25.29 ms 6 144.228.158.202 (144.228.158.202) 67.511 ms 73.599 ms 80.131 ms 7 tiny.sprintlink.net (199.0.232.90) 87.195 ms * 63.64 ms Dan Rabb digital broadcast network dan(a)dbn.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Jim Dawson Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 2:56 PM To: Chris Cappuccio Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: AT&T/Sprint problems On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Chris Cappuccio wrote: > I'm on AT&T, and I haven't noticed any unreachable sites... ELI maybe? Nope -- here's another out our other pipe: [ Mon Nov 30 12:40:50 ] [ root@pdx-s01 -> traceroute postoffice.worldnet.att.net traceroute to postoffice.worldnet.att.net (204.127.5.20), 30 hops max, 40 bytes 1 ns.bytes.net (205.147.64.1) 54.959 ms 18.982 ms 19.484 ms 2 cisco1.bytes.net (205.147.64.2) 19.213 ms 18.972 ms 29.649 ms 3 border1-serial3-1.Seattle.cw.net (204.70.52.49) 58.715 ms 29.107 ms 74.8s 4 border1-serial3-1.Seattle.cw.net (204.70.52.49) 33.812 ms !H * 39.391 ms H Jim __________________________________________________________________ Jim Dawson jdawson(a)navi.net GCN Communications, Inc. http://www.navi.net 618 NW Glisan St. Ste. 407 voice: +1.503.641.1449 Portland, Or 97209 USA fax: +1.503.641.3634 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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RE: AT&T/Sprint problems
by Dan Rabb 30 Nov '98

30 Nov '98

Traceroutes to sprintlink.net seem fine here... Tracing route to sprintlink.net [199.0.232.90] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms vlan2-lr1.stl1.dbn.net [209.251.166.1] 2 <10 ms * <10 ms lilublue.stl1.dbn.net [209.251.163.50] 3 <10 ms * <10 ms ge033-gr1.stl1.dbn.net [209.251.163.53] 4 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms ga090-gr1.stl2.dbn.net [209.251.164.2] 5 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms sl-gw5-kc-5-0-1-6M.sprintlink.net [144.232.132.5] 6 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms sl-bb10-kc-1-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.2.61] 7 31 ms 30 ms 40 ms sl-bb10-chi-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.117] 8 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms 144.232.0.138 9 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms 144.228.252.13 10 60 ms 60 ms 70 ms 144.228.158.202 11 60 ms 60 ms 70 ms tiny.sprintlink.net [199.0.232.90] Trace complete. Dan Rabb digital broadcast network (314) 733-3127 dan(a)dbn.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Jim Dawson Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 2:34 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: AT&T/Sprint problems AT&T seems to be completely gone, and Sprint connectivity is getting progressively worse. Anyone know what's going on? For instance: [ Mon Nov 30 12:24:21 ] [ root@pdx-s02 -> traceroute sprintlink.net traceroute to sprintlink.net (199.0.232.90), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 pdx-pm01 (209.188.52.11) 1.055 ms 0.801 ms 0.774 ms 2 209.104.198.73 (209.104.198.73) 3.968 ms 4.637 ms 4.334 ms 3 a0-0-17.edge0.pao.priori.net (209.104.192.77) 111.857 ms 50.848 ms 40.709 ms 4 f0-0-0.plalic01.eli.net (207.173.115.249) 40.981 ms 40.323 ms 40.550 ms 5 a0-0--5.scrlic01.eli.net (207.173.113.141) 45.199 ms 48.857 ms 48.961 ms 6 sl-gw8-stk-12-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.107.17) 46.588 ms 276.005 ms 277. 638 ms 7 * * * etc. Jim __________________________________________________________________ Jim Dawson jdawson(a)navi.net GCN Communications, Inc. http://www.navi.net 618 NW Glisan St. Ste. 407 voice: +1.503.641.1449 Portland, Or 97209 USA fax: +1.503.641.3634 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Dents -- Bind alternative?
by Pete Kruckenberg 30 Nov '98

30 Nov '98

Just saw an announcement for Dents ( http://www.dents.org/ ) on comp.os.linux.announce. This is supposedly a (future) replacement for BIND, as a DNS server. It has some cool ideas (dynamic zones, open storage interface, control interface, etc), but it looks like it's a work in progress. Has anyone looked at this? It seems like it could (theoretically) address several of the DNS issues that have been discussed here and on inet-access lately. I'm not quite sure I understand why these features weren't just contributed to BIND, but maybe it is time for a fresh start... Pete. P.S. Looks like one of the participants works for Mindspring, but there doesn't appear to be any association between this project and Mindspring. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Todd Graham Lewis <tlewis(a)mindspring.net> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Subject: Dents v0.0.1 - a DNS server Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:59:06 GMT ANNOUNCEMENT ============ We announce the first public release of Dents, an implementation of the Domain Name Service, as defined in RFC 1035 and others. Dents was designed and implemented by Johannes Erdfelt (jerdfelt(a)sventech.com) and Todd Lewis (tlewis(a)mindspring.com) with Johannes doing most of the real work. We release it under the terms of the GNU General Public License, Version 2, with the proviso that one cannot upgrade to future versions of the GPL without the permission of Johannes Erdfelt and Todd Lewis.

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flow export stuff
by alex＠nac.net 30 Nov '98

30 Nov '98

I asked this a while ago. I asked if anyone knew of any good cisco netflow flow collection and analyzation tools. I played with cflowd, and while archaic, it did work. So, todays question is, is there anything new/gooder/faster that anyone knows about? -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Atheism is a non-prophet organization. I route, therefore I am. Alex Rubenstein, alex(a)nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member Father of the Network and Head Bottle-Washer Net Access Corporation, 9 Mt. Pleasant Tpk., Denville, NJ 07834 Don't choose a spineless ISP; we have more backbone! http://www.nac.net -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

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Still looking..
by alex＠nac.net 30 Nov '98

30 Nov '98

I am still looking for more newspeers, if anyone is interested. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Atheism is a non-prophet organization. I route, therefore I am. Alex Rubenstein, alex(a)nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member Father of the Network and Head Bottle-Washer Net Access Corporation, 9 Mt. Pleasant Tpk., Denville, NJ 07834 Don't choose a spineless ISP; we have more backbone! http://www.nac.net -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

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