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RE: http://www.cctec.com/maillists/nanog/historical/9711/msg00129.html (fwd)
by James D. Wilson 25 Feb '99

25 Feb '99

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Then let your current efforts speak to the problem. Every organization makes mistakes, have employees act clueless, etc. This is understandable, and if corrected, forgivable. It sounds like your company has addressed the problem. If anyone asks about it, tell the truth, and explain how you fixed the problem. Asking (or in your case rather forcefully threatening/demanding) a historical archive of a mailing list to selectively purge their records is not the answer. An archive is just that, and what you are asking for defeats the purpose of the archive; furthermore it is not likely to result in erasing the record as there are likely to be cached copies elsewhere. If you are worried that the post will show up in web searches, then publish a followup page and submit it to the search engines so it comes up along with the original post. Threatening to sue over publication of the truth makes you look far worse than having made a mistake a year and a half ago and then acknowledging and fixing the problem. - - James D. Wilson "non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem" William of Ockham (1285-1347/49) - -----Original Message----- From: Special FX Communications [mailto:spfx@boston.special-fx.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 7:57 PM To: James D. Wilson Cc: ekgermann(a)cctec.com; dennis(a)bconnex.net; nanog(a)merit.edu; dougd(a)airmail.net; owner-nanog(a)merit.edu; abuse(a)cctec.com; abuse(a)digex.net Subject: RE: http://www.cctec.com/maillists/nanog/historical/9711/msg00129.html (fwd) All we are asking it to clear the slate. If e-mail was sent through our servers (which may have happened back then since it was so long ago and the sys admin we had at the time had no clue what he was doing), we have put measures in place to prevent anything like that from happening. We are continuing to improve our servers and service. We are in the process of hiring all new staff and make our service better than ever. We are currently adding a T3 and in the next 2 to 4 month we will have another T3 and we are adding 50 to 75 new servers. You can see that we are investing a lot in our service and we don't need some stupid little page like this with inaccurate information hanging over us. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2 Comment: Spammers are NetAbusers - Jail Them With The Other Criminals iQA/AwUBNtT2cjAufbtGOmgdEQKYKQCfTPycwzOYnpoEOAG8Nk/rSipoN/8AoIdS TpHbKgOpnasnY7ho2ncQgmLu =dFZx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: GateD + OSPF Q
by Andrea Di Lecce 25 Feb '99

25 Feb '99

At 10:34 2/24/99 -0500, you wrote: >On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Brandon Applegate wrote: > >> Would a question about GateD with OSPF be off topic for the list ?? > >Yes I disagree. The main reason I personally read this list is to listen and learn. It would be a sad state of affairs if an operational or technical question was off-topic, don't you think ? Andrea. ************************************************** Andrea Di Lecce (416) 935-6485 Rogers@Home Network Operations 1 Mount Pleasant Road, Toronto, M4Y 2Y5 **************************************************

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GateD + OSPF Q
by Brandon Applegate 24 Feb '99

24 Feb '99

Would a question about GateD with OSPF be off topic for the list ?? If so, where should a post like this go ?? PS: We're not a GateD consortium member or anything, just and end user of the freely availible version. Brandon Applegate, CCNA Network Administrator OneNet Communications 9944 Reading Road Cincinnati, OH 45241 (513) 618-1000

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Outages outside North America
by Sean Donelan 24 Feb '99

24 Feb '99

Since this is the North American list, I haven't been posting things about events outside of North America. Are there operation lists tracking trans-oceanic cables outages and similar things? I haven't looked, but does Canada or the UK have the equivalent of the FCC outage reports and public analysis? I'm guessing the cable didn't land in the USA because I didn't see anything hit the FCC about it. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Anyone in @Home NOC here?
by Michael L. Barrow 24 Feb '99

24 Feb '99

Hey -- is anyone from @Home's NOC around here? Drop me a personal email if you are. Thanks! -- Michael L. Barrow <michael(a)mlbarrow.com>

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A transAtlantic cable was severed.
by Henry Linneweh 23 Feb '99

23 Feb '99

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 According to this bbc article in Sci/Tech and Janet took a dump for 24 hours as A direct result. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_284000/284702.stm Henry R. Linneweh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 iQA/AwUBNtLxjeBkoZ0XTT12EQLFFwCgpnisv5TQeHftecY1c2q1mED1teUAoOYP cz9UHrT/9VvoHLDEscZ+5a/1 =mLEq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: A transAtlantic cable was severed.
by Dean Anderson 23 Feb '99

23 Feb '99

At 04:24 PM 2/23/1999 -0500, Ravi Pina wrote: >> There's an obvious problem. How could they locate both ends, >> lift same, splice, and seal the cable in 24 hours? > >Specially trained sea monkeys? Sea horses on steroids. --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean(a)av8.com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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RE: transatlantic cable cut
by Chris Mauritz 23 Feb '99

23 Feb '99

Those pesky backhoe drivers will stop at NOTHING!!!! 8-) Chris Mauritz Director, Systems Administration Rare Medium, Inc. chrism(a)raremedium.com -----Original Message----- From: hhui(a)arcfour.com [mailto:hhui@arcfour.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:22 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: transatlantic cable cut anyone have any more info on the transatlantic cable cut? it's front page news on BBC online right now.. were any non teleglobe customers affected? how much capacity was put on the cable? (it sounded overloaded to me) curiouser and curiouser, -h

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transatlantic cable cut
by hhui＠arcfour.com 23 Feb '99

23 Feb '99

anyone have any more info on the transatlantic cable cut? it's front page news on BBC online right now.. were any non teleglobe customers affected? how much capacity was put on the cable? (it sounded overloaded to me) curiouser and curiouser, -h

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Re: honoring AS-path prepend from a peer or customer?
by Danny McPherson 22 Feb '99

22 Feb '99

Perhaps you should reread the original message regarding issues associated with honoring undocumented/misrepresented AS Paths.. As for what you mention below, perhaps you should have a look at the document referenced in the latter portion of my original message. I can say from several years of Operational experience, what you suggest below, in the context it's in, isn't a very good idea. There are much more intelligent mechanisms to obtain desired ingress and egress traffic distribution.. Now, perhaps applying policies or the like based on AS_PATH would be reasonable to some extent, but suppressing or manipulating specific path entries is only asking for trouble. Bedsides that, I'm not aware of any router vendor shipping code that would do anything along these lines, with the exception of the "private-AS" stuff that some support.. -danny Terence wrote: >It's very useful if you want to keep a link rather free of traffic in case >of a backup service from another NSP, and then when your big pipe goes >down, you have this other service with routes intact ready to roll without >intervention.

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