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Re: New form of packet attack named Stream
by Paul Vixie 26 Jan '00

26 Jan '00

A better-late-than-never followup: jamie(a)dilbert.exodus.net (Jamie Rishaw) writes: > Unless you are > Vixie > ... > A major s/w key figure > or comparable entity > > .. or someone that knows me IRL, and has for some time .. please do not > e-mail me asking for the code. I sent Jamie a request, and he sent me the code (thanks!) and I read it and indeed it's not real different from a lot of other synflooders out there (but it sure is the cleanest implementation I've seen). Someone from ISC ran it against F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET for a while, and while the gross CPU usage went up, the rate of DNS response generation did not change. Thus we concluded that a 4-CPU Alpha ES40 running Tru64 5.0 is "safe". -- Paul Vixie <vixie(a)mibh.net> SVP for Internet Services, MFNX M.I.B.H. Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Metromedia Fiber Network, Inc.

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Re: www.etrade.com has no DNS A record !
by John Hawkinson 26 Jan '00

26 Jan '00

> From: Nanog Maillist <nanog(a)oneworld.owt.com> Whereas you are missing the simple courtesy of an identity? Or the courtesy of keeping frivolous replies off of the mailing list? More realistically, though, I don't believe evaluation of the utility of the mailing list is relevent at all to the humor axis. Personally I don't think single site outages are nanog-relevent unless they are really operationally relevent (root nameserver, etc., etc.). On the other hand, I'm willing to accept them if the consensus is against me. But your comment seems to have no place here that I can see. --jhawk > To: John Hawkinson <jhawk(a)bbnplanet.com> > cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: www.etrade.com has no DNS A record ! > In-Reply-To: <20000125220619.B19709(a)jhawk-foo.bbnplanet.com> > > > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, John Hawkinson wrote: > > > > > Am I missing something here? [Like a sense of humor?] > > > > Yup

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Domain Registration Woes
by Douglas Denault 26 Jan '00

26 Jan '00

I apologize in advance if this is too far off topic We are a small web hosting firm doing 20-40 domains/month. A few days ago email submissions stopped working. The good folks over at NSI that they submit to public abuse do not have a clue as to what the powers that be do from day-to-day. The numbers they give out simply say, "we are too busy to answer the phone". I would say I wish we had that much business, but the truth is I would rather shovel out the barn. End of rant, so my questions are: 1) anyone know what gives; I have used the 4.0 and 6.0 forms 2) does anyone know of/have experience with another registrar that takes email submissions As sort of an open letter part: Chuck: hope you are going better than the service you oversee. Any other registar: there is a business oportunity here guys. Make any flames to me personally please. -- doug(a)pemiquid.safeport.com

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More DACS problems
by Sean Donelan 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Last week Sprint filed a FCC outage report about a DACS failure during a software upgrade. What is up with the DACS vendors. There seems to continuing problems when telco's upgrade the software on their DACS equipment. Since telcos have created a design with DACS as a single point of failure, these outages have a big impact on non-switched services such as data lines. Has anyone heard what, if anything, the telcos and DACS vendors are doing to solve these software upgrade problems on their DACS equipment?

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Area 51 outage report withdrawn
by Sean Donelan 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

A case for Scully, Mulder and The Lone Gunmen? I received an update about an outage report I mentioned last month. Sprint requested the FCC withdraw the outage report referring to a DACS failure serving "Area 51" on December 22, 1999.

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Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by Erik-Jan Bos 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

jld, > What's even more disturbing is the fact that the US Congress thinks it can > control the Internet... > I thought the Internet was worldwide (read: not only in the USA) thing. You are correct :-). But perhaps US Congress does not understand yet. __ Erik-Jan Bos The Netherlands, Europe

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Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by jeanlou.dupont＠na.marconicomms.com 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

... and the "Baseball World Series" only involves teams from the USA... Well, probably I don't understand enough about life in general to make a sane judgement call. jld. ;-) Erik-Jan Bos <erik-jan.bos(a)surfnet.nl> on 01/25/2000 03:10:13 PM To: Jeanlou Dupont/RMQ/RELTECCORP@MCMAIN cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access] jld, > What's even more disturbing is the fact that the US Congress thinks it can > control the Internet... > I thought the Internet was worldwide (read: not only in the USA) thing. You are correct :-). But perhaps US Congress does not understand yet. __ Erik-Jan Bos The Netherlands, Europe

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Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by Brad S. Dreisbach 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

> > CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to > vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet > access. Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we > will receive a long distance charge. This will get costly. > Please visit the following web site and file a complaint to your > Congressperson. > We can't allow this to pass! The following address will allow you to > send an e-mail on this subject DIRECTLY to your Congressperson. > http://www.house.gov/writerep > Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope all of you will pass > this on to all your friends and family. We should ALL have an interest > in this one. > WAIT, THERE'S MORE! IN ADDITION, The last few months have revealed an > alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to > quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the > Internet. Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be > attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill > 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every > email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The > consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C. lawyer > Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from > becoming law. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due > to the proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue > per year. (Oh, isn't that too bad?) You may have noticed their recent > ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". Since the average citizen > received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the > typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 > dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. > Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service > for > a service they do not even provide. > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If > the > federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a > surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying > an > exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It > currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York > to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is allowed to tinker > with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United > States. > One congressman, Tony Schnell (r) has even suggested a "twenty to forty > dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the > government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major > newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the > Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept > whose time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). > Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this e-mail to > EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write > to > their Congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few > moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a > bill we don't > want. > > PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL > REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT > ALL OF US ONLINE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER. >

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Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by Brad S. Dreisbach 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Apparently I was the only un-informed list reader. My appologies to everyone. -b !Delivered-To: nanog-outgoing(a)merit.edu !Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:54:28 -0500 (EST) !From: Charles Sprickman <spork(a)inch.com> !To: "Brad S. Dreisbach" <bradd(a)dn.net> !Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu !Subject: Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access] !MIME-Version: 1.0 !X-Loop: nanog ! ! !Just a general note, never mail anything to anyone else that says: ! !"PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL" (or much of anything !else written ALL-CAPS. ! !See: ! !http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html#emailtax ! !http://www.kylgrafx.com/bill602.htm ! !Charles ! !On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Brad S. Dreisbach wrote: ! !> > CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to !> > vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet !> > access. Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we !> > will receive a long distance charge. This will get costly. !> > Please visit the following web site and file a complaint to your !> > Congressperson. !> > We can't allow this to pass! The following address will allow you to !> > send an e-mail on this subject DIRECTLY to your Congressperson. !> > http://www.house.gov/writerep !> > Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope all of you will pass !> > this on to all your friends and family. We should ALL have an interest !> > in this one. !> > WAIT, THERE'S MORE! IN ADDITION, The last few months have revealed an !> > alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to !> > quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the !> > Internet. Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be !> > attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill !> > 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every !> > email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The !> > consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C. lawyer !> > Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from !> > becoming law. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due !> > to the proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue !> > per year. (Oh, isn't that too bad?) You may have noticed their recent !> > ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". Since the average citizen !> > received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the !> > typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 !> > dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. !> > Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service !> > for !> > a service they do not even provide. !> > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If !> > the !> > federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a !> > surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying !> > an !> > exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It !> > currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York !> > to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is allowed to tinker !> > with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United !> > States. !> > One congressman, Tony Schnell (r) has even suggested a "twenty to forty !> > dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the !> > government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major !> > newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the !> > Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept !> > whose time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). !> > Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this e-mail to !> > EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write !> > to !> > their Congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few !> > moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a !> > bill we don't !> > want. !> > !> > PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL !> > REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT !> > ALL OF US ONLINE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER. ! !

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Re: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access]
by jeanlou.dupont＠na.marconicomms.com 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

What's even more disturbing is the fact that the US Congress thinks it can control the Internet... I thought the Internet was worldwide (read: not only in the USA) thing. jld. "Brad S. Dreisbach" <bradd(a)dn.net> on 01/25/2000 01:27:42 PM Please respond to "Brad S. Dreisbach" <bradd(a)dn.net> To: nanog(a)merit.edu cc: (bcc: Jeanlou Dupont/RMQ/RELTECCORP) Subject: Fw: Congress to vote on allowing a toll charge for internet access] > > CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to > vote on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet > access. Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we > will receive a long distance charge. This will get costly. > Please visit the following web site and file a complaint to your > Congressperson. > We can't allow this to pass! The following address will allow you to > send an e-mail on this subject DIRECTLY to your Congressperson. > http://www.house.gov/writerep > Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent! I hope all of you will pass > this on to all your friends and family. We should ALL have an interest > in this one. > WAIT, THERE'S MORE! IN ADDITION, The last few months have revealed an > alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to > quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the > Internet. Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be > attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill > 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every > email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The > consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C. lawyer > Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from > becoming law. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due > to the proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue > per year. (Oh, isn't that too bad?) You may have noticed their recent > ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". Since the average citizen > received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the > typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 > dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. > Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service > for > a service they do not even provide. > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If > the > federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a > surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying > an > exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It > currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York > to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is allowed to tinker > with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United > States. > One congressman, Tony Schnell (r) has even suggested a "twenty to forty > dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the > government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major > newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the > Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept > whose time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). > Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this e-mail to > EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write > to > their Congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few > moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a > bill we don't > want. > > PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EMAIL > REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT > ALL OF US ONLINE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER. >

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