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Re: Carnivore
by Eliot Lear 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

From: "Hank Nussbacher" <hank(a)att.net.il> > How many have installed it? and how many would install it without a court order specifying the limits of its use? and how many would install it without filtering to those limits?

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Carnivore
by Hank Nussbacher 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46747,00.html How many have installed it? -Hank

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32 Old Slip AC Outage and 60 Hudson Verizon failure
by Robert Boyle 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Our equipment at 32 Old Slip is not operational. This is apparently due to AC power failure and an inability to start the generators due to ash in the air (this may be a choice as well). Anyone running at 32 Old Slip (TCG/Eagle/Focal/GNAPs are the four I know of on the fourth floor) on DC power is on battery or offline. Our POP at 60 Hudson is up with the MFS/WorldCom provided backhaul circuit to our 34 Exchnage Place Jersey City location, but all Verizon circuits terminating at 60 Hudson are down/down. All MFS/WCom circuits seem to be ok so far... -Robert

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Re: Carnivore
by Steven M. Bellovin 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

In message <4.3.2.7.2.20010912172458.00b11c50(a)max.att.net.il>, Hank Nussbacher writes: > >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46747,00.html > >How many have installed it? > It's probably illegal for folks to say. See http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2511.html, section (2)(a)(ii)(B), if it's an ordinary criminal warrant, and section (b)(2)(C) of http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/1805.html for wiretaps under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. (Btw, both acts *require* the government to pay.) --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb http://www.wilyhacker.com

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Reducing power consumption in generator-supplied facilities
by dennis opacki 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

What steps are folks taking to maximize run time of emergency generator equipment and battery in NY facilities currently facing diesel supply issues? Are second halves of redundant systems being temporarily taken off line and non-essential loads being shed in a effort to stretch the time to failure? In a previous life, such precutions were referred to as "rigging for reduced electrical power" and proved quite effective. Thanks, -Dennis

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Yes it's off topic but who cares right now.
by Larry Diffey 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Let's get something clear. Although there are Muslims that believe we should all live in peace and harmony the fundamentals of the Muslim faith state that Christians and Jews should be exterminated. The believe that it's ok to lie, cheat or do whatever it takes to achieve their goals. A Los Angeles radio station (broadcasting in Spanish) reported that a Palestinian community in Palos Verdes, CA was handing out candy to their kids and partying in the streets. This doesn't meant that everyone of Middle Eastern origins is automatically suspicious. I know that many people have left their countries because of practices of their countries (they regularly imprison and execute Christians for evangelizing). Oh, I don't doubt for a second that there were co-conspirators that were born and raised in the United States and have no ethnic and religious ties to the Middle East. Basically, we need to keep our eyes open without going overboard. We need to strike a balance between national security and remaining within the bounds of the Constitution of the United States. I know I'm going to get flamed big time but oh well. When political correctness runs smack into reality, reality wins. Flame away! Larry Diffey

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RE: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
by Hire, Ejay 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Washingtonpost.com stayed online and access-able. Thank you -> Akmai. -----Original Message----- From: deeann mikula [mailto:deeann@telerama.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Charles Sprickman Cc: Avi Freedman; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote: > > > FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center. > > Sounds like on purpose. > > > Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large > > on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area). few people (in pgh, PA) that i have been talking to on irc have reported ./'d news sites everywhere. (cnn.com, yahoo.com, msnbc.com, etc.) my office has been relegated am radio, which is pretty pathetic for an ISP. pretty poor performance for a network orginally designed to faciliate communication in just such circumstances. i hope that military and federal communication is faring better than the commercial sites. > All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations > are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All i assume that in nyc or dc only. we are listening to AM radio just fine... deeann m.m. mikula director of operations telerama public access internet http://www.telerama.com 1.877.688.3200

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ABC News mentions Echelon
by Mike Lewinski 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

I just heard this from a commentator on ABC News: [US Intelligence] has the ability to "Sweep up all communication going around the world in a very broad way." There are currently "millions and millions of phone calls in this vacuum cleaner." "They will be sorting through all of the communications going through phone numbers that they have an interest in." The reporter also mentioned that the officials have to be careful not to intercept calls of US Citizens. ---------------------------------- ObOperationalAndRelevant Link: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010906/wr/mideast_usa_internet_dc_3.html ObAlsoOperationallyRelevant: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-2001303964,00.html

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Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect (fwd)
by Andy Walden 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Did you consider posting this to the list or am I just being singled out? Regards, Andy Walden -- PGP Key Available at http://www.tigerteam.net/andy/pgp On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Susan Harris wrote: > As saddened as we all are by yesterday's events, we'd prefer that you > discuss the tragedy in private email, rather than posting to the entire > list. This will allow the list to continue its focus on backbone > network operations. > > Thank you. > > Susan Harris, Ph.D. > Merit Network/Univ. of Mich. > > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Andy Walden wrote: > > > > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010911/112407_1.html > > > > andy > > -- > > PGP Key Available at http://www.tigerteam.net/andy/pgp > > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tim Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane > > > into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm > > > or deny? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tim > > > > > > > >

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RE: Analysis from a JHU CS Prof
by Youse, Chuck 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

ITV is showing some pretty good coverage in the UK. First plane strike, second plane strike from several angles, I'm not sure there's video coverage of the Pentagon collision. -----Original Message----- From: David Howe [mailto:DaveHowe@gmx.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:33 PM To: Email List: nanog Subject: Re: Analysis from a JHU CS Prof > It takes quite a bit more than you would expect. Something that you > neglect to remember is that the plane that struck the Pentagon was > initially headed directly towards the Whitehouse, then executed a > high-speed, high-bank turn around DC, lined up on the Pentagon and managed > to nose into it at mid-level. I hadn't seen *any* footage at that point - I am in the UK and my normal working day doesn't include TV sets (and of course streaming video reached saturation and vanished long before we even knew anything was happening over here) - and come to think of it, I *still* haven't seen any footage of the pentagon attack. UK coverage seems limited to the second plane strike, collapse, talking heads, rinse & repeat.....

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