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Emergency Alert System TEST - This is only a TEST
by Sean Donelan 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

FEMA will be conducting a TEST of the primary entry point system for the Emergency Alert System. The Emergency Alert System is the successor to the Emergency Broadcast System, and is frequently used for tornado warnings, hurricane warnings, flash floods warnings and so forth. It is also designed, but never in history used, for Presidential messages to the nation. The FCC Compliance Bureau has suspended all other testing of the Emergency Alert System for 30 days. However, some automated broadcast stations may send a test message without operator intervention. If the EAS is activated in your area listen carefully if it is a test or a real activation. The EAS has been accidently activated in the past, so if it is activated, avoid undue panic and listen carefully. Severe weather alerts using the EAS are continuing. Most broadcast AM/FM, television and cable systems participate in the Emergency Alert System. However, participation is voluntary. Individual stations may or may not be participate. Non-participating stations will go off the air during a national EAS activation. Once again, this is a TEST. This is only a TEST. > GREETINGS: > > THE PRIMARY ENTRY POINT SYSTEM WILL BE TESTED IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THE > TESTS WILL BE CLOSED CIRCUIT AT BEST. THERE MAY BE SOME AUDIO PASSED AS > PART OF THE TEST. IN ONE CONFIGURATION THE PEP CONFERENCE IS INVOKED, BUT > ENDECS ARE NOT ADDRESSED OR POLLED. > > DAVE PIPER AND I HAVE GONE OVER THE TEST PLAN TO CONFIRM THAT IT IS WITHIN > THE PEP SPECIFICATIONS. REST ASSURED THAT THE PEP SYSTEM WILL NOT BE > ACTIVATED WITHOUT PROPER AUTHORIZATION AND APPROVAL. > > I WILL TRY TO MAKE THE RESULTS OF THE TEST AVAILABLE VIA THIS SITE, TIME AND > WORKLOAD PERMITTING. > > I HAVE HAD A LOT OF E-MAILS ON THE TESTING, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND > INPUT. CIRCUMSTANCES ARE SUCH THAT THE TESTING MUST BE ACCOMPLISHED AT THIS > TIME. > > PUTPRUSH SENDS > > TIMOTHY L. PUTPRUSH, FEMA PEP PROJECT MANAGER

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Re: IPSEC and PAT
by Steven M. Bellovin 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

In message <912A91BC69F4D3119D1B009027D0D40C01BB45A7(a)exchange1.secure.insweb.co m>, Vandy Hamidi writes: >It is working now. I've done it with Linksys and Netopia DSL routers. >Software client on the laptop that DOES tunnel mode ESP. No AH and running >through a PAT and it works flawlessly. I just want to know how it works, >I've already determined that it does. >The point where my logic fails is where PAT relies on modifying the TCP/UDP >port numbers, an ESP packet has a standard IP header with an additional >protocol 50 ESP header. Since there is no ports to change to create a table >to keep track of which packet came from which internal client, what is used >to keep track. >Someone said something about the UDP encapsulation, but what about the >NETOPIA which doesn't do that? I repeat -- it doesn't do PAT. Some "routers" -- they're really no such thing, of course; they're NAT boxes and/or bridges -- allow one host behind them to speak IPsec. If a host emits a packet using ESP, it's tagged as *the* IPsec user; return IPsec packets are routed to that host. (Some of these boxes may use manual configuration instead or in addition.) You can't have two IPsec hosts, because there's no way to know which should receive incoming packets -- there's no relationship between inbound and outbound SPIs. As for the UDP encapsulation -- yes, the IETF's IPsec working group is moving in that direction. But it's not standardized yet, and there may be patent issues to sort through. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb http://www.wilyhacker.com

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Latest from Telehouse...
by Jeffrey Meltzer 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

The water pump on their generator is broken. They don't expect to have it fixed until tomorrow night. They are however, expecting a loaner Generator from Con Ed they they hope to have in their possession in the next few hours and setup by morning...

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Assistance Available
by rbeach＠nycap.rr.com 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

I'm teaching at a small school here in upstate NY......and I have a bunch of eager students and would like to organize some help. We can offer bodies to run wire, connect, install equipment.....contact me off-line and we can plot and scheme. Richard Beach rbeach(a)nycap.rr.com 518.265.7434

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Re: telehouse - 25 broadway
by Marshall Eubanks 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

> >>Power was restored to our equipment at 02:28 (UK) > >...and lost again at 02:45 (UK). > >Perhaps I'll keep quiet next time. Simon; I do not seem to have any multicast connectivity to the BBC since the IETF. Did you take mbgp down ? We have not had multicast connectivity to Dante since 24 bway went down, and I thought that is why we lost the BBC, but this predates this by a good margin. We found that only multicast functioned well during the tremendous load experienced on Tuesday. Do you have any multicast news feeds up ? I was deluged with requests for news after the general melt down on Tuesday, and would be glad to publicize any multicast news feeds sourced from the BBC. I do not think that this is going away in the near future. Marshall > >Simon >-- >Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 >Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 >BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart(a)bbc.co.uk >Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/ > > > Marshall Eubanks tme(a)21rst-century.com

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(fwd) Re: telehouse - 25 broadway
by Simon Lockhart 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

------- Forwarded Message Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:06:14 -0400 From: Steven Nash <snash(a)lightning.net> Subject: Re: telehouse - 25 broadway Simon, Please post to list, never emailed for posting access :-) The power to at least parts of the 5th floor was returned until about 10 minutes ago (9:47 EDT). The power as of now is as it was, completely gone as we await for the generator fix. No ETR I know of at this time. At 02:29 AM 9/14/2001 +0100, you wrote: > >well their generator overheated. no power at the facility > >Status as at 02:25 (UK) / 21:25 (New York): > >They have a Generator Tech on site at the moment, and he is working on >fixing the generator. They have also spoken to Con Ed about borrowing a >generator to get them going. Someone from Con Ed is heading down to see >what they can do. Telehouse seem pretty hopeful that they will get power >back in a few hours. > >Simon >-- >Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 >Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 >BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart(a)bbc.co.uk >Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/ - ---- Steven Nash Director of Network Engineering Lightning Internet Services, LLC http://www.lightning.net o:516.248.8400 f:516.248.8897 c:516.779.3007 e:888.935.2698 "remember, hijackers are ticketed passengers too." ------- End of Forwarded Message -- Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 (0)1737 839676 Internet Engineering Manager | Fax: +44 (0)1737 839516 BBC Internet Services | Email: Simon.Lockhart(a)bbc.co.uk Kingswood Warren,Tadworth,Surrey,UK | URL: http://support.bbc.co.uk/

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RE: IPSEC and PAT
by Vandy Hamidi 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

I see now, thanks! My logic is complete. thanks, -=Vandy=- -----Original Message----- From: Steven M. Bellovin [mailto:smb@research.att.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:44 PM To: Vandy Hamidi Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: IPSEC and PAT In message <912A91BC69F4D3119D1B009027D0D40C01BB45A7(a)exchange1.secure.insweb.co m>, Vandy Hamidi writes: >It is working now. I've done it with Linksys and Netopia DSL routers. >Software client on the laptop that DOES tunnel mode ESP. No AH and running >through a PAT and it works flawlessly. I just want to know how it works, >I've already determined that it does. >The point where my logic fails is where PAT relies on modifying the TCP/UDP >port numbers, an ESP packet has a standard IP header with an additional >protocol 50 ESP header. Since there is no ports to change to create a table >to keep track of which packet came from which internal client, what is used >to keep track. >Someone said something about the UDP encapsulation, but what about the >NETOPIA which doesn't do that? I repeat -- it doesn't do PAT. Some "routers" -- they're really no such thing, of course; they're NAT boxes and/or bridges -- allow one host behind them to speak IPsec. If a host emits a packet using ESP, it's tagged as *the* IPsec user; return IPsec packets are routed to that host. (Some of these boxes may use manual configuration instead or in addition.) You can't have two IPsec hosts, because there's no way to know which should receive incoming packets -- there's no relationship between inbound and outbound SPIs. As for the UDP encapsulation -- yes, the IETF's IPsec working group is moving in that direction. But it's not standardized yet, and there may be patent issues to sort through. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb http://www.wilyhacker.com

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telehouse - 25 broadway
by Rob Mosher 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

well their generator overheated. no power at the facility -- Rob Mosher 516 248 8400 x 121 Lead Programmer / Systems Engineer Lightning Internet Services, LLC

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WTC: pilot puzzle
by Mathias K�rber 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

This was just mentioned on a CNN chatboard: quote from the board: So Ameer Bukhari, student pilot, from Vero Beach, Florida was killed in a plane crash on 9-11-00 and Ameer Bukhari from Vero Beach, Florida hijacked a plane and crashed it into the WTC/Pentagon/rural area on 9-11-01? What is going on? The first link is to a cincinatti newspaper, scroll down and read about the plane crash. Check out the 2 articles. http://enquirer.com/editions/2000/09/13/loc_tristate_a_m_report.html http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/investigation.terrorism -- Mathias Körber |2385 Bay Road |Tel:+1-650-381.6044|Fax:+1-650-381.6055 Sr. Consult. Engr. |Redwood City |Direct Fax/Voicemail:+1-240-368.1170 Nominum, Inc. |CA 94063, USA |Private: Mobile:+65-9815.7807 mathias@nominum.com|www.nominum.com|E:mathias@koerber.org|Fax/Vmail:+1-801-650.9591

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RE: Yes it's off topic but who cares right now.
by Roeland Meyer 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

|> From: Dmitri Krioukov [mailto:dima@krioukov.net] |> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:10 PM |> "resist the cycle of violence and hate." I have been resisting responding to this wrong-headed phrase since randy first printed it. Yes, the cycle of hate must be stopped. Hate has no place in war. One must be as unemotional and rational as possible. The results of error are severe. There is no second place in combat. Winning a war is expensive, losing one costs the loser everything they have. Violence has been with us since time immemorial. It is inconvenient that we have to defend ourselves, but sevitude is inconvenient as well. However, defence is an ultimately losing strategy. Offensive violence will ultimately be required. The opposition is one of deeply held religious belief. They are willing to die for that belief. They are not insane. They are not irrational. In fact, they are coldly calculating. This incident was not an accident. It is also not isolated. It is the current culmination of a campaign that has been on-going, for decades. They want to end our civilization, period. Newt Gingrich said it well today, in the current phase, "they hope to drive us into a police-state". They will win, unless we start to get a grip on what we're really dealing with. At that point in time, we will become more like them. In a sense, that is what ultimately needs to happen. The western way of life needs to ascend to become a deeply held religious belief as well. Is there any doubt that the founders of the USofA felt that way? A large part of that feeling needs to be revived. We need to rebuild the old BlackOps forces and the ground-based intelligence networks that provided the targeting systems. We have to quit wasting resources on this pathetic war on drugs and use those assets to hunt down and destroy terrorist bases whereever we can find them. The big drug smugglers either work with us or they die, that simple. A border that's hardened against terrorists doesn't give a smuggler much room to maneuver anyway. Yes Susan, I got your note and I have been good, but I couldn't let this one pass. I leave the rest of reality advocacy to Vadim, he's a little extreme, but I agree with much of what he says.

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