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by William Warren 08 Aug '02

08 Aug '02

After many on and off list responses my signature stays....For anyone who believes that professing my faith is self-serving..then i agree. If you want to know why ask me off list. Let's focus on the task at hand and not make such a fuss over a sig. Ironically my impetus comes from an off list response and i quote," As an avid athiest and his sig has been in place for over 4 years..and is much larger than mine....(around 20+ lines) My sig is now 4 lines. William Warren Faithwalk.org -- May God Bless you and everything you touch. My "foundation" verse: Isiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

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Re: my sig
by sal_sabella＠hushmail.com 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

William Warren wrote: > the sig is removed....I am saddened that my sig was/is considered > obnoxious and self-indulging. I appreciate the explanations. Mazel Tov, William. Sal Sabella During the night Abram divided his men to attack them and he routed them, pursuing them as far as Hobah, north of Damascus. Genesis 14:15 Since the Amalekites and Canaanites are living in the valleys, turn back tomorrow and set out toward the desert along the route to the Red Sea. Numbers 14:25 Then all of you came to me and said, "Let us send men ahead to spy out the land for us and bring back a report about the route we are to take and the towns we will come to." Deuteronomy 1:22 So about three thousand men went up; but they were routed by the men of Ai Joshua 7:4 At Barak's advance, the LORD routed Sisera and all his chariots and army by the sword, and Sisera abandoned his chariot and fled on foot. Judges 4:15 While Samuel was sacrificing the burnt offering, the Philistines drew near to engage Israel in battle. But that day the Lord thundered with loud thunder against the Philistines and threw them into such a panic that they were routed before the Israelites. 1 Samuel 7:10 He shot arrows and scattered the enemies , bolts of lightning and routed them. 2 Samuel 22:15 Communicate in total privacy. Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople

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[SOT] RIP: Edsger Wybe Dijkstra (fwd)
by Alif The Terrible 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

For those who didn't yet know. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:50:41 -0500 >Grateful for most that has befallen him, has peacefully passed away, > Edsger Wybe Dijkstra, >our husband and father. > >We hold him very dear. > >The cremation will take place on > >Saterday, August 10th, 12:30 PM at >Somerenseweg 120 >Heeze >the Netherlands > >Maria C. Dijkstra Debets >Marcus J. Dijkstra >Femke E. Dijkstra >Rutger M. Dijktra >

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e-mail problems
by William Warren 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

I hope this fixes the apparent text posting problem i was having. I apologize to the list for previous posts that were garbled. William Faithwalk.org -- May God Bless you and everything you touch. My "foundation" verse: Isiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

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RE: Deaggregating for emergency purposes
by ril_phosenthal＠hushmail.com 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

I agree that the thread needs to die. Anything useful that could be said has been said, and I'm the one who said it. The end result is, the proper thing to do is make sure your upstream allows you to announce any more specifics than what you have in the IRR. They should not limit the number of announcements they hear, either. Equipment is cheap enough that upstreams should provide a dedicated 7200-series router for each customer. Filters should also apply to everone but me. I have excellent connections and clue to spare, and want everyone to trust my announcements. I'm almost a Tier 1 now, but unfortunately the old Tier 1's don't understand this. Maybe their should be an IRR object where providers can indicate their clue level. Use your best judgment in deaggregating, and it is always better if you can get it fixed by having the offending party stop announcing, or their uplinks filter. However, this can be difficult, and sometimes take in excess of five minutes. It is far better for all providers to mirror each IRR every hour so I do not have to deal with this stress. Until secure BGP exists there's no reason not to take a brute force approach to squash out occasional misconfigurations that can be so painful to deal with when they do occur. The final piece to this puzzle is an OOB messaging protocol to tell all other providers to synchronize with the IRR emergency entries. Hijacking won't be a problem if we create another registry to authenticate OOB push messages. In fact, I think we can automate the entire NOC paradigm in favor of totally automated route management. --Ril Communicate in total privacy. Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople

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Deaggregating for emergency purposes
by Phil Rosenthal 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

I am currently announcing only my aggregate routes, but I have lately thought about the possibility of someone mistakenly, or maliciously, announcing more specifics from my space. The best solution for an emergency response to that (that I can think of), is registering all of the /24's that make up my network, so if someone should announce a more-specific, I can always announce the most specific that would be accepted (assuming they don't announce the /24's too, it should be a problem avoided) Does anyone else have any other ideas on ways to quickly deal with someone else announcing your more specifics, since contacting their NOC is likely going to take a long time... --Phil

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DDoS FUD
by Omachonu Ogali 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

*sigh* What could be better to back up the Homeland Hysteria DDoS warnings, than a broken monitoring site? http://www.internettrafficreport.com/cgi-bin/tr_chartpage.pl?NorthAmerica Go Opnix Go. And no, if you actually ping the routers experiencing "packet loss", they all respond as normal. -- Omachonu Ogali missnglnk(a)informationwave.net http://www.informationwave.net

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69/8 allocated to ARIN
by Rob Thomas 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

Hi, NANOGers. IANA has allocated 69/8 to ARIN. I have updated my Bogon List and my sundry templates to reflect this change. You should modify your filters accordingly. IANA IPv4 Allocation List - http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space Bogon List - http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html Secure IOS Template - http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-ios-template.html Secure BGP Template - http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bgp-template.html Secure BIND Template - http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bind-template.html Thanks, Rob. -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty);

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DNS monitoring changes
by Rob Thomas 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

Hi, NANOGers. I have added two additional data collection points to my DNS root name server monitoring. I have also scaled the graphs (thanks, Howard!) and added a text only version. You will find it all here: http://www.cymru.com/DNS Comments and feedback are always welcome! Thanks, Rob. -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty);

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Net attacks on CNN
by Martin Hannigan 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

Barely a dent, as reported. False Alarm. I wonder if they're going to start doing this to us a lot since people get too mad when they do this to bridges, trains, and plains? Got to admit, it's an easy pawn off. Keeps 'em in the press as "active". -M Regards, -- Martin Hannigan hannigan(a)fugawi.net

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