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Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Elad Cohen 13 May '20

13 May '20

"absolute king" - I'm only trying to be elected to RIPE board, what does this strange person wants. ________________________________ From: Terrence Koeman Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:28 PM To: Elad Cohen; nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: RE: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Yes, are you having trouble understanding that? Even if we suppose a world where you are the absolute king of all RIRs plus IANA *and* majority shareholder of all commercial entities you have envisioned for your round table, it would still not work. I'd pay to see that unfold in a VR simulation though, A+ entertainment :D -- Regards, Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. Please quote relevant replies. > -----Original Message----- > From: Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:01 PM > To: Terrence Koeman <terrence(a)darkness-reigns.com>; nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > "actually be implemented, even in theory" > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Terrence Koeman > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:58 PM > To: Elad Cohen; David Hubbard; nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > > You're welcome :) And don't worry I already have posted it on social > media. > > > I don't believe there is any danger of your "solutions" being mistaken for > something that can actually be implemented, even in theory. > > > If there was we would have larger issues than just the resource drain and > time-wasting of trying to forcefully implement comically unrealistic > "solutions". None of which are abated by suppression of your "solutions" > or discussion of them. > > > In fact, if people that believe you're a genius and that your "solutions" > merit implementation exist in positions where they can actually effect an > attempt to implement them (causing certain resource drain and time- > wasting), it's best we know about it sooner rather than later. > > > -- > Regards, > Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy > Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. > > Please quote relevant replies. > Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. > > ________________________________ > > From: Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io> > Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 21:16 > To: Terrence Koeman; David Hubbard; nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > > > Thank you for publishing it, please post also in your social > accounts. > > > ________________________________ > From: NANOG on behalf of Terrence Koeman > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:54 PM > To: David Hubbard; nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > > If you thought IPv4+ was entertaining, check out his "solution" to > packet spoofing: > > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020- > April/003902.html > > > And SPAM: > > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020- > April/003778.html > > > These should be submitted as RFCs, but on April 1st next year :) > > > This could only be funnier if he wasn't dead serious and attempting > to gain power in RIPE right at this moment. Never in my life have I > encountered such an obvious and clear example of the Dunning-Kruger > effect[1]. He's entrenched right at the peak of "Mount Stupid"[2] (he > appears committed to building a tower there). > > > Ref: > > [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect > > [2] > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger > _Effect_01.svg > > -- > Regards, > Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy > Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. > > Please quote relevant replies. > Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. > ________________________________ > From: David Hubbard <dhubbard(a)dino.hostasaurus.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:19 > To: nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > > LOL the IPv4+ thing was a pretty entertaining read. You clearly > don’t have even a basic understanding of the v4 packet structure, or that > the octet display concept is simply for human benefit. IPv6 can be > implemented with ‘software updates’ too… > > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org> on behalf of Elad Cohen > <elad(a)netstyle.io> > Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 9:47 AM > To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg(a)tristatelogic.com>, "nanog(a)nanog.org" > <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > Hello Everyone, > > My apology for not providing an official response to the first "The > Ronald Show" that took place here many months ago, I was out of hospital > after full anesthesia and it took me months to get back to myself. > > What was done towards me and what being done to me by Ronald is an > intentional personal attack against me and I will explain. > > I didn't agree to provide private business documents to the illegal > anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" that they tried to extort > from me - then I found out who are the real people behind the illegal > anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - and then they started to > attack me (including here on Nanog, with false information, when I was out > of hospital and wasn't in the condition to respond to them). > > "The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous organization > according to their own words in their own following presentation: > > https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private- > Data-Violation > > They wrote in it that they receive on a regular basis - massive > amount of illegaly-obtained privacy data from their contacts in many > internet companies and internet organizations - and then they share it in > illegal way (without any warrant) with Law Enforcement Agencies - this is > the reason that Law Enforcement Agencies are doing nothing regarding the > illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". > > Ronald Guilmette is the front person of the illegal anonymous > organization "The Spamhaus Project". > > > ---- > and that said legal counsel has then > proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town, > South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish > to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block > ---- > This is a complete lie, in order to shame CoCT I will not share > their internal correspondences. Anyone interested to know more information > can email me directly. > > > ---- > "I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, > trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block" > ---- > Ronald is "assured" exactly as he is "assured" that all Dutch people > are criminals and all Colombian network oeprators are criminals and all > Chicago citizens are criminals according to his statements in the > following links: > https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX > https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ > https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz > > Ronald was called an antisemitic and a racist person here on Nanog > in the following two links, by people which are not related to me: > https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk > https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz > > > In the first "The Ronald Show" many months ago - Ronald called me in > two antisemitic names that are being used to relate to Jews in Shakespeare > literature (just like Ronald is relating to Shakespeare in > https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX ) - as part of his defamation campaign towards > me - none of you raised a voice and not only that but some Nanog > subscribers enjoyed his racism and antisemitism (without a single proof > against me) as was written here by them (with a popcorn). > > The "source" in "The Spamhaus Project" that supported and pumped > Ronald Imagination is the criminal of the anonymous twitter account: > https://twitter.com/underthebreach , that person according to his own > words in his own criminal anonymous twitter account - is a master of cyber > influence operations (meaning to influence people without a single proof) > - that person is also an employee of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge and > they are a direct competitor of a company that used the netblocks that > Ronald attacked - not only that but Ronald also attacked another Israeli- > based company called Divineworks (here in Nanog) and they are also a > direct competitor of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge. What was done here > is a cyber influence operation without a single proof because of a > business competition. > > That criminal https://twitter.com/underthebreach which is a member > of "The Spamhaus Project" and pumped Ronald Imagination - is not the only > person which is abusing the power of "The Spamhaus Project" for > commericial goals, that are many many more people and companies behind the > illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which are making > profit from it, for example: > > - Vincent Schonau from Open-Xchange (AKA "Vincenet Hanna" of "The > Spamhaus Project") that "The Spamhaus Project" is attacking the > competitors of Open-Xchange. > - Laura Atkins from WordToTheWise which is selling a Spamhaus > listing removal service (https://wordtothewise.com) > > Real identities behind "The Spamhaus Project": > > "Mike Anderson" - Michael O'Reirdan (Chairman Emeritus of W3AAWG) > and Professor Ross Anderson from Cambridge university (both known as "Mike > Anderson" of "The Spamhaus Project") > "Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen (https://www.invaluement.com/) > "Thomas Morrison" - Daniel R. Thomas > (https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/) > "Pete Dawes" - Ildiko Pete (https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/) > "Vincent Hanna" - Vincent Schonau of Open-Xchange > (https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/) > "Milly Fawcett" - Kelly Molloy of FarSight Security > (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/) > Among others. > > Companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus > Project": > ThreatSTOP > FarSight Security > Fastly > Dyn > Cymru > Abusix > Among others. > > > Regarding the article that Ronald shared, in it there is clearly > written: > > "It must be noted that Cohen is not being accused of any illegal > activity in this report." > > But it doesn't change the fact that the article was clearly written > only for Ronald to be able to post it and to proceed with the illegal > "cyber influence operation" to attack me without a single proof. The > article was written by the instruction of the "The Spamhaus Project" mob > and then Ronald made this post according to the instruction from "The > Spamhaus Project" mob. A coordinated illegal "cyber influence operation" > without a single proof. > > > Many subscribers of the Nanog list are members of the illegal > anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - Ronald Guilmette is just > their front clown - expect many of them to jump now and to defame me here > without a single proof (because this is how the illegal anonynous > organization "The Spamhaus Project" works) - and you can ask them a simple > single question - "show us a single proof" - and - "if you cannot show us > a single proof then please stop spamming the mailing list". > > Ronald at the end of his post keep spreading lies and writing: > "less than honorable intent reach for power" > "to persons with an interest only in what is best for them > personally, to the exclusion of all else" > "Democracy dies in darkness." > > When in reality I invented three new pantets for the best of the > whole Internet community and I will work to implement them if I will be > elected: > > IPv4+ that will mitigate the "IPv4 Exhaustion" problem and will add > more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses: (can be implemented with software > updates and not all internet hosts in the world will have to be updated - > home routers and home modems which are the vast majority of routing > equipment in the world - will not need to be updated and will support more > 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses with IPv4+ ) > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020- > April/003676.html > > Completely mitigating the global email spam problem in a clean and > automatic way: (and also mitigating the illegal anonymous organization > "The Spamhaus Project") > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020- > April/003778.html > > Completely mitigating spoofed ip amplification DDoS attacks and > spoofed ip traffic with is a source for criminality: > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020- > April/003902.html > > They ("The Spamhaus Project" mob) wants to keep controlling RIPE and > any other internet organizations - I want to liberate RIPE - I want to > make sure that that illegal anonymous organization that violates any thing > which is sacred in the Interent (freedom, free speech and connectivity) - > will have no footprint in RIPE. > > My full agenda can be read here: > https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may- > 2020/candidate-biographies#elad_cohen > > Ronald is afraid from me being elected because he knows that if I > will be elected I will put an end to the illgal anonymous organization > "The Spamhaus Project" which is intimidating and harassing many > organizations and many businesses worldwide. > > Kind Regards, > Elad > ________________________________ > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org> on behalf of Ronald F. > Guilmette <rfg(a)tristatelogic.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:50 PM > To: nanog(a)nanog.org <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > Many of you here may be dues-paying members of both ARIN and RIPE. > > Those of you who are may wish to be aware of the fact that there > will > be an election held on (I believe) May 14th, just a day or two from > now, for three open RIPE NCC Executive Board seats. > > I have it on good authority that one of the candidates running for > the open RIPE NCC board seats in this election has hired legal > counsel in South Africa, and that said legal counsel has then > proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town, > South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish > to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block, a > block that all historical records, including even ARIN "WhoWas" > historical records show, clearly and unambiguously, has been > legally registered to the City of Cape Town for over twenty years. > (I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, > trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block, > and that they are defending themselves, as best as they can, against > this attempt to extort them out of their rightful prooperty.) > > Where I come from, this kind of thing is called barratry, but you > be the judge. > > In any case, prior to the RIPE election, I wanted to let you all > know these facts about the candidate in question, as well as a > number of additional startling facts relating to the people who > nominated this candidate for a RIPE NCC Executive board seat, as > documented by my friend, South African journalist Jan Vermeulen: > > https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to- > african-ip-address-heist-running-for-board-position-at-european-ip- > address-organisation.html > > I could go into more detail about many of the nominators mentioned > in the above article, but I don't want to make this email too long, > so I'll await some explict request for that additional info. For > now > it should suffice to make at least some of the basic facts more > widely > available, a task which is accomplished just by sharing the above > link, > IMHO. > > > Regards, > rfg > > > P.S. I have been specifically and explicitly enjoined and > constrained > from posting here anything at all that might smack of being either > partisan or of an even vaguely "political" nature, and thus, I will > refrain from doing so. I would be remiss hoever if I did not at > least > note in passing that history records that in times such as these, > when > people of good character and good intent are, as they rightly should > be, > focused on the health and safety of themselves, their loved ones, > and > their professional collegues, and when the gaze of the world is > elsewhere, > persons of less than honorable intent reach for power and, with > unfortunate > regularity, obtain it. > > I cannot and do not ask that those of you who have been saddled with > personal or local crises during this sad time turn away from those > responsibilities to give attention to matters of Internet > governance, > however urgent those may appear at the moment. For all of us, our > first- > order duty lies nearby, with family, friends, and collegues. But > for > those of you who still have a few cycles to spare, I do ask that you > consider carefully the newfound and critical importance of this > tool, > this Internet, in the lives of so many millions, all around the > world, > and the self-evident risks of its governance being handed over, by > default > or otherwise, to persons with an interest only in what is best for > them > personally, to the exclusion of all else. > > P.P.S. I would be posting this info and the above link also to the > very relevant RIPE members-discuss mailing list, but as I am not a > due-paying member of RIPE, I have no ability to do so. Separately, > due in no small part to the candidate's own recent and manifest on- > list > transgressions on that very list, that list has recently been > switched > to a heavy-handed moderation, under which, it seems, even discussion > of > the pros and cons of candidates in the upcoming RIPE NCC Executive > Board > election are now categorized as "too controversial" and thus, > themselves, > are now entirely off-limits. > > I cannot help but be reminded of a catch-phrase that I saw > somewhere, > not too long ago: > > "Democracy dies in darkness." > -- anon >

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Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Elad Cohen 13 May '20

13 May '20

"actually be implemented, even in theory" ________________________________ From: Terrence Koeman Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:58 PM To: Elad Cohen; David Hubbard; nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election You're welcome :) And don't worry I already have posted it on social media. I don't believe there is any danger of your "solutions" being mistaken for something that can actually be implemented, even in theory. If there was we would have larger issues than just the resource drain and time-wasting of trying to forcefully implement comically unrealistic "solutions". None of which are abated by suppression of your "solutions" or discussion of them. In fact, if people that believe you're a genius and that your "solutions" merit implementation exist in positions where they can actually effect an attempt to implement them (causing certain resource drain and time-wasting), it's best we know about it sooner rather than later. -- Regards, Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. Please quote relevant replies. Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. ________________________________ From: Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 21:16 To: Terrence Koeman; David Hubbard; nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Thank you for publishing it, please post also in your social accounts. ________________________________ From: NANOG on behalf of Terrence Koeman Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:54 PM To: David Hubbard; nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election If you thought IPv4+ was entertaining, check out his "solution" to packet spoofing: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.h… And SPAM: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.h… These should be submitted as RFCs, but on April 1st next year :) This could only be funnier if he wasn't dead serious and attempting to gain power in RIPE right at this moment. Never in my life have I encountered such an obvious and clear example of the Dunning-Kruger effect[1]. He's entrenched right at the peak of "Mount Stupid"[2] (he appears committed to building a tower there). Ref: [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect [2] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_… -- Regards, Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. Please quote relevant replies. Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. ________________________________ From: David Hubbard <dhubbard(a)dino.hostasaurus.com> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:19 To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election LOL the IPv4+ thing was a pretty entertaining read. You clearly don’t have even a basic understanding of the v4 packet structure, or that the octet display concept is simply for human benefit. IPv6 can be implemented with ‘software updates’ too… From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org> on behalf of Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 9:47 AM To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg(a)tristatelogic.com>, "nanog(a)nanog.org" <nanog(a)nanog.org> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Hello Everyone, My apology for not providing an official response to the first "The Ronald Show" that took place here many months ago, I was out of hospital after full anesthesia and it took me months to get back to myself. What was done towards me and what being done to me by Ronald is an intentional personal attack against me and I will explain. I didn't agree to provide private business documents to the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" that they tried to extort from me - then I found out who are the real people behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - and then they started to attack me (including here on Nanog, with false information, when I was out of hospital and wasn't in the condition to respond to them). "The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous organization according to their own words in their own following presentation: https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Vio… They wrote in it that they receive on a regular basis - massive amount of illegaly-obtained privacy data from their contacts in many internet companies and internet organizations - and then they share it in illegal way (without any warrant) with Law Enforcement Agencies - this is the reason that Law Enforcement Agencies are doing nothing regarding the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". Ronald Guilmette is the front person of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". ---- and that said legal counsel has then proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town, South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block ---- This is a complete lie, in order to shame CoCT I will not share their internal correspondences. Anyone interested to know more information can email me directly. ---- "I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block" ---- Ronald is "assured" exactly as he is "assured" that all Dutch people are criminals and all Colombian network oeprators are criminals and all Chicago citizens are criminals according to his statements in the following links: https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz Ronald was called an antisemitic and a racist person here on Nanog in the following two links, by people which are not related to me: https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz In the first "The Ronald Show" many months ago - Ronald called me in two antisemitic names that are being used to relate to Jews in Shakespeare literature (just like Ronald is relating to Shakespeare in https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX ) - as part of his defamation campaign towards me - none of you raised a voice and not only that but some Nanog subscribers enjoyed his racism and antisemitism (without a single proof against me) as was written here by them (with a popcorn). The "source" in "The Spamhaus Project" that supported and pumped Ronald Imagination is the criminal of the anonymous twitter account: https://twitter.com/underthebreach , that person according to his own words in his own criminal anonymous twitter account - is a master of cyber influence operations (meaning to influence people without a single proof) - that person is also an employee of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge and they are a direct competitor of a company that used the netblocks that Ronald attacked - not only that but Ronald also attacked another Israeli-based company called Divineworks (here in Nanog) and they are also a direct competitor of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge. What was done here is a cyber influence operation without a single proof because of a business competition. That criminal https://twitter.com/underthebreach which is a member of "The Spamhaus Project" and pumped Ronald Imagination - is not the only person which is abusing the power of "The Spamhaus Project" for commericial goals, that are many many more people and companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which are making profit from it, for example: - Vincent Schonau from Open-Xchange (AKA "Vincenet Hanna" of "The Spamhaus Project") that "The Spamhaus Project" is attacking the competitors of Open-Xchange. - Laura Atkins from WordToTheWise which is selling a Spamhaus listing removal service (https://wordtothewise.com) Real identities behind "The Spamhaus Project": "Mike Anderson" - Michael O'Reirdan (Chairman Emeritus of W3AAWG) and Professor Ross Anderson from Cambridge university (both known as "Mike Anderson" of "The Spamhaus Project") "Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen (https://www.invaluement.com/) "Thomas Morrison" - Daniel R. Thomas (https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/) "Pete Dawes" - Ildiko Pete (https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/) "Vincent Hanna" - Vincent Schonau of Open-Xchange (https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/) "Milly Fawcett" - Kelly Molloy of FarSight Security (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/) Among others. Companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project": ThreatSTOP FarSight Security Fastly Dyn Cymru Abusix Among others. Regarding the article that Ronald shared, in it there is clearly written: "It must be noted that Cohen is not being accused of any illegal activity in this report." But it doesn't change the fact that the article was clearly written only for Ronald to be able to post it and to proceed with the illegal "cyber influence operation" to attack me without a single proof. The article was written by the instruction of the "The Spamhaus Project" mob and then Ronald made this post according to the instruction from "The Spamhaus Project" mob. A coordinated illegal "cyber influence operation" without a single proof. Many subscribers of the Nanog list are members of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - Ronald Guilmette is just their front clown - expect many of them to jump now and to defame me here without a single proof (because this is how the illegal anonynous organization "The Spamhaus Project" works) - and you can ask them a simple single question - "show us a single proof" - and - "if you cannot show us a single proof then please stop spamming the mailing list". Ronald at the end of his post keep spreading lies and writing: "less than honorable intent reach for power" "to persons with an interest only in what is best for them personally, to the exclusion of all else" "Democracy dies in darkness." When in reality I invented three new pantets for the best of the whole Internet community and I will work to implement them if I will be elected: IPv4+ that will mitigate the "IPv4 Exhaustion" problem and will add more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses: (can be implemented with software updates and not all internet hosts in the world will have to be updated - home routers and home modems which are the vast majority of routing equipment in the world - will not need to be updated and will support more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses with IPv4+ ) https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003676.h… Completely mitigating the global email spam problem in a clean and automatic way: (and also mitigating the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project") https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.h… Completely mitigating spoofed ip amplification DDoS attacks and spoofed ip traffic with is a source for criminality: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.h… They ("The Spamhaus Project" mob) wants to keep controlling RIPE and any other internet organizations - I want to liberate RIPE - I want to make sure that that illegal anonymous organization that violates any thing which is sacred in the Interent (freedom, free speech and connectivity) - will have no footprint in RIPE. My full agenda can be read here: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/candidate-bi… Ronald is afraid from me being elected because he knows that if I will be elected I will put an end to the illgal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which is intimidating and harassing many organizations and many businesses worldwide. Kind Regards, Elad ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org> on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg(a)tristatelogic.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:50 PM To: nanog(a)nanog.org <nanog(a)nanog.org> Subject: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Many of you here may be dues-paying members of both ARIN and RIPE. Those of you who are may wish to be aware of the fact that there will be an election held on (I believe) May 14th, just a day or two from now, for three open RIPE NCC Executive Board seats. I have it on good authority that one of the candidates running for the open RIPE NCC board seats in this election has hired legal counsel in South Africa, and that said legal counsel has then proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town, South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block, a block that all historical records, including even ARIN "WhoWas" historical records show, clearly and unambiguously, has been legally registered to the City of Cape Town for over twenty years. (I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block, and that they are defending themselves, as best as they can, against this attempt to extort them out of their rightful prooperty.) Where I come from, this kind of thing is called barratry, but you be the judge. In any case, prior to the RIPE election, I wanted to let you all know these facts about the candidate in question, as well as a number of additional startling facts relating to the people who nominated this candidate for a RIPE NCC Executive board seat, as documented by my friend, South African journalist Jan Vermeulen: https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to-african-ip-… I could go into more detail about many of the nominators mentioned in the above article, but I don't want to make this email too long, so I'll await some explict request for that additional info. For now it should suffice to make at least some of the basic facts more widely available, a task which is accomplished just by sharing the above link, IMHO. Regards, rfg P.S. I have been specifically and explicitly enjoined and constrained from posting here anything at all that might smack of being either partisan or of an even vaguely "political" nature, and thus, I will refrain from doing so. I would be remiss hoever if I did not at least note in passing that history records that in times such as these, when people of good character and good intent are, as they rightly should be, focused on the health and safety of themselves, their loved ones, and their professional collegues, and when the gaze of the world is elsewhere, persons of less than honorable intent reach for power and, with unfortunate regularity, obtain it. I cannot and do not ask that those of you who have been saddled with personal or local crises during this sad time turn away from those responsibilities to give attention to matters of Internet governance, however urgent those may appear at the moment. For all of us, our first- order duty lies nearby, with family, friends, and collegues. But for those of you who still have a few cycles to spare, I do ask that you consider carefully the newfound and critical importance of this tool, this Internet, in the lives of so many millions, all around the world, and the self-evident risks of its governance being handed over, by default or otherwise, to persons with an interest only in what is best for them personally, to the exclusion of all else. P.P.S. I would be posting this info and the above link also to the very relevant RIPE members-discuss mailing list, but as I am not a due-paying member of RIPE, I have no ability to do so. Separately, due in no small part to the candidate's own recent and manifest on-list transgressions on that very list, that list has recently been switched to a heavy-handed moderation, under which, it seems, even discussion of the pros and cons of candidates in the upcoming RIPE NCC Executive Board election are now categorized as "too controversial" and thus, themselves, are now entirely off-limits. I cannot help but be reminded of a catch-phrase that I saw somewhere, not too long ago: "Democracy dies in darkness." -- anon

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Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Brielle 13 May '20

13 May '20

I haven’t changed my mind, Elad. However understanding more of the background on why people have tried to look at it in the past and why it didn’t happen is important. Bills example, while it shows it is possible, runs into major issues we already deal with that have been around since the 90s. The implementation effort wouldn’t make sense these days. Funny how people who are recognized as being knowledgeable and experienced in the community are taken much more seriously, isn’t it? Sent from my iPhone >> On May 13, 2020, at 1:11 PM, Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io> wrote: > > LOL funny seeing you changing your mind by 180 degrees when someone you know in the community writing to you the exact same thing. > > Grow a backbone please. > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org> on behalf of Brielle <bruns(a)2mbit.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:57 PM > To: NANOG list <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > On 5/13/2020 12:42 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > Hi Brielle, > > > > http://bill.herrin.us/network/ipxl.html > > > > Someone said much as you did way back in 2007. It bugged me, this > > defeatism that said there was no way IPv4 could have been > > incrementally updated to support more addresses, that a greenfield > > protocol was the only path forward. So I designed an upgrade factoring > > in the need for pre- and post-upgrade stacks and networks to > > interoperate over a period of years. It took all of 4 printed pages. > > > > It's clear IPv6 is the path forward. It was clear in 2007. But don't > > for a second believe that's because IPv4 could not have been upgraded > > in place. That's a failure of imagination. > > > Interesting, thank you for the insight and some detailed breakdown. I'm > actually really glad someone with some more experience jumped in with > some actual background in this effort. > > One thing that cropped up in my mind from the late 90s and AFAIK still > goes on today - isn't it pretty well documented that more then a small > number of 'professional' firewalls have a habit of just outright > discarding/rejecting/barfing on packets with options in them that they > don't recognize? > > IE: PMTU/ECN blackhole redux. > > Of course since IPx1 requires some stack upgrades, so that point is moot > really. > > Sigh. Back to the original thought that its just easier to go IPv6 then > try to 'fix' whats already out there. > > > > -- > Brielle Bruns > The Summit Open Source Development Group > http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org

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Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Terrence Koeman 13 May '20

13 May '20

You're welcome :) And don't worry I already have posted it on social media. I don't believe there is any danger of your "solutions" being mistaken for something that can actually be implemented, even in theory. If there was we would have larger issues than just the resource drain and time-wasting of trying to forcefully implement comically unrealistic "solutions". None of which are abated by suppression of your "solutions" or discussion of them. In fact, if people that believe you're a genius and that your "solutions" merit implementation exist in positions where they can actually effect an attempt to implement them (causing certain resource drain and time-wasting), it's best we know about it sooner rather than later. -- Regards, Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. Please quote relevant replies. Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. ________________________________ From: Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 21:16 To: Terrence Koeman; David Hubbard; nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > Thank you for publishing it, please post also in your social accounts. > > > ________________________________ > From: NANOG on behalf of Terrence Koeman > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:54 PM > To: David Hubbard; nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > > If you thought IPv4+ was entertaining, check out his "solution" to packet spoofing: > > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.h… > > > And SPAM: > > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.h… > > > These should be submitted as RFCs, but on April 1st next year :) > > > This could only be funnier if he wasn't dead serious and attempting to gain power in RIPE right at this moment. Never in my life have I encountered such an obvious and clear example of the Dunning-Kruger effect[1]. He's entrenched right at the peak of "Mount Stupid"[2] (he appears committed to building a tower there). > > > Ref: > > [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect > > [2] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_… > > -- > Regards, > Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy > Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. > > Please quote relevant replies. > Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. > ________________________________ > From: David Hubbard <dhubbard(a)dino.hostasaurus.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:19 > To: nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > > LOL the IPv4+ thing was a pretty entertaining read. You clearly don’t have even a basic understanding of the v4 packet structure, or that the octet display concept is simply for human benefit. IPv6 can be implemented with ‘software updates’ too… > > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org> on behalf of Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io> > Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 9:47 AM > To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg(a)tristatelogic.com>, "nanog(a)nanog.org" <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > Hello Everyone, > > My apology for not providing an official response to the first "The Ronald Show" that took place here many months ago, I was out of hospital after full anesthesia and it took me months to get back to myself. > > What was done towards me and what being done to me by Ronald is an intentional personal attack against me and I will explain. > > I didn't agree to provide private business documents to the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" that they tried to extort from me - then I found out who are the real people behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - and then they started to attack me (including here on Nanog, with false information, when I was out of hospital and wasn't in the condition to respond to them). > > "The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous organization according to their own words in their own following presentation: > > https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Vio… > > They wrote in it that they receive on a regular basis - massive amount of illegaly-obtained privacy data from their contacts in many internet companies and internet organizations - and then they share it in illegal way (without any warrant) with Law Enforcement Agencies - this is the reason that Law Enforcement Agencies are doing nothing regarding the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". > > Ronald Guilmette is the front person of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". > > > ---- > and that said legal counsel has then > proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town, > South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish > to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block > ---- > This is a complete lie, in order to shame CoCT I will not share their internal correspondences. Anyone interested to know more information can email me directly. > > > ---- > "I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block" > ---- > Ronald is "assured" exactly as he is "assured" that all Dutch people are criminals and all Colombian network oeprators are criminals and all Chicago citizens are criminals according to his statements in the following links: > https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX > https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ > https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz > > Ronald was called an antisemitic and a racist person here on Nanog in the following two links, by people which are not related to me: > https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk > https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz > > > In the first "The Ronald Show" many months ago - Ronald called me in two antisemitic names that are being used to relate to Jews in Shakespeare literature (just like Ronald is relating to Shakespeare in https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX ) - as part of his defamation campaign towards me - none of you raised a voice and not only that but some Nanog subscribers enjoyed his racism and antisemitism (without a single proof against me) as was written here by them (with a popcorn). > > The "source" in "The Spamhaus Project" that supported and pumped Ronald Imagination is the criminal of the anonymous twitter account: https://twitter.com/underthebreach , that person according to his own words in his own criminal anonymous twitter account - is a master of cyber influence operations (meaning to influence people without a single proof) - that person is also an employee of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge and they are a direct competitor of a company that used the netblocks that Ronald attacked - not only that but Ronald also attacked another Israeli-based company called Divineworks (here in Nanog) and they are also a direct competitor of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge. What was done here is a cyber influence operation without a single proof because of a business competition. > > That criminal https://twitter.com/underthebreach which is a member of "The Spamhaus Project" and pumped Ronald Imagination - is not the only person which is abusing the power of "The Spamhaus Project" for commericial goals, that are many many more people and companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which are making profit from it, for example: > > - Vincent Schonau from Open-Xchange (AKA "Vincenet Hanna" of "The Spamhaus Project") that "The Spamhaus Project" is attacking the competitors of Open-Xchange. > - Laura Atkins from WordToTheWise which is selling a Spamhaus listing removal service (https://wordtothewise.com) > > Real identities behind "The Spamhaus Project": > > "Mike Anderson" - Michael O'Reirdan (Chairman Emeritus of W3AAWG) and Professor Ross Anderson from Cambridge university (both known as "Mike Anderson" of "The Spamhaus Project") > "Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen (https://www.invaluement.com/) > "Thomas Morrison" - Daniel R. Thomas (https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/) > "Pete Dawes" - Ildiko Pete (https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/) > "Vincent Hanna" - Vincent Schonau of Open-Xchange (https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/) > "Milly Fawcett" - Kelly Molloy of FarSight Security (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/) > Among others. > > Companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project": > ThreatSTOP > FarSight Security > Fastly > Dyn > Cymru > Abusix > Among others. > > > Regarding the article that Ronald shared, in it there is clearly written: > > "It must be noted that Cohen is not being accused of any illegal activity in this report." > > But it doesn't change the fact that the article was clearly written only for Ronald to be able to post it and to proceed with the illegal "cyber influence operation" to attack me without a single proof. The article was written by the instruction of the "The Spamhaus Project" mob and then Ronald made this post according to the instruction from "The Spamhaus Project" mob. A coordinated illegal "cyber influence operation" without a single proof. > > > Many subscribers of the Nanog list are members of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - Ronald Guilmette is just their front clown - expect many of them to jump now and to defame me here without a single proof (because this is how the illegal anonynous organization "The Spamhaus Project" works) - and you can ask them a simple single question - "show us a single proof" - and - "if you cannot show us a single proof then please stop spamming the mailing list". > > Ronald at the end of his post keep spreading lies and writing: > "less than honorable intent reach for power" > "to persons with an interest only in what is best for them personally, to the exclusion of all else" > "Democracy dies in darkness." > > When in reality I invented three new pantets for the best of the whole Internet community and I will work to implement them if I will be elected: > > IPv4+ that will mitigate the "IPv4 Exhaustion" problem and will add more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses: (can be implemented with software updates and not all internet hosts in the world will have to be updated - home routers and home modems which are the vast majority of routing equipment in the world - will not need to be updated and will support more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses with IPv4+ ) > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003676.h… > > Completely mitigating the global email spam problem in a clean and automatic way: (and also mitigating the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project") > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.h… > > Completely mitigating spoofed ip amplification DDoS attacks and spoofed ip traffic with is a source for criminality: > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.h… > > They ("The Spamhaus Project" mob) wants to keep controlling RIPE and any other internet organizations - I want to liberate RIPE - I want to make sure that that illegal anonymous organization that violates any thing which is sacred in the Interent (freedom, free speech and connectivity) - will have no footprint in RIPE. > > My full agenda can be read here: > https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/candidate-bi… > > Ronald is afraid from me being elected because he knows that if I will be elected I will put an end to the illgal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which is intimidating and harassing many organizations and many businesses worldwide. > > Kind Regards, > Elad > ________________________________ > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org> on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg(a)tristatelogic.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:50 PM > To: nanog(a)nanog.org <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > Many of you here may be dues-paying members of both ARIN and RIPE. > > Those of you who are may wish to be aware of the fact that there will > be an election held on (I believe) May 14th, just a day or two from > now, for three open RIPE NCC Executive Board seats. > > I have it on good authority that one of the candidates running for > the open RIPE NCC board seats in this election has hired legal > counsel in South Africa, and that said legal counsel has then > proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town, > South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish > to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block, a > block that all historical records, including even ARIN "WhoWas" > historical records show, clearly and unambiguously, has been > legally registered to the City of Cape Town for over twenty years. > (I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, > trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block, > and that they are defending themselves, as best as they can, against > this attempt to extort them out of their rightful prooperty.) > > Where I come from, this kind of thing is called barratry, but you > be the judge. > > In any case, prior to the RIPE election, I wanted to let you all > know these facts about the candidate in question, as well as a > number of additional startling facts relating to the people who > nominated this candidate for a RIPE NCC Executive board seat, as > documented by my friend, South African journalist Jan Vermeulen: > > https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to-african-ip-… > > I could go into more detail about many of the nominators mentioned > in the above article, but I don't want to make this email too long, > so I'll await some explict request for that additional info. For now > it should suffice to make at least some of the basic facts more widely > available, a task which is accomplished just by sharing the above link, > IMHO. > > > Regards, > rfg > > > P.S. I have been specifically and explicitly enjoined and constrained > from posting here anything at all that might smack of being either > partisan or of an even vaguely "political" nature, and thus, I will > refrain from doing so. I would be remiss hoever if I did not at least > note in passing that history records that in times such as these, when > people of good character and good intent are, as they rightly should be, > focused on the health and safety of themselves, their loved ones, and > their professional collegues, and when the gaze of the world is elsewhere, > persons of less than honorable intent reach for power and, with unfortunate > regularity, obtain it. > > I cannot and do not ask that those of you who have been saddled with > personal or local crises during this sad time turn away from those > responsibilities to give attention to matters of Internet governance, > however urgent those may appear at the moment. For all of us, our first- > order duty lies nearby, with family, friends, and collegues. But for > those of you who still have a few cycles to spare, I do ask that you > consider carefully the newfound and critical importance of this tool, > this Internet, in the lives of so many millions, all around the world, > and the self-evident risks of its governance being handed over, by default > or otherwise, to persons with an interest only in what is best for them > personally, to the exclusion of all else. > > P.P.S. I would be posting this info and the above link also to the > very relevant RIPE members-discuss mailing list, but as I am not a > due-paying member of RIPE, I have no ability to do so. Separately, > due in no small part to the candidate's own recent and manifest on-list > transgressions on that very list, that list has recently been switched > to a heavy-handed moderation, under which, it seems, even discussion of > the pros and cons of candidates in the upcoming RIPE NCC Executive Board > election are now categorized as "too controversial" and thus, themselves, > are now entirely off-limits. > > I cannot help but be reminded of a catch-phrase that I saw somewhere, > not too long ago: > > "Democracy dies in darkness." > -- anon

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Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Elad Cohen 13 May '20

13 May '20

With all due respect, I was defamed in this "professional" environment and was called with antisemitic and racist titles - for many months and without a single proof against me, when some of the subscribers of this "professional" environment even enjoyed the antisemitic phrases with a popcorn, according to their own words. ________________________________ From: Phil Smith <phillip.smith.adhami(a)gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:17 AM To: Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io> Cc: Brielle <bruns(a)2mbit.com>; NANOG list <nanog(a)nanog.org> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Yeah. On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:17 PM Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io<mailto:elad@netstyle.io>> wrote: Professional ? with Coconut Guilmette ? ________________________________ From: Phil Smith <phillip.smith.adhami(a)gmail.com<mailto:phillip.smith.adhami@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:14 AM To: Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io<mailto:elad@netstyle.io>> Cc: Brielle <bruns(a)2mbit.com<mailto:bruns@2mbit.com>>; NANOG list <nanog(a)nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Gentleman, please this is a professional environment, lets keep it that way. On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:13 PM Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io<mailto:elad@netstyle.io>> wrote: LOL funny seeing you changing your mind by 180 degrees when someone you know in the community writing to you the exact same thing. Grow a backbone please. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org<mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org>> on behalf of Brielle <bruns(a)2mbit.com<mailto:bruns@2mbit.com>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:57 PM To: NANOG list <nanog(a)nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election On 5/13/2020 12:42 PM, William Herrin wrote: > Hi Brielle, > > http://bill.herrin.us/network/ipxl.html > > Someone said much as you did way back in 2007. It bugged me, this > defeatism that said there was no way IPv4 could have been > incrementally updated to support more addresses, that a greenfield > protocol was the only path forward. So I designed an upgrade factoring > in the need for pre- and post-upgrade stacks and networks to > interoperate over a period of years. It took all of 4 printed pages. > > It's clear IPv6 is the path forward. It was clear in 2007. But don't > for a second believe that's because IPv4 could not have been upgraded > in place. That's a failure of imagination. Interesting, thank you for the insight and some detailed breakdown. I'm actually really glad someone with some more experience jumped in with some actual background in this effort. One thing that cropped up in my mind from the late 90s and AFAIK still goes on today - isn't it pretty well documented that more then a small number of 'professional' firewalls have a habit of just outright discarding/rejecting/barfing on packets with options in them that they don't recognize? IE: PMTU/ECN blackhole redux. Of course since IPx1 requires some stack upgrades, so that point is moot really. Sigh. Back to the original thought that its just easier to go IPv6 then try to 'fix' whats already out there. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org

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Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Elad Cohen 13 May '20

13 May '20

Professional ? with Coconut Guilmette ? ________________________________ From: Phil Smith <phillip.smith.adhami(a)gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:14 AM To: Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io> Cc: Brielle <bruns(a)2mbit.com>; NANOG list <nanog(a)nanog.org> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Gentleman, please this is a professional environment, lets keep it that way. On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:13 PM Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io<mailto:elad@netstyle.io>> wrote: LOL funny seeing you changing your mind by 180 degrees when someone you know in the community writing to you the exact same thing. Grow a backbone please. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org<mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org>> on behalf of Brielle <bruns(a)2mbit.com<mailto:bruns@2mbit.com>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:57 PM To: NANOG list <nanog(a)nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election On 5/13/2020 12:42 PM, William Herrin wrote: > Hi Brielle, > > http://bill.herrin.us/network/ipxl.html > > Someone said much as you did way back in 2007. It bugged me, this > defeatism that said there was no way IPv4 could have been > incrementally updated to support more addresses, that a greenfield > protocol was the only path forward. So I designed an upgrade factoring > in the need for pre- and post-upgrade stacks and networks to > interoperate over a period of years. It took all of 4 printed pages. > > It's clear IPv6 is the path forward. It was clear in 2007. But don't > for a second believe that's because IPv4 could not have been upgraded > in place. That's a failure of imagination. Interesting, thank you for the insight and some detailed breakdown. I'm actually really glad someone with some more experience jumped in with some actual background in this effort. One thing that cropped up in my mind from the late 90s and AFAIK still goes on today - isn't it pretty well documented that more then a small number of 'professional' firewalls have a habit of just outright discarding/rejecting/barfing on packets with options in them that they don't recognize? IE: PMTU/ECN blackhole redux. Of course since IPx1 requires some stack upgrades, so that point is moot really. Sigh. Back to the original thought that its just easier to go IPv6 then try to 'fix' whats already out there. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org

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Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Terrence Koeman 13 May '20

13 May '20

If you thought IPv4+ was entertaining, check out his "solution" to packet spoofing: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.h… And SPAM: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.h… These should be submitted as RFCs, but on April 1st next year :) This could only be funnier if he wasn't dead serious and attempting to gain power in RIPE right at this moment. Never in my life have I encountered such an obvious and clear example of the Dunning-Kruger effect[1]. He's entrenched right at the peak of "Mount Stupid"[2] (he appears committed to building a tower there). Ref: [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect [2] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_… -- Regards, Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. Please quote relevant replies. Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. ________________________________ From: David Hubbard <dhubbard(a)dino.hostasaurus.com> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:19 To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > LOL the IPv4+ thing was a pretty entertaining read. You clearly don’t have even a basic understanding of the v4 packet structure, or that the octet display concept is simply for human benefit. IPv6 can be implemented with ‘software updates’ too… > > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org> on behalf of Elad Cohen <elad(a)netstyle.io> > Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 9:47 AM > To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg(a)tristatelogic.com>, "nanog(a)nanog.org" <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > Hello Everyone, > > My apology for not providing an official response to the first "The Ronald Show" that took place here many months ago, I was out of hospital after full anesthesia and it took me months to get back to myself. > > What was done towards me and what being done to me by Ronald is an intentional personal attack against me and I will explain. > > I didn't agree to provide private business documents to the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" that they tried to extort from me - then I found out who are the real people behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - and then they started to attack me (including here on Nanog, with false information, when I was out of hospital and wasn't in the condition to respond to them). > > "The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous organization according to their own words in their own following presentation: > > https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Vio… > > They wrote in it that they receive on a regular basis - massive amount of illegaly-obtained privacy data from their contacts in many internet companies and internet organizations - and then they share it in illegal way (without any warrant) with Law Enforcement Agencies - this is the reason that Law Enforcement Agencies are doing nothing regarding the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". > > Ronald Guilmette is the front person of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". > > > ---- > and that said legal counsel has then > proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town, > South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish > to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block > ---- > This is a complete lie, in order to shame CoCT I will not share their internal correspondences. Anyone interested to know more information can email me directly. > > > ---- > "I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block" > ---- > Ronald is "assured" exactly as he is "assured" that all Dutch people are criminals and all Colombian network oeprators are criminals and all Chicago citizens are criminals according to his statements in the following links: > https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX > https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ > https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz > > Ronald was called an antisemitic and a racist person here on Nanog in the following two links, by people which are not related to me: > https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk > https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz > > > In the first "The Ronald Show" many months ago - Ronald called me in two antisemitic names that are being used to relate to Jews in Shakespeare literature (just like Ronald is relating to Shakespeare in https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX ) - as part of his defamation campaign towards me - none of you raised a voice and not only that but some Nanog subscribers enjoyed his racism and antisemitism (without a single proof against me) as was written here by them (with a popcorn). > > The "source" in "The Spamhaus Project" that supported and pumped Ronald Imagination is the criminal of the anonymous twitter account: https://twitter.com/underthebreach , that person according to his own words in his own criminal anonymous twitter account - is a master of cyber influence operations (meaning to influence people without a single proof) - that person is also an employee of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge and they are a direct competitor of a company that used the netblocks that Ronald attacked - not only that but Ronald also attacked another Israeli-based company called Divineworks (here in Nanog) and they are also a direct competitor of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge. What was done here is a cyber influence operation without a single proof because of a business competition. > > That criminal https://twitter.com/underthebreach which is a member of "The Spamhaus Project" and pumped Ronald Imagination - is not the only person which is abusing the power of "The Spamhaus Project" for commericial goals, that are many many more people and companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which are making profit from it, for example: > > - Vincent Schonau from Open-Xchange (AKA "Vincenet Hanna" of "The Spamhaus Project") that "The Spamhaus Project" is attacking the competitors of Open-Xchange. > - Laura Atkins from WordToTheWise which is selling a Spamhaus listing removal service (https://wordtothewise.com) > > Real identities behind "The Spamhaus Project": > > "Mike Anderson" - Michael O'Reirdan (Chairman Emeritus of W3AAWG) and Professor Ross Anderson from Cambridge university (both known as "Mike Anderson" of "The Spamhaus Project") > "Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen (https://www.invaluement.com/) > "Thomas Morrison" - Daniel R. Thomas (https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/) > "Pete Dawes" - Ildiko Pete (https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/) > "Vincent Hanna" - Vincent Schonau of Open-Xchange (https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/) > "Milly Fawcett" - Kelly Molloy of FarSight Security (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/) > Among others. > > Companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project": > ThreatSTOP > FarSight Security > Fastly > Dyn > Cymru > Abusix > Among others. > > > Regarding the article that Ronald shared, in it there is clearly written: > > "It must be noted that Cohen is not being accused of any illegal activity in this report." > > But it doesn't change the fact that the article was clearly written only for Ronald to be able to post it and to proceed with the illegal "cyber influence operation" to attack me without a single proof. The article was written by the instruction of the "The Spamhaus Project" mob and then Ronald made this post according to the instruction from "The Spamhaus Project" mob. A coordinated illegal "cyber influence operation" without a single proof. > > > Many subscribers of the Nanog list are members of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - Ronald Guilmette is just their front clown - expect many of them to jump now and to defame me here without a single proof (because this is how the illegal anonynous organization "The Spamhaus Project" works) - and you can ask them a simple single question - "show us a single proof" - and - "if you cannot show us a single proof then please stop spamming the mailing list". > > Ronald at the end of his post keep spreading lies and writing: > "less than honorable intent reach for power" > "to persons with an interest only in what is best for them personally, to the exclusion of all else" > "Democracy dies in darkness." > > When in reality I invented three new pantets for the best of the whole Internet community and I will work to implement them if I will be elected: > > IPv4+ that will mitigate the "IPv4 Exhaustion" problem and will add more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses: (can be implemented with software updates and not all internet hosts in the world will have to be updated - home routers and home modems which are the vast majority of routing equipment in the world - will not need to be updated and will support more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses with IPv4+ ) > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003676.h… > > Completely mitigating the global email spam problem in a clean and automatic way: (and also mitigating the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project") > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.h… > > Completely mitigating spoofed ip amplification DDoS attacks and spoofed ip traffic with is a source for criminality: > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.h… > > They ("The Spamhaus Project" mob) wants to keep controlling RIPE and any other internet organizations - I want to liberate RIPE - I want to make sure that that illegal anonymous organization that violates any thing which is sacred in the Interent (freedom, free speech and connectivity) - will have no footprint in RIPE. > > My full agenda can be read here: > https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/candidate-bi… > > Ronald is afraid from me being elected because he knows that if I will be elected I will put an end to the illgal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which is intimidating and harassing many organizations and many businesses worldwide. > > Kind Regards, > Elad > ________________________________ > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces(a)nanog.org> on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg(a)tristatelogic.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:50 PM > To: nanog(a)nanog.org <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > Many of you here may be dues-paying members of both ARIN and RIPE. > > Those of you who are may wish to be aware of the fact that there will > be an election held on (I believe) May 14th, just a day or two from > now, for three open RIPE NCC Executive Board seats. > > I have it on good authority that one of the candidates running for > the open RIPE NCC board seats in this election has hired legal > counsel in South Africa, and that said legal counsel has then > proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town, > South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish > to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block, a > block that all historical records, including even ARIN "WhoWas" > historical records show, clearly and unambiguously, has been > legally registered to the City of Cape Town for over twenty years. > (I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, > trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block, > and that they are defending themselves, as best as they can, against > this attempt to extort them out of their rightful prooperty.) > > Where I come from, this kind of thing is called barratry, but you > be the judge. > > In any case, prior to the RIPE election, I wanted to let you all > know these facts about the candidate in question, as well as a > number of additional startling facts relating to the people who > nominated this candidate for a RIPE NCC Executive board seat, as > documented by my friend, South African journalist Jan Vermeulen: > > https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to-african-ip-… > > I could go into more detail about many of the nominators mentioned > in the above article, but I don't want to make this email too long, > so I'll await some explict request for that additional info. For now > it should suffice to make at least some of the basic facts more widely > available, a task which is accomplished just by sharing the above link, > IMHO. > > > Regards, > rfg > > > P.S. I have been specifically and explicitly enjoined and constrained > from posting here anything at all that might smack of being either > partisan or of an even vaguely "political" nature, and thus, I will > refrain from doing so. I would be remiss hoever if I did not at least > note in passing that history records that in times such as these, when > people of good character and good intent are, as they rightly should be, > focused on the health and safety of themselves, their loved ones, and > their professional collegues, and when the gaze of the world is elsewhere, > persons of less than honorable intent reach for power and, with unfortunate > regularity, obtain it. > > I cannot and do not ask that those of you who have been saddled with > personal or local crises during this sad time turn away from those > responsibilities to give attention to matters of Internet governance, > however urgent those may appear at the moment. For all of us, our first- > order duty lies nearby, with family, friends, and collegues. But for > those of you who still have a few cycles to spare, I do ask that you > consider carefully the newfound and critical importance of this tool, > this Internet, in the lives of so many millions, all around the world, > and the self-evident risks of its governance being handed over, by default > or otherwise, to persons with an interest only in what is best for them > personally, to the exclusion of all else. > > P.P.S. I would be posting this info and the above link also to the > very relevant RIPE members-discuss mailing list, but as I am not a > due-paying member of RIPE, I have no ability to do so. Separately, > due in no small part to the candidate's own recent and manifest on-list > transgressions on that very list, that list has recently been switched > to a heavy-handed moderation, under which, it seems, even discussion of > the pros and cons of candidates in the upcoming RIPE NCC Executive Board > election are now categorized as "too controversial" and thus, themselves, > are now entirely off-limits. > > I cannot help but be reminded of a catch-phrase that I saw somewhere, > not too long ago: > > "Democracy dies in darkness." > -- anon

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Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
by Terrence Koeman 13 May '20

13 May '20

Thanks Ronald. I have forwarded your message to the members-discuss(a)ripe.net list, as I believe it's on-topic. Let's see if the moderators agree :) -- Regards, Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. Please quote relevant replies. Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. ________________________________ From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg(a)tristatelogic.com> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 11:51 To: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > Many of you here may be dues-paying members of both ARIN and RIPE. > > Those of you who are may wish to be aware of the fact that there will > be an election held on (I believe) May 14th, just a day or two from > now, for three open RIPE NCC Executive Board seats. > > I have it on good authority that one of the candidates running for > the open RIPE NCC board seats in this election has hired legal > counsel in South Africa, and that said legal counsel has then > proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town, > South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish > to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block, a > block that all historical records, including even ARIN "WhoWas" > historical records show, clearly and unambiguously, has been > legally registered to the City of Cape Town for over twenty years. > (I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, > trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block, > and that they are defending themselves, as best as they can, against > this attempt to extort them out of their rightful prooperty.) > > Where I come from, this kind of thing is called barratry, but you > be the judge. > > In any case, prior to the RIPE election, I wanted to let you all > know these facts about the candidate in question, as well as a > number of additional startling facts relating to the people who > nominated this candidate for a RIPE NCC Executive board seat, as > documented by my friend, South African journalist Jan Vermeulen: > > https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to-african-ip-… > > I could go into more detail about many of the nominators mentioned > in the above article, but I don't want to make this email too long, > so I'll await some explict request for that additional info. For now > it should suffice to make at least some of the basic facts more widely > available, a task which is accomplished just by sharing the above link, > IMHO. > > > Regards, > rfg > > > P.S. I have been specifically and explicitly enjoined and constrained > from posting here anything at all that might smack of being either > partisan or of an even vaguely "political" nature, and thus, I will > refrain from doing so. I would be remiss hoever if I did not at least > note in passing that history records that in times such as these, when > people of good character and good intent are, as they rightly should be, > focused on the health and safety of themselves, their loved ones, and > their professional collegues, and when the gaze of the world is elsewhere, > persons of less than honorable intent reach for power and, with unfortunate > regularity, obtain it. > > I cannot and do not ask that those of you who have been saddled with > personal or local crises during this sad time turn away from those > responsibilities to give attention to matters of Internet governance, > however urgent those may appear at the moment. For all of us, our first- > order duty lies nearby, with family, friends, and collegues. But for > those of you who still have a few cycles to spare, I do ask that you > consider carefully the newfound and critical importance of this tool, > this Internet, in the lives of so many millions, all around the world, > and the self-evident risks of its governance being handed over, by default > or otherwise, to persons with an interest only in what is best for them > personally, to the exclusion of all else. > > P.P.S. I would be posting this info and the above link also to the > very relevant RIPE members-discuss mailing list, but as I am not a > due-paying member of RIPE, I have no ability to do so. Separately, > due in no small part to the candidate's own recent and manifest on-list > transgressions on that very list, that list has recently been switched > to a heavy-handed moderation, under which, it seems, even discussion of > the pros and cons of candidates in the upcoming RIPE NCC Executive Board > election are now categorized as "too controversial" and thus, themselves, > are now entirely off-limits. > > I cannot help but be reminded of a catch-phrase that I saw somewhere, > not too long ago: > > "Democracy dies in darkness." > -- anon

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Looking for a neteng contact at AS60725 O3B (SES)
by Eric Kuhnke 13 May '20

13 May '20

I'm looking to get in touch with somebody in network engineering at AS60725. Please contact me off-list.

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Comcast Late Night Lurkers? (Chicago Problems)
by Nick Garrett 13 May '20

13 May '20

Any Comcast engineers lurking on here? Have noticed a significant issue with endpoint connectivity into our private clouds starting around 19:30 central, continuing on to now. Have also seen some issues with devices accessing via our customers' WAN connections through AT&T, suspecting some sort of transit fun. Tried reporting via SMB Coax and residential--- not even sure why I tried. Normally, this amount of flap is *not *an issue for us but it's causing some abnormal adverse effects which *is *an issue for us. 😊 We're seeing this on customers' networks that we know are on SMB HFC, ENS, Metro-E, pretty good spread. As well as some sprinkling of AT&T/ICN (Illinois Century Network). I am hoping it is a bad peer that can be told to stop or routed-out. Any help or investigating would be appreciated.

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