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RE: FW: About your using mailer
by Kris Foster 28 Mar '03

28 Mar '03

> In the beginning, there was The Word. > And The Word was Content-type: text/plain My bad.. Kris

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RE: FW: About your using mailer
by Kris Foster 28 Mar '03

28 Mar '03

> Is anyone else getting this junk regarding the list? And can > we put a stop > to it? Got the same message. I think Miyoko's fight should be with the vendors, not the poor people who are subjected to the whims of an IS department. Kris > -----Original Message----- > From: Miyoko Shioda [mailto:wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp] > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:30 AM > To: Mike Damm > Subject: Re: About your using mailer > > > dear Mike Damm, > > Sorry, I am talking about NANOG mailing list. > Please please change your MUA in mainling list... > > Regards, > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:28:17 -0800 > Mike Damm <MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com> wrote: > > > What mailing list are you talking about? > > > > --- > > Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development > > V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked(a)irwinresearch.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Miyoko Shioda [mailto:wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp] > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:16 PM > > To: MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com > > Subject: About your using mailer > > > > > > Hi, > > I read your messages in mailing list. > > > > Your using mailer(MUA) does not seems to support In-Reply-To nor > References > > field. These field is defined in RFC-2822. > > If these field does not be outputted when you reply, tree > construction > > will be break every time you post the messages to mailing list. > > It is inconvenient for the others. > > > > Please please change your mailer for the public good, > > at least when you post to mailing list. > > > > Today almost mailers support these field(at least In-Reply-To) > > except for the following mailers. > > > > MSN hotmail > > Exchange Server <= 2000 (Exchange Server 2003 will support > In-Reply-To.) > > Lotus Notes < 6.0 > > MIME-Tools > > AOL mailer > > dtmail > > Novell GroupWise > > foxmail > > > > regards, > > > > -- > > Miyoko Shioda > > wjxv4y(a)k3.dion.ne.jp > > > > -- > Miyoko Shioda <wjxv4y(a)k3.dion.ne.jp> > > >

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Re: [OT: FW: About your using mailer]
by Dave Israel 28 Mar '03

28 Mar '03

I got one, and my mailer is compliant. Maybe he's confirming e-mail addresses for spam? On 3/28/2003 at 13:01:00 -0500, Joshua Smith said: > > i got one too - i was going to ask if anyone else minded that my > mua was fully rfc 2822 compliant (before telling usa.net that they > have to rewrite their webmail app)... > > i like how the examples cited are crap-html/mime oriented (msn, > exchange, and aol?) > > Mike Damm <MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com> wrote: > > > > > > Is anyone else getting this junk regarding the list? And can we put a stop > > to it? > > > > Granted in a perfect world everyone runs software throughout the entire > > enterprise that is on the bleeding edge of the latest proposed standards, > > but some of us only have so big of a budget. > > > > --- > > Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development > > V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked(a)irwinresearch.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Miyoko Shioda [mailto:wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp] > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:30 AM > > To: Mike Damm > > Subject: Re: About your using mailer > > > > > > dear Mike Damm, > > > > Sorry, I am talking about NANOG mailing list. > > Please please change your MUA in mainling list... > > > > Regards, > > > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:28:17 -0800 > > Mike Damm <MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com> wrote: > > > > > What mailing list are you talking about? > > > > > > --- > > > Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development > > > V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked(a)irwinresearch.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Miyoko Shioda [mailto:wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:16 PM > > > To: MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com > > > Subject: About your using mailer > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > I read your messages in mailing list. > > > > > > Your using mailer(MUA) does not seems to support In-Reply-To nor > > References > > > field. These field is defined in RFC-2822. > > > If these field does not be outputted when you reply, tree construction > > > will be break every time you post the messages to mailing list. > > > It is inconvenient for the others. > > > > > > Please please change your mailer for the public good, > > > at least when you post to mailing list. > > > > > > Today almost mailers support these field(at least In-Reply-To) > > > except for the following mailers. > > > > > > MSN hotmail > > > Exchange Server <= 2000 (Exchange Server 2003 will support In-Reply-To.) > > > Lotus Notes < 6.0 > > > MIME-Tools > > > AOL mailer > > > dtmail > > > Novell GroupWise > > > foxmail > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > -- > > > Miyoko Shioda > > > wjxv4y(a)k3.dion.ne.jp > > > > > > > -- > > Miyoko Shioda <wjxv4y(a)k3.dion.ne.jp> > > > > > > "Walk with me through the Universe, > And along the way see how all of us are Connected. > Feast the eyes of your Soul, > On the Love that abounds. > In all places at once, seemingly endless, > Like your own existence." > - Stephen Hawking - -- Dave Israel Senior Manager, Backbone Eng Allegiance Telecom

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Re: [OT: FW: About your using mailer]
by Joshua Smith 28 Mar '03

28 Mar '03

i got one too - i was going to ask if anyone else minded that my mua was fully rfc 2822 compliant (before telling usa.net that they have to rewrite their webmail app)... i like how the examples cited are crap-html/mime oriented (msn, exchange, and aol?) Mike Damm <MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com> wrote: > > > Is anyone else getting this junk regarding the list? And can we put a stop > to it? > > Granted in a perfect world everyone runs software throughout the entire > enterprise that is on the bleeding edge of the latest proposed standards, > but some of us only have so big of a budget. > > --- > Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development > V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked(a)irwinresearch.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Miyoko Shioda [mailto:wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp] > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:30 AM > To: Mike Damm > Subject: Re: About your using mailer > > > dear Mike Damm, > > Sorry, I am talking about NANOG mailing list. > Please please change your MUA in mainling list... > > Regards, > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:28:17 -0800 > Mike Damm <MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com> wrote: > > > What mailing list are you talking about? > > > > --- > > Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development > > V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked(a)irwinresearch.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Miyoko Shioda [mailto:wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp] > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:16 PM > > To: MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com > > Subject: About your using mailer > > > > > > Hi, > > I read your messages in mailing list. > > > > Your using mailer(MUA) does not seems to support In-Reply-To nor > References > > field. These field is defined in RFC-2822. > > If these field does not be outputted when you reply, tree construction > > will be break every time you post the messages to mailing list. > > It is inconvenient for the others. > > > > Please please change your mailer for the public good, > > at least when you post to mailing list. > > > > Today almost mailers support these field(at least In-Reply-To) > > except for the following mailers. > > > > MSN hotmail > > Exchange Server <= 2000 (Exchange Server 2003 will support In-Reply-To.) > > Lotus Notes < 6.0 > > MIME-Tools > > AOL mailer > > dtmail > > Novell GroupWise > > foxmail > > > > regards, > > > > -- > > Miyoko Shioda > > wjxv4y(a)k3.dion.ne.jp > > > > -- > Miyoko Shioda <wjxv4y(a)k3.dion.ne.jp> > "Walk with me through the Universe, And along the way see how all of us are Connected. Feast the eyes of your Soul, On the Love that abounds. In all places at once, seemingly endless, Like your own existence." - Stephen Hawking -

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OT: FW: About your using mailer
by Mike Damm 28 Mar '03

28 Mar '03

Is anyone else getting this junk regarding the list? And can we put a stop to it? Granted in a perfect world everyone runs software throughout the entire enterprise that is on the bleeding edge of the latest proposed standards, but some of us only have so big of a budget. --- Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked(a)irwinresearch.com -----Original Message----- From: Miyoko Shioda [mailto:wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:30 AM To: Mike Damm Subject: Re: About your using mailer dear Mike Damm, Sorry, I am talking about NANOG mailing list. Please please change your MUA in mainling list... Regards, On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:28:17 -0800 Mike Damm <MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com> wrote: > What mailing list are you talking about? > > --- > Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development > V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked(a)irwinresearch.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Miyoko Shioda [mailto:wjxv4y@k3.dion.ne.jp] > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:16 PM > To: MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com > Subject: About your using mailer > > > Hi, > I read your messages in mailing list. > > Your using mailer(MUA) does not seems to support In-Reply-To nor References > field. These field is defined in RFC-2822. > If these field does not be outputted when you reply, tree construction > will be break every time you post the messages to mailing list. > It is inconvenient for the others. > > Please please change your mailer for the public good, > at least when you post to mailing list. > > Today almost mailers support these field(at least In-Reply-To) > except for the following mailers. > > MSN hotmail > Exchange Server <= 2000 (Exchange Server 2003 will support In-Reply-To.) > Lotus Notes < 6.0 > MIME-Tools > AOL mailer > dtmail > Novell GroupWise > foxmail > > regards, > > -- > Miyoko Shioda > wjxv4y(a)k3.dion.ne.jp > -- Miyoko Shioda <wjxv4y(a)k3.dion.ne.jp>

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Verizon mail server on MAPS RSS list
by Josh Gentry 28 Mar '03

28 Mar '03

We've got customers trying to receive email from people using Verizon for Internet acess, and we are rejecting that mail because out013pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.44] is on the MAPS RSS list. Can't pull up the MAPS RSS website at the moment to check why. Anyone know contact info for Verizon for this kind of issue? Thanks. Josh -- Josh Gentry (Call me Gentry.) help(a)swcp.com * jgentry(a)swcp.com * 505-232-7992

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Re: is this true or... ?
by Alfredo Sola 28 Mar '03

28 Mar '03

> >http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8595 While they are at it, it would be nice if a carefully applied lobbying could transform that into something that made more sense security-wise. After dealing with one too many DDoS attacks, I would gladly mantain storage of a few weeks worth of netflow data for security uses if everybody was (a) required to do the same, and (b) required to assist when an attack is detected. Hey, one can be optimistic from time to time. Before flames begin, let me say that I hold no hope of something remotely similar to the above coming true in the foreseeable future. Nor do I like the idea of the Internet being ruled by laws, which in addition are written by people without a clue, in the first place. -- Alfredo Sola, after receiving an e-mail from an administrator of a smurf amplifier claiming that we, the attacked party, are actually the attackers.

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Fw: Freedom to Tinker: Use a Firewall, Go to Jail
by Peter Galbavy 28 Mar '03

28 Mar '03

>From another mailing list; Not being from the US, I have very little idea if this is a reality based simply on this story... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Feustel" <dfeustel(a)mindspring.com> To: <misc(a)openbsd.org> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Freedom to Tinker: Use a Firewall, Go to Jail > Use a Firewall, Go to Jail > > The states of Massachusetts and Texas are preparing to > consider bills that apparently are intended to extend the > national Digital Millennium Copyright Act. (TX bill; MA bill) > The bills are obviously related to each other somehow, > since they are textually similar. > > Here is one example of the far-reaching harmful effects of > these bills. Both bills would flatly ban the possession, sale, > or use of technologies that "conceal from a communication > service provider ... the existence or place of origin or > destination of any communication". Your ISP is a communcation > service provider, so anything that concealed the origin or > destination of any communication from your ISP would be > illegal -- with no exceptions. > > http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000336.html > >

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Re: DNS dDos Attack!
by Dan Armstrong 28 Mar '03

28 Mar '03

Sorry, I lied. We are running 8.34Release What I cannot figure out is why *our* name server is sending out ICMP unreachables. The incoming dns queries are coming from random destinations.... I have blocked icmp 3 incoming from that DMZ as not to overwhelm the CEF in any other routers, but whoever is doing this has this name server at it's knees. Dan. Eric Whitehill wrote: > Dan: > > Can you updated your version of BIND and install some acls? > > -Eric > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Dan Armstrong wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:20:20 -0500 > > From: Dan Armstrong <dan(a)beanfield.com> > > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > > Subject: DNS dDos Attack! > > > > > > I am sorry if this has come up before, but it seems that one of our name > > > > servers is under some sort of dDos attack. It seems to be receiving > > millions of queries form spoofed IPs, and it is spending all of it's > > time sending back icmp unreachables. > > > > It is running bind 4.31 under BSD 4.62STABLE > > > > Help! > > > > Thanks, > > Dan. > > > >

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DNS dDos Attack!
by Dan Armstrong 28 Mar '03

28 Mar '03

I am sorry if this has come up before, but it seems that one of our name servers is under some sort of dDos attack. It seems to be receiving millions of queries form spoofed IPs, and it is spending all of it's time sending back icmp unreachables. It is running bind 4.31 under BSD 4.62STABLE Help! Thanks, Dan.

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