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comments on addressing futures....
by bmanning＠karoshi.com 23 Sep '03

23 Sep '03

this from the ARIN-PPL mailing list... it deserves broad consideration, even from NANOG :) ------------------------------------------------------- william(a)elan.com writes: Since ARIN has been sending new proposals today, they seem to have forgotten the most important one of all, that applies to all RIRs and how they deal with ICANN. The info is at http://lacnic.net/sp/draft-9-22.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The four RIRs (Regional Internet Registries): APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, and RIPE NCC have jointly worked on the preparation of a proposal concerning the liaison among the RIRs as well as the structure through which the RIRs and their communities take part in ICANN. As a consequence, three documents have been prepared: - Proposal to execute an agreement between the four RIRs in order to create the Number Resource Organization (NRO). This organization will represent the interests of the IP addresses community before the national, international or public entities. - Proposal of a Memorandum of Understanding between the RIRs, to act through the NRO and the ICANN in relation to the ASO (Address Supporting Organization), the ICANN section committed to the Internet Number Resources issues. The ASO was created through a previous Memorandum of Understanding, signed in 1999. The current proposal would replace the previous Memorandum, modifying the present ASO structure. - Proposal of an Open Letter from the RIRs to the ICANN relative to the previous items. The RIRs call for public comments from the community members in relation to these documents. As the comments will be jointly organized, they will be officially managed in English.

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Go Daddy vs Verisign over Site Finder
by Andy Ellifson 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

Go Daddy is at it again. They filed suit against Verisign accusing Verisign of misuse of their registry position with their Site Finder service. Let's hope they win this lawsuit too! https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/pressreleases/NR-GoDaddysuesVerisign9-22.pdf…

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.ORG problems this evening
by Todd Vierling 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

tld[12].ultradns.net, the NS for .ORG, was completely unreachable for about an hour or two this evening, timing out on all DNS queries. Anyone else see similar? (The hosts are unpingable and untracerouteable, so I had to use DNS queries to determine when they were back up.) It makes me wonder how UltraDNS got a contract to manage the domain on all of two nameservers hosted on the same subnet, given that they were supposed to have deployed "geographically diverse" (or something like that) servers. But then, we know ICANN smokes the crack liberally at times.... <sigh> -- -- Todd Vierling <tv(a)duh.org> <tv(a)pobox.com>

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ATTBI/Comcast issue
by Tony Varriale 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

If someone on this list is from ATTBI/Comcast, could you please contact me offline regarding a chronic issue present since about March/April? I've had multiple tickets open and spoke with 2 "supervisors", and no one will address/take responsibility of the problem. Thanks, Tony

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Verisign Responds
by David Lesher 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

>Looks like the lawsuits are going to be the ones to settle this >dispute...anyone think there's a chance of ICANN pulling .COM and .NET >from Verisign due to breach of contract? I think it's highly unlikely. ...about as likely as Mary Carey winning the Califunny recall. VeriSlime has big lobbying muscle here Inside the Beltway. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz(a)nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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Operations notification manager software
by Pete Kruckenberg 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

My apologies in advance for asking a rather "low-brow" question. What software is available/recommended for NOC contact management? I assume that big networks use CRM type stuff (probably heavily customized), integrated into the OSS and other operational systems. What about for the rest of the world? Is there any decent (free, proprietary, or home-grown) software that can do contact management justice (either as a complete package or integration of multiple packages), supporting features like: - contact information refresh (regularly verify contact information via electronic or triggered human interaction, dealing with failed notification attempts)? - complex notification (ie per-event customized notification by affected device/region/service, notification to customer-selected method based on type and urgency of notice) - customer-friendly subscription management (including multiple notification methods) and notification archiving - notification SLA's (ie re-sending multiple timed notices when required, tracking notifications for auditing, etc) - efficiently managing multiple conduits for notification (email, alpha pager, text-to-voice/scripted call center, RSS feed, Web archives/posting) - enforcing consistency in notifications (ie form-/ rule-based notification creation and validation, notification review/authorization prior to distribution) - handling feedback from notifications (handling customer responses, tracking viewing and/or reading of notifications, measuring effectiveness of notifications) - other important features? I know that some of these features are built into products like HPOV. Do they fill the needs of large network operators? What software do you use to manage customer notifications? Thanks. Pete.

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RE: When is Verisign's registry contract up for renewal
by Mike Damm 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

The webpage was very 'thrown together' so we could get to work on actually getting the servers built. Our policy is to provide clean versions of the COM and NET zones. Minus all of VeriSign's hackery. If you register a .com domain, it will appear in our zone, if you don't renew one, it disappears. We plan to mimic exactly how a responsible TLD operator should work. We don't want to change the world, we don't want to expand the number of TLDs, and we really don't even want to run a root. The root we are (temporarily) running is just a hack to allow people to access our gTLD zones, everything else is pointed to *.root-servers.net. At this point, nothing really works. But we hope to have it operational within the next week. If you don't like it, don't use it. This is the last post about this you'll see on NANOG from me about it. -Mike -----Original Message----- From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:bortzmeyer@nic.fr] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 4:44 AM To: Mike Damm Cc: 'Jared Mauch '; 'nanog(a)merit.edu ' Subject: Re: When is Verisign's registry contract up for renewal On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 07:53:19AM -0700, Mike Damm <MikeD(a)irwinresearch.com> wrote a message of 63 lines which said: > This sort of not-for-profit is exactly what I proposed when the VeriSign > discussion started. A non-technical response to a non-technical problem. > Since my inital email, I've recruited a few other NANOG folks and put up a > website: www.alt-servers.org. In what way your proposal is different from the other "alternative roots" (such as ORSC, www.open-rsc.org)? All of them are facing the same problem: we don't like ICANN's policies, OK, but what are ours? Do we redelegate .md? Do we give .com to someone else? To who? Do we delegate .god to the jerk that just asked? I'm not aware of any serious policy work from any of the alternative roots: they just claim that they work very hard but they never explain the details. You claim to have working servers already (the easiest part) but you say nothing about your policy...

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Providers removing blocks on port 135?
by Adam Hall 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

Anyone know anything about prorviders removing ACLs from their routers to allow ports 135/445/4444 back into their network? Curious only because customers are calling in saying that Verizon, Cox, Bellsouth, and DSL.net are doing so and seem to have a big problem with the fact that we're hesitent follow their lead. Adam

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Need help with Ex-Pat project
by Douglas S. Peeples 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

I am helping on several areas for the design, testing, and deployment of a Metro Ethernet network (based on MPLS) in the Pacific rim. If you or if you know anyone interested in working over seas for a year or so drop me an email with contact information. Cheers, Doug Peeples

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[Administrativia] Posting rules: are messages silently dropped?
by Stephane Bortzmeyer 22 Sep '03

22 Sep '03

Messages I send from an email address which is not subscribed to nanog-post are apparently silently dropped. I do not receive a bounce (like it is typically the case when a list is closed) but, according to the archives, they are not distributed either (which may be good for the S/N ratio but I digress). Isn't it too harsh? <URL:http://www.nanog.org/email.html> explains how to post but does not mention what happens to posts from non-subscribers.

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