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Re: [Activity logging & archiving tool]
by joshua sahala 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

"Priyantha" <priyantha(a)wightman.ca> wrote: > > In my company, there are several technical guys make changes to the > existing network and it's very difficult to keep track of what we did > when, etc. i feel your pain - except when it was happening, they weren't as technical as they thought they were... > I'm looking for a simple tool, in which each and every one has to > manually record whatever (s)he has done or any incident (s)he observed > so that the tool archives that data someway. Later, in case if someone > needs, (s)he should be able to search for that archive by date, by > person, by a random phrase, etc. rancid (http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid) and cvs-web (http://stud.fh-heilbronn.de/~zeller/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/) rancid does nice proactive checking of device configs, and cvs-web is a pretty front end to look through change history for tracking: request tracker (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) - it is a ticketing system, but you could probably customize it to fit your needs netoffice (http://sourceforge.net/projects/netoffice/) - haven't used it personally, but it looks like it might work too track+ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/trackplus/) - same as netoffice of course, nothing will work unless everyone uses it, so you have to have clear, concise policies for change management, and then enforce them. hth /joshua > Any help in this regard is appreciated, > > Priyantha Pushpa Kumara > --------------------------------------- > Manager - Data Services > Wightman Internet Ltd. > Clifford, ON > N0G 1M0 > Fax: 519-327-8010 > > > "Walk with me through the Universe, And along the way see how all of us are Connected. Feast the eyes of your Soul, On the Love that abounds. In all places at once, seemingly endless, Like your own existence." - Stephen Hawking -

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Re: TAT 14 failure
by garrett.allen＠comcast.net 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

clarifying the last post, seeing 100ms under the pond to our points of presence in bourne end and beeston (uk). thanks. > > I saw that link when I googled for TAT-14. I was looking more for a "see, I > told you so" link that I can forward to management that provides proof that > this is why our UK office is down...if you know what I mean. > > Here's an interesting explanation of undersea cabling: > http://davidw.home.cern.ch/davidw/public/SubCables.html > > > -Jack > > > --- Jared Mauch <jared(a)puck.nether.net> wrote: > > > > This is a basic map of the fiber path for those > > that haven't found one yet. > > > > http://www.kddiscs.co.jp/e/business/02_15.html > > > > - jared > > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 10:32:16AM -0800, Jack McCarthy wrote: > > > > > > Anyone have additional info regarding this outage? Links? Besides > > tat-14.com > > > - it seems to be down or just flooded with requests. > > > > > > > > > -Jack > > > > > > > > > --- jmalcolm(a)uraeus.com wrote: > > > > > > > > The northern leg of TAT14 seems to have just taken an outage about an > > > > hour ago. As the southern leg was already down due to other faults, > > > > this will probably be an exciting time for many providers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared(a)puck.nether.net > > clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine. > > > > > > >

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RE: MPLS billing model
by St. Clair, James 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

I'd appreciate knowing this as well - thanks in advance Jim -----Original Message----- From: Dan Lockwood To: Nanog List (E-mail) Sent: 11/25/2003 2:04 PM Subject: MPLS billing model For those of you who sell MPLS VPNs, what components of the service do you charge for and how do you do the billing? E.g. per port + traffic, per site + traffic, etc. I am not interested in buying MPLS services just how the billing happens. Thanks! Dan

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Happy Holidays - Id-al-Fitr / Ramadan Mubarak - Iyi Bayramlar
by Mehmet Akcin 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

!!!!!!!!!EID / RAMADAN / ID-AL-FITR MUBARAK / Ramazan Bayraminiz Mubarek Olsun!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish happy and peaceful holidays to the NANOG'ers either they participate Islam as their religious or other religiouses. In fact this is a muslim holiday (for those who don't know.) Hope the world will be more peaceful in the further days, months, years. (Basic information for those who don't know what ramadan is. and information about the holiday Muslims celebrate today) What is Ramadan? Ramadan is the ninth month of the Muslim calendar. The Month of Ramadan is also when it is believed the Holy Quran "was sent down from heaven, a guidance unto men, a declaration of direction, and a means of Salvation" It is during this month that Muslims fast. It is called the Fast of Ramadan and lasts the entire month. Ramadan is a time when Muslims concentrate on their faith and spend less time on the concerns of their everyday lives. It is a time of worship and contemplation During the Fast of Ramadan strict restraints are placed on the daily lives of Muslims. They are not allowed to eat or drink during the daylight hours. Smoking and sexual relations are also forbidden during fasting. At the end of the day the fast is broken with prayer and a meal called the iftar. In the evening following the iftar it is customary for Muslims to go out visiting family and friends. The fast is resumed the next morning According to the Holy Quran: One may eat and drink at any time during the night "until you can plainly distinguish a white thread from a black thread by the daylight: then keep the fast until night" The good that is acquired through the fast can be destroyed by five things - the telling of a lie slander denouncing someone behind his back a false oath greed or covetousness These are considered offensive at all times, but are most offensive during the Fast of Ramadan During Ramadan, it is common for Muslims to go to the Masjid (Mosque) and spend several hours praying and studying the Quran. In addition to the five daily prayers, during Ramadan Muslims recite a special prayer called the Taraweeh prayer (Night Prayer). The length of this prayer is usually 2-3 times as long as the daily prayers. Some Muslims spend the entire night in prayer On the evening of the 27th day of the month, Muslims celebrate the Laylat-al-Qadr (the Night of Power). It is believed that on this night Muhammad first received the revelation of the Holy Quran. And according to the Quran, this is when God determines the course of the world for the following year When the fast ends (the first day of the month of Shawwal) it is celebrated for three days in a holiday called Id-al-Fitr (the Feast of Fast Breaking). Gifts are exchanged. Friends and family gather to pray in congregation and for large meals. In some cities fairs are held to celebrate the end of the Fast of Ramadan. (that's what is today) Mehmet Akcin Netpresence Inc.

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68.0.0.0/7 from 3303
by william＠elan.net 25 Nov '03

25 Nov '03

Would swisscom AS3303 please check your routers and stop this from propogating into routeviews... route-views.oregon-ix.net>sh ip bgp 68.0.0.0/7 BGP routing table entry for 68.0.0.0/7, version 12278613 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Not advertised to any peer 3277 13062 20485 8437 3303 194.85.4.249 from 194.85.4.249 (194.85.4.249) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best -- William Leibzon Elan Networks william(a)elan.net

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SORBS DUL (Dynamic User List) announcement and suggestions welcome.
by Matthew Sullivan 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

For those that didn't see it, I believe it is on topic as it is relating to connectivity/locations of ISPs mailservers. --- Subject: Notice SORBS DNSbl users, regarding the easynet blacklists being discontinued Dec 1 2003 Hi All, As of a last night SORBS imported and merged the Easynet (Wirehub) Dynablock database into the SORBS DUL. SORBS also has included the Dynablock exceptions list and now has a mechanism to include more exceptions to the DUL should they be nessesary. Users of the EasyNet Dynablock are welcome to use the SORBS DUL, however please remember that the Dynablock list was merged with the SORBS DUL. The DUL is available on its own as: dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net It is also available via the aggregate zone: dnsbl.sorbs.net Any positive entry in the DUL will return 127.0.0.10 Yours Matthew @ SORBS --- Network operators, you are welcome and requested to submit your networks, both static and dynamic to SORBS for inclusion/exclusion from the list. A number of you already do, for which I thank you, however with the import of a massive amount of data there are likely to be a couple or errors here and there , if you see any please mail me directly and I will be happy to correct the entry by either removing it or by creating an exclusion. My next planned work on SORBS is as mentioned a few days ago, creating a whitehat system for the spam databases. Again assuming I am not called off topic when it is complete I will announce it here and discuss it offlist. If anyone wishes to talk to me about SORBS which would be considered offtopic please mail me privately or subscribe and post to the public 'dnsbl-users(a)sorbs.net' list. Also network listed over the last few days in the spam database are requested to contact me as soon as possible as there are some virus mails that got into a spamtrap that made it into the system, these need to be removed asap, so if you are blocked or see any, please mail me offlist and I will sort them aout as soon as possible. (Earthlink representitive (if you are listening) I think one of your servers got in it, but I am unable to get an IP from your users at the moment) Thanks Yours Matthew

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RE: Anit-Virus help for all of us?????? Must have more Free!
by Brennan_Murphy＠NAI.com 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

If only free could become contagious (no pun intended) and we could all accomplish what we need to with, for example, free bandwidth, free server hardware, free network engineering....free apple macintoshes :-)... Ha-ha, ho-ho, he-he..... --------------- All kidding aside...is "free" the answer to the current insecurity of the Internet? I hope not! :-) Speaking as someone who knows at least a fraction of what's involved in AV/FW research... free is not likely to deliver us any time soon. Free is almost always marketing. But of course, people and their pocketbooks tend to decide how these things go... -BM PS http://us.mcafee.com/root/catalog.asp?catid=free ...neener-neener... :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of McBurnett, Jim Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:29 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Anit-Virus help for all of us?????? Thought this is on topic for the group with all the new virii and new problems out there. Would anyone here consider sending this out to all customers? Later, Jim Last week at the Comdex show in Las Vegas, Computer Associates International, Inc. (known to the world as CA) teamed up with Microsoft Corp to provide "qualified" Windows home computer users with a no-charge, one-year subscription to CA's eTrust EZ Armor antivirus and firewall desktop security suite. The move is designed to encourage home users to increase the protection of their Windows systems and CA has stated that the company will aggressively promote the offer as part of Microsoft's "Protect Your PC" campaign. SNIP The EZ Armor software carries a value of $49.95 and the free subscription offer for will be available for download until June 30, 2004 and comes complete with one year of personal firewall and antivirus protection including daily virus signature updates. http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=11450

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Re: Check your AS: Renesys Blackout Report Released
by Mike Tancsa 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

On page 9, table 1 you list Allstream as being "was Bell Canada." They were the network formerly known as AT&T Canada. ---Mike At 02:16 PM 24/11/2003, todd(a)renesys.com wrote: >Folx, > >Hot off the presses, from the people who brought you the excellent (and >fun!) reports on the effects of worms on routing instabilities, how the >Internet fared on Sept 11, 2001, and other fine topics of interest to the >operator community, comes a new report: > > >"Impact of the 2003 Blackouts on Internet Communications" >available now at: >http://www.renesys.com/news/index.html ><a href="http://www.renesys.com/news/index.html">here</a> > > >It is an attempt to do a thorough, retrospective analysis of the impact of >the power outages from a purely routing perspective. We tried to be quite >rigorous in our methodology and careful in our inferences. However, we >came to what may be an unpopular conclusion: the Internet fared worse >than others have previously reported. The main difference in our >conclusions lies in different measurement strategies (core to core layer >3-4 monitoring versus global BGP routing monitoring). Read the paper for >more information. > >We also hoped to produce a definitive analysis of the network (routing, >BGP) impact of the power outages so that others can compare future events. > >We're particularly interested in feedback from operators with assets in >the affected regions of the US, Canada and Italy (see Appendix B for a >good comparison of the Sept 28 Italy Blackout with the Aug 14 US >Blackout). > >A few specific ASes are mentioned in the report. We would love to hear >feedback from those ASes or others who were affected to learn more about >the backstory behind the outage. If your prefixes stayed up, why? If >some went down and some didn't, what caused that? Did your upstreams and >peers stay up? Were local power outages at routers the primary cause of >outages, or did other factors enter into the equation? We saw one AS with >nine (9!) upstream ASes lose all of it's prefixes. Could it be that >someone with 9 upstream adjacencies didn't have reliable power? > >These questions, plus a general discussion of Internet edge reliability >(power and interconnectedness) seem on-topic for the list. > >Of course, we read nanog :-), so we'd love to see those stories discussed >here in a context that would help all of us understand the causes and >mitigation strategies better, but private mail will also be gratefully >accepted. If you don't ever want us to mention your name in public, be >sure to let us know. > >Todd Underwood >todd(a)renesys.com

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RE: Anit-Virus help for all of us??????
by Wesley Vaux 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

"if you build it they will come" Goes right along with "if you send it out you will support it" Think about it. -----Original Message----- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh@outblaze.com] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:08 PM To: Jeff Shultz Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Anit-Virus help for all of us?????? Jeff Shultz writes on 11/24/2003 1:46 PM: > Firewalls at least tend to be a bit more hands off... and I'd like to > hear more about the "snake oil" parts. Doesn't the 1/2wall that XP > ships with default to "disabled?" Interesting reading here - http://groups.google.com/groups?q=vernon+schryver+snake+oil+firewall -- srs (postmaster|suresh)(a)outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com security and antispam operations

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Check your AS: Renesys Blackout Report Released
by todd＠renesys.com 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Folx, Hot off the presses, from the people who brought you the excellent (and fun!) reports on the effects of worms on routing instabilities, how the Internet fared on Sept 11, 2001, and other fine topics of interest to the operator community, comes a new report: "Impact of the 2003 Blackouts on Internet Communications" available now at: http://www.renesys.com/news/index.html <a href="http://www.renesys.com/news/index.html">here</a> It is an attempt to do a thorough, retrospective analysis of the impact of the power outages from a purely routing perspective. We tried to be quite rigorous in our methodology and careful in our inferences. However, we came to what may be an unpopular conclusion: the Internet fared worse than others have previously reported. The main difference in our conclusions lies in different measurement strategies (core to core layer 3-4 monitoring versus global BGP routing monitoring). Read the paper for more information. We also hoped to produce a definitive analysis of the network (routing, BGP) impact of the power outages so that others can compare future events. We're particularly interested in feedback from operators with assets in the affected regions of the US, Canada and Italy (see Appendix B for a good comparison of the Sept 28 Italy Blackout with the Aug 14 US Blackout). A few specific ASes are mentioned in the report. We would love to hear feedback from those ASes or others who were affected to learn more about the backstory behind the outage. If your prefixes stayed up, why? If some went down and some didn't, what caused that? Did your upstreams and peers stay up? Were local power outages at routers the primary cause of outages, or did other factors enter into the equation? We saw one AS with nine (9!) upstream ASes lose all of it's prefixes. Could it be that someone with 9 upstream adjacencies didn't have reliable power? These questions, plus a general discussion of Internet edge reliability (power and interconnectedness) seem on-topic for the list. Of course, we read nanog :-), so we'd love to see those stories discussed here in a context that would help all of us understand the causes and mitigation strategies better, but private mail will also be gratefully accepted. If you don't ever want us to mention your name in public, be sure to let us know. Todd Underwood todd(a)renesys.com

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