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RE: SPAM Directly from AT&T Data Networking
by Callahan, Richard M, GVSOL 05 Jul '04

05 Jul '04

As much as I hate to open this can of worms, I am online, I do work for AT&T and I do have a vested interest in SPAM and other ISP related issues. Some of you may recall I was the naive idiot that allowed AT&T to launch the Do Not Call Registry without first learning the rules, etiquette and proper structure of email. It caused a stir among many of you nanog'ers and a major pain for AT&T in email blocking and other unintended consequences. As the Government pushes through the maze in an effort to make sense of the CANSPAM Act, I continue to stay engaged and am most definitely an anti-spam proponent. When I saw Mr. Lorenz's post I immediately verified it did indeed come from AT&T and called the responsible party. Having spoken directly to her, I would like to point out that she did indeed take the time to research the FCC SPAM laws and has stuck to them. She has provided an opt-out message and assures me she takes it very seriously. If you have responded to her with a request to NOT be contacted again, you have not been. The other side of this coin is her responsibilities are to sell specifically to ISP's, she is young, aggressive and very successful. AT&T's new rate structure has been significantly reduced and this was an expedient way to get the word out. For nearly 80% of those on her mail list, there has been a very positive response and many smiling faces at the money they will be saving. I do not mean this to be a sales pitch, just a different perspective. My apologies to those that are/were offended. I will monitor all input from nanog on this communication chain and forward my (and your) thoughts to Ms. Macker for consideration and appropriate action. Thanks for listening!! Richard Callahan -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Dr. Jeffrey Race Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:40 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: SPAM Directly from AT&T Data Networking In the last few days I have had two spams with injection point 127.0.0.1. This definitely needs to be addressed by ATT. Anyone online from ATT like to say something? Jeffrey Race On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:17:08 -0400 (EDT), William R. Lorenz wrote: > >So, with AT&T being a network provider at all, is it just customary for >them to SPAM like this? This is the second one I've received from them. >

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Who broke .org?
by Richard A Steenbergen 05 Jul '04

05 Jul '04

I guess I'll ask first... -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras(a)e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

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Re: Who broke .org?
by Per Gregers Bilse 03 Jul '04

03 Jul '04

On Jul 2, 2:48pm, Jeff Wasilko <jeffw(a)smoe.org> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 02:38:12PM -0400, Patrick W Gilmore wrote: > > run .org, I just think a blanket statement "anycast is bad" is, well, > > bad.) > > I'd be totally happy to see a combination, too. It's just pretty > obvious that the current solution isn't reliable over the long-haul. At least the previous outage (a couple of weeks ago) had nothing to do with anycast, I was getting NXDOMAIN replies back, and no kind of fallback or non-anycast deployment would have helped. Anycast functionality is well understood, and is less likely to cause problems than the fact that the servers seem to be under a single "one typo breaks all" management system. True redundancy requires the two sets of servers to be managed by different people doing different things in different ways at different times; this too is well understood, and I'm a little dismayed this (or at least some weaker form thereof) seems not to be the case. (Note I'm saying "seem", I'm just guessing based on the observations I and other people have made.) I think a statement from UltraDNS and/or Public Interest Registry as to what caused the problems would have been, and still is, appropriate, considering the public interest aspect. -- Per

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ultradns reachability
by Matt Ghali 03 Jul '04

03 Jul '04

is anyone else seeing timeouts reaching ultradns' .org nameservers? I'm seeing seemingly random timeout failures from both sbci and uc berkeley.

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Re: ultradns reachability
by Matt Ghali 03 Jul '04

03 Jul '04

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Leo Bicknell wrote: > So the question is not so much "is 500ms towards the server > bad", it's "can I build a single server (cluster) that will take > all the load worldwide when the client software does bad things." DNS traffic, surprisingly, is not very "fat". It is no HTTP nor SMTP. The engineering behind appropriately sizing a unicast fallback would be pretty trivial, especially compared to building a somewhat-robust anycast architecture. matto

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Re: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publi cly available?]
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 03 Jul '04

03 Jul '04

Indeed, I agree. I remember earlier times when there were serious concerns over serious traffic bottlenecks, primarily due to the lag in speed-of-bits-on-the-wire technology ramp up. I recall the NSFnet backbone at a whopping 56kb trunk speed prior to the node transition(s)! We, collectively, have left those days behind for the most part. Now, it's just a matter of "five-pound-bag" engineering. I'm quite proud and happy to see this experiment succeed to the point where we have the "problems" we do. ;-) Cheers, - ferg -- Patrick W Gilmore <patrick(a)ianai.net> wrote: Today, even free NAPs pass gigabits of traffic and do it robustly. If you have counter examples, I would be interested in seeing them. A lot of traffic passes on NAPs, and I'd hate to see any of it not get to where it was going. -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net

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Peering point speed publicly available?
by Erik Amundson 03 Jul '04

03 Jul '04

NANOG, I have a question regarding information on my ISP's peering relationships. Are the speeds of some or all peering relationships public knowledge, and if so, where can I find this? By speed, I mean bandwidth (DS3, OC3, 100Mbps, 1Gbps, etc.). I am trying to transfer large stuff from my AS, through my ISP, through another ISP, to another AS, and I'm wondering how fast the peering point is between the ISPs. I'm working with my provider to get this information as we speak, but I'm wondering if it's available publicly anywhere. If it were, this could be one way to evaluate providers in the future, I guess. Erik Amundson A+, N+, CCNA, CCNP IT and Network Manager Open Access Technology Int'l, Inc. Phone (763) 201-2005 Fax (763) 553-2813 mailto:erik.amundson@oati.net

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latest caida analysis of transit vs stuff, multihomed vs single-homed ASs
by k claffy 03 Jul '04

03 Jul '04

using RouteViews data http://www.caida.org/analysis/routing/astypes/ k

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Donation of cisco netflow export from production router?
by Dan Lockwood 02 Jul '04

02 Jul '04

Hello everyone, I'm working on a project to characterize and summarize traffic info using netflow. I have completed a prototype and have been testing it on our network but would like to see how it performs with some 'real' traffic. Is there someone out there that wouldn't mind exporting some flow information to me from one of their production routers that has some load on it? Maybe ~100Mb ish? If you can assist, please contact me off list. Thanks! Dan

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Weekly Routing Table Report
by Routing Table Analysis 02 Jul '04

02 Jul '04

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfs(a)cisco.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 03 Jul, 2004 Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 141719 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 85308 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 67743 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 17524 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 15178 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 7106 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2346 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 72 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.9 Max AS path length visible: 26 Illegal AS announcements present in the Routing Table: 5 Non-routable prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 19 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 1318427880 Equivalent to 78 /8s, 149 /16s and 156 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 35.6 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 58.4 Percentage of available address space allocated: 60.9 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 64876 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 27202 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 14034 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 25419 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 13938 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2064 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 620 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 332 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.9 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 151075520 Equivalent to 9 /8s, 1 /16s and 58 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 68.9 APNIC AS Blocks 4608 - 4864, 7467 - 7722, 9216 - 10239 17408 - 18431, 23552 - 24575 APNIC Address Blocks 58/7, 60/7, 202/7, 210/7, 218/7, 220/7 and 222/8 ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 81038 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 49844 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 62840 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 21956 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 9287 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 3313 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 906 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 4.6 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 17 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 227205920 Equivalent to 13 /8s, 138 /16s and 227 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 75.2 ARIN AS Blocks 1 - 1876, 1902 - 2042, 2044 - 2046, 2048 - 2106 2138 - 2584, 2615 - 2772, 2823 - 2829, 2880 - 3153 3354 - 4607, 4865 - 5119, 5632 - 6655, 6912 - 7466 7723 - 8191, 10240 - 12287, 13312 - 15359 16384 - 17407, 18432 - 20479, 21504 - 23551 25600 - 26591, 26624 - 27647, 29695 - 30719 31744 - 33791 ARIN Address Blocks 24/8, 63/8, 64/6, 68/7, 70/8, 198/7, 204/6, 208/7 and 216/8 RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 26116 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 18501 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 22896 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 14664 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 5631 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 3041 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 989 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.5 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 26 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 167557184 Equivalent to 9 /8s, 252 /16s and 184 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 58.7 RIPE AS Blocks 1877 - 1901, 2043, 2047, 2107 - 2136, 2585 - 2614 2773 - 2822, 2830 - 2879, 3154 - 3353, 5377 - 5631 6656 - 6911, 8192 - 9215, 12288 - 13311, 15360 - 16383 20480 - 21503, 24576 - 25599, 28672 - 29695 30720 - 31743, 33792 - 34815 RIPE Address Blocks 62/8, 80/5, 88/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/7, 212/7 and 217/8 LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 6188 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 2254 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 5854 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 3582 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 378 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 109 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 74 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 5.2 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 15216384 Equivalent to 0 /8s, 232 /16s and 47 /24s Percentage of available LACNIC address space announced: 45.3 LACNIC AS Blocks 26592 - 26623, 27648 - 28671 LACNIC Address Blocks 200/7 Emerging AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 1174 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 675 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 778 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 584 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 91 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 23 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 12 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.9 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 1886720 Equivalent to 0 /8s, 28 /16s and 202 /24s Percentage of available AfriNIC address space announced: 11.2 AfriNIC AS Blocks <none> AfriNIC Address Blocks 196/8 APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 1221 823 1041 593 Telstra Pty Ltd 4134 793 3664 147 Data Communications Bureau 4766 499 2895 266 Korea Internet Exchange for " 9583 476 39 101 Satyam Infoway Ltd., 4755 378 134 55 Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Aut 2907 350 1840 327 SINET Japan 17557 341 24 168 Pakistan Telecom 17676 341 5084 33 XTAGE CORPORATION 9929 324 156 33 China Netcom Corp. 703 321 358 250 UUNET 9443 318 69 83 Primus Telecommunications 2764 291 258 239 connect.com.au pty ltd 7474 264 268 206 Optus Communications Pty Ltd 9942 233 71 129 COMindico Australia 9800 224 369 62 CHINA UNICOM 9498 218 48 49 BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 10026 202 11 131 IXNet Hong Kong Limited 4802 199 23 138 Wantree Development 10036 198 18 179 C&M Communication Co. Ltd. 4837 189 2019 105 chinanet IDC center beijing n ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 7018 1442 6865 993 AT&T 701 1305 8487 931 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 6347 981 400 103 SAVVIS Communications Corpora 1239 939 2890 631 Sprint 3356 893 10916 678 Level 3 Communications, LLC 4323 739 570 206 Time Warner Communications, I 18566 725 192 8 Covad Communications 6197 710 526 278 BellSouth Network Solutions, 209 611 3454 504 Qwest 20115 563 374 289 Charter Communications 6198 515 396 214 BellSouth Network Solutions, 852 512 1142 400 Telus Advanced Communications 7843 512 663 129 Adelphia Corp. 7132 456 7872 342 Southwestern Bell Internet Se 2386 424 565 226 AT&T Data Communications Serv 721 396 13203 289 DLA Systems Automation Center 22909 393 825 26 Comcast Cable Corporation 4355 391 323 101 EarthLink, Inc. 705 388 128 264 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 22773 388 782 56 Cox Communications, Inc. Atla RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 702 647 2039 541 UUNET - Commercial IP service 3320 298 2468 236 Deutsche Telekom AG 3301 295 1098 268 TeliaNet Sweden 8220 275 429 263 COLT Internet - International 1257 250 498 195 SWIPnet Swedish IP Network 680 244 2025 239 DFN-IP service G-WiN 13083 216 51 8 Mannesmann Datenverarbeitung 3246 211 476 208 Song Networks 5515 200 842 146 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 8708 188 112 175 Romania Data Systems S.A. 3215 183 895 70 France Telecom Transpac 719 181 288 103 LANLINK autonomous system 25186 174 156 115 France Telecom Transpac's Tra 786 173 1792 173 The JANET IP Service 6746 158 29 129 Dynamic Network Technologies, 5400 144 205 120 BT Ignite European Backbone 3269 135 1099 64 TELECOM ITALIA 3303 133 611 132 Swisscom Ltd 8866 128 14 11 Bulgarian Telecommunication C 12302 128 18 32 MobiFon S.A. LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 11172 356 96 58 Servicios Alestra S.A de C.V 6140 332 140 65 ImpSat 8151 279 389 129 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 16814 207 14 10 NSS, S.A. 6147 184 82 21 Telefonica Del Peru 7303 147 53 30 Telecom Argentina Stet-France 6505 134 90 92 Global One Communicaoes Ltda 6503 132 202 90 AVANTEL, S.A. 11992 90 9 29 Integrated Systems 11556 87 57 24 Cable-Wireless Panama 6535 81 5 16 Chilesat Servicios Empresari 14420 77 5 27 ANDINATEL S.A. 15311 75 19 37 Telefonica Empresas 11311 73 7 18 Sinectis S.A. 14535 72 6 5 Techtel S.A. 5639 71 8 8 Telecommunications Services o 4270 70 18 9 Red de Interconexion Universi 14117 69 5 4 Telefonica del Sur S.A. 10292 67 6 26 TELECOMMUNICATIONS OF JAMAICA 14259 67 4 5 GTD Internet S.A. AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 3741 253 632 220 The Internet Solution 5536 111 16 4 Internet Egypt Network 2018 94 297 92 Tertiary Education Network 2905 90 276 80 The Internetworking Company o 11845 39 9 11 Data Pro Business Online 20928 35 16 1 Noor Advanced Technologies AS 24835 31 18 6 RAYA Telecom - Egypt 12455 26 4 2 Jambonet Autonomous system 5713 25 125 23 Telkom SA Ltd 16637 25 9 18 Johnnic e-Ventures 6713 24 38 9 Itissalat Al-MAGHRIB 8524 24 2 7 AUCEGYPT Autonomous System 14988 24 16 1 Botswana Telecommunications C 9129 23 3 2 UUNET Kenya 10798 18 1 12 Standard Bank of South Africa 15706 16 2 3 Sudatel Internet Exchange Aut 12258 15 3 10 Vodacom Internet Company 8346 13 6 12 SONATEL-AS Autonomous System 17148 13 1 7 First National Bank 21280 13 2 3 Swift Global Kenya Ltd.Is an Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 6347 981 878 SAVVIS Communications Corpora 18566 725 717 Covad Communications 4134 793 646 Data Communications Bureau 4323 739 533 Time Warner Communications, I 6197 710 432 BellSouth Network Solutions, 7843 512 383 Adelphia Corp. 9583 476 375 Satyam Infoway Ltd., 701 1305 374 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 22909 393 367 Comcast Cable Corporation 5668 380 362 Century Telephone 27364 376 357 Armstrong Cable Services 22773 388 332 Cox Communications, Inc. Atla 4755 378 323 Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Aut 1239 939 308 Sprint 17676 341 308 XTAGE CORPORATION 6198 515 301 BellSouth Network Solutions, 11172 356 298 Servicios Alestra S.A de C.V 9929 324 291 China Netcom Corp. 4355 391 290 EarthLink, Inc. 20115 563 274 Charter Communications List of Unregistered ASNs (Global) ---------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 18416 UNALLOCATED 61.56.96.0/24 9919 New Century InfoComm 18416 UNALLOCATED 61.56.96.0/20 9919 New Century InfoComm 18416 UNALLOCATED 61.56.97.0/24 9919 New Century InfoComm 18416 UNALLOCATED 61.56.98.0/24 9919 New Century InfoComm 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.199.0/24 1876 Southern Methodist U Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 132.0.0.0/10 568 DISO-UNRRA 137.0.0.0/13 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 156.154.16.0/22 7786 Lockheed Martin IMS 158.0.0.0/13 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 164.234.0.0/18 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 164.234.0.0/16 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 192.43.230.0/24 4738 South Australian Academic Res 192.44.0.0/19 702 UUNET - Commercial IP service 192.70.164.0/24 25689 National Research Council of 192.83.16.0/20 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.83.32.0/19 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.83.96.0/22 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.83.100.0/24 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.84.205.0/24 719 LANLINK autonomous system 192.119.135.0/24 270 NASA 192.135.50.0/24 7018 AT&T 192.136.79.0/24 719 LANLINK autonomous system 192.172.0.0/19 568 DISO-UNRRA 192.172.11.0/24 721 DLA Systems Automation Center Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:20 /9:3 /10:6 /11:15 /12:59 /13:127 /14:301 /15:521 /16:7892 /17:2086 /18:3664 /19:9505 /20:9959 /21:7301 /22:10337 /23:11851 /24:77344 /25:220 /26:223 /27:164 /28:26 /29:14 /30:67 /31:0 /32:14 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 6347 758 981 SAVVIS Communications Corpora 18566 708 725 Covad Communications 7018 559 1442 AT&T 6197 539 710 BellSouth Network Solutions, 3356 502 893 Level 3 Communications, LLC 702 395 647 UUNET - Commercial IP service 6198 385 515 BellSouth Network Solutions, 1239 374 939 Sprint 701 367 1305 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 27364 364 376 Armstrong Cable Services 5668 333 380 Century Telephone 9583 320 476 Satyam Infoway Ltd., 4766 318 499 Korea Internet Exchange for " 20115 297 563 Charter Communications 9929 257 324 China Netcom Corp. 14824 255 279 NewSouth Communications Corp. 3320 247 298 Deutsche Telekom AG 13609 244 286 Choice One Communications Inc 25844 244 244 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher 690 241 277 Merit Network Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 4:3 12:830 13:1 15:5 16:2 17:3 20:8 24:753 32:65 33:2 38:73 40:53 44:4 55:1 56:3 57:16 61:453 62:503 63:1862 64:2004 65:2043 66:2643 67:327 68:502 69:596 70:64 80:541 81:320 82:182 83:96 84:3 128:147 129:176 130:80 131:187 132:23 133:1 134:178 135:17 136:178 137:54 138:170 139:37 140:169 141:122 142:118 143:58 144:103 145:41 146:297 147:77 148:414 149:117 150:86 151:71 152:172 153:64 154:2 155:124 156:60 157:63 158:144 159:147 160:52 161:64 162:383 163:76 164:185 165:160 166:104 167:220 168:230 169:109 170:287 171:8 192:5547 193:2795 194:2047 195:1378 196:551 198:3684 199:3115 200:3594 201:8 202:4734 203:5650 204:3127 205:2092 206:2260 207:2488 208:2203 209:2994 210:1438 211:568 212:982 213:1175 214:66 215:30 216:3711 217:971 218:170 219:119 220:233 221:31 222:47 End of report

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