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Toplayer
by Hosman, Ross 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

Can someone that works with toplayer equipment please contact me off the list. Ross Hosman HSD Administrator ross.hosman(a)chartercom.com

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OT: Question for carriers about identity and access management
by Hank Nussbacher 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

I am looking for some answers from carriers (not ISPs) in regards to identity and access management on telco equipment. If anyone has 5 minutes - drop me an email and I'll send you the 4 questions. Thanks, Hank

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Knock, Knock - Its Attorney General John Ashcroft
by Sean Donelan 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

Justice Dept. to Announce Cyber-Crime Crackdown Actions to Include Arrests, Subpoenas By Jonathan Krim Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, August 25, 2004; Page E05 The Justice Department is set to announce a major crackdown on cyber-crime that will include arrests, subpoenas and property seizures of alleged e-mail spammers and online scam artists, according to law enforcement and industry sources. Attorney General John D. Ashcroft has scheduled a news conference for tomorrow , with some of the more than 100 enforcement actions continuing through tonight. [...] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30087-2004Aug24.html

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Fw: RFC 3869 on IAB Concerns and Recommendations Regarding Internet
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

I don't normally cross-post items from the IETF, but I thought this particular TFC announcement would be appreciated by readers of NANOG. Cheers, - ferg 8<---- snip -------------- A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 3869 Title: IAB Concerns and Recommendations Regarding Internet Research and Evolution Author(s): R. Atkinson, Ed., S. Floyd, Ed., IAB Status: Informational Date: August 2004 Mailbox: iab(a)iab.org Pages: 30 Characters: 78250 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-iab-research-funding-03.txt URL: ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3869.txt This document discusses IAB concerns that ongoing research is needed to further the evolution of the Internet infrastructure, and that consistent, sufficient non-commercial funding is needed to enable such research. This document is a product of the Internet Architecture Board. This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF list and the RFC-DIST list. Requests to be added to or deleted from the IETF distribution list should be sent to IETF-REQUEST(a)IETF.ORG. Requests to be added to or deleted from the RFC-DIST distribution list should be sent to RFC-DIST-REQUEST(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Details on obtaining RFCs via FTP or EMAIL may be obtained by sending an EMAIL message to rfc-info(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG with the message body help: ways_to_get_rfcs. For example: To: rfc-info(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG Subject: getting rfcs help: ways_to_get_rfcs Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the author of the RFC in question, or to RFC-Manager(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Unless specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for unlimited distribution.echo Submissions for Requests for Comments should be sent to RFC-EDITOR(a)RFC-EDITOR.ORG. Please consult RFC 2223, Instructions to RFC Authors, for further information. Joyce K. Reynolds and Sandy Ginoza USC/Information Sciences Institute -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net

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Need a Contact From DotEarth.com / DOMAIN REGISTRATION SERVICES
by Jeff Wheeler 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

Anyone here have contact information for DotEarth.com (aka: Domain Registration Services)? Other than the standard information on their website and whois data of course. Please reply off-list.

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Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior
by J. Oquendo 24 Aug '04

24 Aug '04

Hello all, wondering if anyone has seen or experienced this same problem. Currently deploying an OC12 on a campus network and am using Netgear media converters. Set up the lines and had lit fiber to the building I needed it to go to. On one end (main drop) I had light and tested the connectivity which worked fine, on the other side, when I jacked up my Netgear, it flickered. Now, when I went to swap out the fiber, I noticed a full contact between the wires and the converter dropped it out. Meaning if I had the wires not fully plugged it lit, if I plugged them entirely in, it dropped. So... I ran to the other building and tried to replicate it there, and it did the same. I figured bad media converter so I swapped it out, next one worked fine. However, I took the media converter and swapped the funky acting one to yet another building and it worked fine. Anyone care to offer a thought on this? Relevant to my media converter? Bad line, "Murphy's Law", etc? =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo GPG Key ID 0x51F9D78D Fingerprint 2A48 BA18 1851 4C99 CA22 0619 DB63 F2F7 51F9 D78D http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x51F9D78D sil @ politrix . org http://www.politrix.org sil @ infiltrated . net http://www.infiltrated.net "How can we account for our present situation unless we believe that men high in this government are concerting to deliver us to disaster?" Joseph McCarthy "America's Retreat from Victory"

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Discounts on MRV gear?
by Deepak Jain 24 Aug '04

24 Aug '04

What is a "decent" discount on MRV gear? Sanity checking some numbers here. Private replies are probably better, I can send a 1 line summary to the list. :) Thanks, DJ

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Re: More on Sri Lanka fiber outage....
by Robert Bonomi 24 Aug '04

24 Aug '04

> From owner-nanog(a)merit.edu Tue Aug 24 08:01:15 2004 > Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:57:29 +0100 (WEST) > From: Carlos Friacas <cfriacas(a)fccn.pt> > To: Bruce Campbell <bc-nanog(a)vicious.dropbear.id.au> > Cc: nanog list <nanog(a)merit.edu> > Subject: Re: More on Sri Lanka fiber outage.... > > > On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Bruce Campbell wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Tony Li wrote: > > > > > Did they arrest the crew? They have grounds on negligence > > > charges... > > > > The crew of the ship for having dropped anchor presumably in defiance of > > 'Undersea cable, Do not anchor here' signs, or the telco for having sited > > a critical communications cable near/beneath a busy port ? > > > > --==-- > > Bruce. > > > > ( Of course, I don't know the specifics, but if you have a choice, running > > your very-special undersea cable beneath a port would seem to be a bad > > idea ) > > > > ...an alternative ISP would have made big bucks during those blockout > days using some satellite gear, no? ;-) subject to the availability of: uplink stations adequate bandwidth _to_ the uplink stations available satellites in 'line-of-sight' available transponder time on useable satellites. cost of that time. available 'downlink' earth receiving station(s) adequate bandwith connectins _from_ downlink points. cost of the downlink service Getting significant bandwidth on a satellite link, for any extended period, takes a *lot* of advance negotiation and arrangements.

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Re: Ship seized for cutting Sri Lanka's internet link
by sgorman1＠gmu.edu 24 Aug '04

24 Aug '04

This all reminds me of an old Neal Stephenson quote from a piece he did for Wired back in the day. There are more cables and a few more landing stations these days, but on the bottleneck side not much has changed "In defense of telephony people, it must be pointed out that they are the ones who really know the score when it comes to sending bits across oceans. Netheads have heard so much puffery about the robust nature of the Internet and its amazing ability to route around obstacles that they frequently have a grossly inflated conception of how many routes packets can take between continents and how much bandwidth those routes can carry. As of this writing, I have learned that nearly the entire state of Minnesota was recently cut off from the Internet for 13 hours because it had only one primary connection to the global Net, and that link went down. If Minnesota, of all places, is so vulnerable, one can imagine how tenuous many international links must be. Douglas Barnes, an Oakland-based hacker and cypherpunk, looked into this issue a couple of years ago when, inspired by Bruce Sterling's Islands in the Net, he was doing background research on a project to set up a data haven in the Caribbean. "I found out that the idea of the Internet as a highly distributed, redundant global communications system is a myth,'' he discovered. "Virtually all communications between countries take place through a very small number of bottlenecks, and the available bandwidth simply isn't that great.'' And he cautions: "Even outfits like FLAG don't really grok the Internet. The undersized cables they are running reflect their myopic outlook.'' On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:53:37 BST, Carlos Friacas said: > if yes, here we see once again the "benefits" of having a monopoly in the > telecom industry. and a bad one it seems... even if the incumbent is the > only way out of the island, it would seem wise (not cost-driven) to have a > second cable at least connecting the island to the world... ;-) And make sure the two landing stations are on opposite sides of the island. But even then you can't win - I seem to recall that Sri Lanka has a small problem with rebels - who could conceivably end up controlling one of the stations.....

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Re: Ship seized for cutting Sri Lanka's internet link
by Robert Bonomi 24 Aug '04

24 Aug '04

> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:53:37 +0100 (WEST) > From: Carlos Friacas <cfriacas(a)fccn.pt> > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Ship seized for cutting Sri Lanka's internet link > > > > *only* internet connection? No, not exactly the -only- connection. They had some satellite-relay capacity. *LIMITED* bandwidth availability. voice or data. > if yes, here we see once again the "benefits" of having a monopoly in the > telecom industry. and a bad one it seems... even if the incumbent is the > only way out of the island, it would seem wise (not cost-driven) to have a > second cable at least connecting the island to the world... ;-) Do you have any idea of the *cost* of such a 'second cable' ? Or how _long_ it takes to install? > On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Sean Donelan wrote: > > > > > Sri Lanka's high court has ordered the seizure of an Indian cargo vessel > > which allegedly cut a submarine cable connecting the island's > > telecommunications subscribers with the rest of the world. > > > > The court ordered that the vessel, State of Nagaland, be held at the > > Colombo port where it berthed on Sunday after accidentally severing the > > cable known as the SEA-ME-WE-III with its anchor. >

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