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anyone from GBLX ?
by Thomas Graham 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

anyone from global crossing internet linking company ?

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Lots of bandwidth coming into India by next year
by Suresh Ramasubramanian 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

Article about how lots of new undersea cables - SEA-ME-WE 4 (VSNL and Bharti), Falcon (which I think is FLAG as Reliance is bringing it in), and at least one new VSNL link to Singapore - are going to lead to about 541 gigs more bandwidth coming into India, so that costs will be lowered What I can see is that there have been other factors so far for Internet costs to be as high as they are in India. 1. VSNL, back when it was the incumbent ISP, hanging on to most of the available bandwidth in FLAG and refusing to release more than 10% of it, leaving the rest of it dark. 2. Lack of peering so far (and inefficient peering now at nixi.org) means a lot of local traffic still gets routed through international links. 3. More providers with nationwide fiber and right of way - mostly government owned public utility companies (railtel from Indian Railways, then there's the Gas Authority of India ...) 4. Competition seems to be making most ISPs cut their prices and up their service offerings, especially in Broadband. Even the government owned telco BSNL, which has an edge in that the regulators / ministry of IT feel it is their "duty" to protect it, seems to be reacting to all the competition by rolling out new and better priced products. I am sorry the article isn't more technical .. it was printed in The Economic Times, one of several newspapers around the world that's printed on salmon pink paper. srs http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/947564.cms Net surfing costs to crash by almost 50% TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, DECEMBER 06, 2004 01:26:22 AM] MUMBAI: There’s a price war on its way. In ’05, India’s undersea cable capacity — which provides the ‘roadway’ for data and voice transfer across the world — is due to rise by 17 times over ’01 levels. Naturally, this means that costs will crash — industry estimates are that connectivity costs will nearly halve. So surf the net faster, check your mail on your mobile, and don’t worry about getting those huge databases across to California. All this at half the price. So forget about India losing its low-cost edge in the BPO space. There’s good news coming your way, in the form of a 541 Gbps chunk. This fall in prices will bring India’s connectivity costs at par with those across Asia. The decline in prices is likely to help BPOs the most. For instance, currently, the total monthly cost of a DS3 to US is $126,192, significantly higher than Malaysia’s $20,922, Philippines’ $27,185, Singapore’s $14,435 and $13,956 in Korea. A DS3 is a 45 Mbps (mega bits per second) capacity connection. Most BPOs have a minimum of 1 or 2 Mbps capacity, but the larger ones have several DS3s or even larger capacities. BPOs are estimated to utilise about 30% of international capacity, and are second only to internet service providers (ISPs) in international capacity consumption. Currently, in Asia, Indonesia, India and Thailand, in that order, are the most expensive countries. “Within Asia, India is five times more expensive than the Asian hubs of Singapore, Hong Kong and Japan,” said Puneeth Punja, principal analyst with research firm, Gartner. In other words, the cost of connectivity between Singapore-Hong Kong is one-fifth that of connectivity between Singapore-India. One of the reasons for the higher prices in the country is that, from ’01 to ’04, the prices on a cumulative basis fell by just 40% in India, while those in the rest of Asia fell by 70-80%. Increasing competition and bigger cable capacities are likely to result in a sharp fall of over 50% in India in ’05. The rest of Asia is likely to see a lower fall of an average 20%, thus leading to price parity across India and the other Asian countries by ’05. “The available capacity has grown from 31 Gbps in ’01 to 541 Gbps by the first quarter of ’05, a 17-fold increase. So, the pricing is expected to drop significantly,” said Tony Nash, vice companies president, marketing and communications of the Singapore-based Orient Networks, a telecommunications network service provider. “Connectivity costs comprise 10-25% of a BPO’s operating costs,” said Mr Nash. The new cables touching India’s shores includes South East Asia-Middle East-Western Europe 4 (SEA-ME-WE 4) where VSNL and Bharti are part of the 12-member consortium, the Chennai-Changi cable of VSNL and the Falcon cable of Reliance Infocomm. The Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (Trai), in its consultation paper on revision of tariff of domestic leased circuits released in June this year, had proposed an over 63-75% reduction in the tariffs for capacities of 2 Mbps and 64 Kbps for beyond 500 km. “Leased lines are the dominant product in both domestic and international data services, comprising close to 80% of the total market,” said Mr Punja.

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Weekly Routing Table Report
by Routing Table Analysis 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfs(a)cisco.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 11 Dec, 2004 Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 152879 Prefixes after maximum aggregation: 89593 Unique aggregates announced to Internet: 73091 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 18626 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 16151 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 7585 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2475 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 76 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.5 Max AS path length visible: 17 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 8 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 16 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 1357811304 Equivalent to 80 /8s, 238 /16s and 142 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 36.6 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 59.2 Percentage of available address space allocated: 61.9 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 70601 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 30023 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 14602 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 28078 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 14488 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2176 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 647 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 332 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.5 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 168393472 Equivalent to 10 /8s, 9 /16s and 123 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 76.8 APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 23552-24575 APNIC Address Blocks 58/7, 60/7, 202/7, 210/7, 218/7, 220/7 and 222/8 ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 86261 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 52104 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 66033 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 23747 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 9767 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 3524 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 972 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 4.3 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 16 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 236478976 Equivalent to 14 /8s, 24 /16s and 98 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 70.5 ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647,29695-30719, 31744-33791 ARIN Address Blocks 24/8, 63/8, 64/6, 68/7, 70/7, 72/8, 198/7, 204/6, 208/7 and 216/8 RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 28565 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 19796 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 25446 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 16691 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 6109 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 3274 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1045 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.1 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 17 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 181889536 Equivalent to 10 /8s, 215 /16s and 106 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 63.8 RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-34815 RIPE Address Blocks 62/8, 80/5, 88/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/7, 212/7 and 217/8 LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 6779 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 2394 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 6606 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 4042 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 407 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 119 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 82 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 5.0 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 15 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 16878848 Equivalent to 1 /8s, 1 /16s and 141 /24s Percentage of available LACNIC address space announced: 50.3 LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671 LACNIC Address Blocks 200/7 Emerging AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 1243 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 697 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 844 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 676 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 94 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 21 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 12 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.5 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 12 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 2084096 Equivalent to 0 /8s, 31 /16s and 205 /24s Percentage of available AfriNIC address space announced: 12.4 AfriNIC AS Blocks <none> AfriNIC Address Blocks 196/8 APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 4134 863 4413 165 Data Communications Bureau 1221 796 1184 570 Telstra Pty Ltd 9583 567 47 37 Satyam Infoway Ltd., 4766 548 3409 270 Korea Internet Exchange for " 4755 415 142 79 Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Aut 17676 390 5852 60 XTAGE CORPORATION 9443 356 69 80 Primus Telecommunications 2907 354 1857 328 SINET Japan 9929 353 163 39 China Netcom Corp. 703 322 350 247 UUNET 17557 322 23 158 Pakistan Telecom 2764 286 272 232 connect.com.au pty ltd 7474 271 268 201 Optus Communications Pty Ltd 17974 249 62 10 PT TELEKOMUNIKASI INDONESIA 9800 232 381 71 CHINA UNICOM 4802 230 28 139 Wantree Development 9498 227 81 52 BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 7563 226 48 164 Korea Internet Infrastructure 4780 216 225 26 Digital United Inc. 10036 216 20 198 C&M Communication Co. Ltd. ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 7018 1429 6618 987 AT&T WorldNet Services 701 1069 8382 883 UUNET Technologies, Inc. 721 1045 21808 297 DLA Systems Automation Center 1239 931 2883 620 Sprint 2386 862 529 613 AT&T Data Communications Serv 6197 822 384 354 BellSouth Network Solutions, 4323 809 670 220 Time Warner Telecom 18566 755 208 6 Covad Communications 209 653 3422 508 Qwest 3356 644 10930 459 Level 3 Communications, LLC 20115 592 462 317 Charter Communications 3561 546 2369 415 Cable & Wireless USA 852 522 1142 404 Telus Advanced Communications 7843 481 726 92 Adelphia Corp. 6478 461 806 96 AT&T Worldnet Services 7132 452 8292 384 SBC Internet Services 6198 447 382 203 BellSouth Network Solutions, 27364 441 36 19 Armstrong Cable Services 5668 422 87 18 Century Telephone 22909 416 897 60 Comcast Cable Corporation RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 702 628 2023 519 UUNET - Commercial IP service 3320 305 2997 242 Deutsche Telekom AG 3301 279 1098 270 TeliaNet Sweden 8220 279 464 264 COLT Internet - International 21502 272 40 3 NUMERICABLE is a cabled netwo 680 251 2025 239 DFN-IP service G-WiN 3246 224 482 220 Song Networks 13083 217 51 8 Mannesmann Datenverarbeitung 1257 210 722 175 SWIPnet Swedish IP Network 8708 201 116 186 Romania Data Systems S.A. 5515 193 842 140 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 786 176 1794 176 The JANET IP Service 3215 172 990 75 France Telecom Transpac 6746 167 46 135 Dynamic Network Technologies, 8866 164 18 21 Bulgarian Telecommunication C 719 159 322 104 LANLINK autonomous system 3269 154 1329 68 TELECOM ITALIA 3300 154 165 78 AUCS Communications Services 25186 144 138 101 France Telecom Transpac's Tra 3303 132 611 128 Swisscom Ltd LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 6140 351 139 72 ImpSat 8151 311 471 137 UniNet S.A. de C.V. 16814 218 14 6 NSS, S.A. 11172 215 99 55 Servicios Alestra S.A de C.V 6147 190 92 21 Telefonica Del Peru 7303 173 66 26 Telecom Argentina Stet-France 11664 171 14 20 Keytech SA 6505 138 90 95 Global One Communicaoes Ltda 6503 128 148 85 AVANTEL, S.A. 11992 102 9 31 Integrated Systems 14117 98 6 4 Telefonica del Sur S.A. 11556 97 48 3 Cable-Wireless Panama 11311 86 8 23 Sinectis S.A. 14420 85 6 41 ANDINATEL S.A. 6535 84 7 25 Chilesat Servicios Empresari 13999 83 52 9 Mega Cable S.A. de C.V. 10481 82 32 7 Prima S.A. 4270 80 18 9 Red de Interconexion Universi 5639 77 8 8 Telecommunications Services o 15311 77 23 37 Telefonica Empresas AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 3741 269 636 226 The Internet Solution 5536 112 16 4 Internet Egypt Network 2018 102 297 98 Tertiary Education Network 2905 75 271 68 The Internetworking Company o 20928 55 16 2 Noor Advanced Technologies AS 24835 42 34 7 RAYA Telecom - Egypt 6713 34 38 9 Itissalat Al-MAGHRIB 9129 32 3 2 UUNET Kenya 5713 27 141 24 Telkom SA Ltd 8524 25 1 4 AUCEGYPT Autonomous System 12455 24 4 3 Jambonet Autonomous system 16637 22 10 19 Johnnic e-Ventures 10798 18 1 12 Standard Bank of South Africa 12258 18 3 12 Vodacom Internet Company 8452 17 20 5 TEDATA 21280 17 2 3 Swift Global Kenya Ltd.Is an 8346 15 7 14 SONATEL-AS Autonomous System 15706 15 4 2 Sudatel Internet Exchange Aut 21491 14 1 3 UTL On-line is RF broadband I 15808 13 1 2 Communication Solutions Ltd i Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 18566 755 749 Covad Communications 721 1045 748 DLA Systems Automation Center 4134 863 698 Data Communications Bureau 4323 809 589 Time Warner Telecom 9583 567 530 Satyam Infoway Ltd., 6197 822 468 BellSouth Network Solutions, 27364 441 422 Armstrong Cable Services 5668 422 404 Century Telephone 7843 481 389 Adelphia Corp. 22773 410 388 Cox Communications, Inc. Atla 6478 461 365 AT&T Worldnet Services 22909 416 356 Comcast Cable Corporation 6467 377 346 E.Spire Communications, Inc. 4755 415 336 Videsh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. Aut 17676 390 330 XTAGE CORPORATION 9929 353 314 China Netcom Corp. 1239 931 311 Sprint 13609 328 294 Choice One Communications Inc 4355 392 293 EarthLink, Inc. 376 399 285 Reseau Interordinateurs Scien List of Unregistered ASNs (Global) ---------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 1877 UNALLOCATED 192.108.199.0/24 1876 Southern Methodist U 64512 PRIVATE 199.213.17.0/25 15296 Netera Alliance Inc. 64512 PRIVATE 199.213.17.128/25 15296 Netera Alliance Inc. 64512 PRIVATE 199.216.97.0/28 15296 Netera Alliance Inc. 65002 PRIVATE 208.179.184.0/24 11509 The Pajo Group 65529 PRIVATE 216.21.199.0/24 14697 VDot.Net 65529 PRIVATE 216.152.237.0/24 14697 VDot.Net 65000 PRIVATE 217.68.56.0/22 29263 HAAGnet, municipalit Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 132.0.0.0/10 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 137.0.0.0/13 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 158.0.0.0/13 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 192.44.0.0/19 702 UUNET - Commercial IP service 192.70.164.0/24 25689 National Research Council of 192.83.16.0/20 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.83.32.0/19 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.83.96.0/22 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.83.100.0/24 5515 Sonera Solution Autonomous Sy 192.84.205.0/24 719 LANLINK autonomous system 192.119.135.0/24 270 NASA 192.135.50.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Services 192.136.79.0/24 719 LANLINK autonomous system 192.172.0.0/19 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 192.172.11.0/24 721 DLA Systems Automation Center 192.200.100.0/24 7018 AT&T WorldNet Services Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:19 /9:3 /10:7 /11:15 /12:59 /13:138 /14:313 /15:558 /16:8181 /17:2302 /18:4001 /19:9977 /20:10557 /21:8138 /22:11262 /23:13017 /24:83421 /25:267 /26:240 /27:124 /28:60 /29:40 /30:133 /31:0 /32:47 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 18566 740 755 Covad Communications 6197 668 822 BellSouth Network Solutions, 2386 629 862 AT&T Data Communications Serv 7018 583 1429 AT&T WorldNet Services 27364 427 441 Armstrong Cable Services 9583 397 567 Satyam Infoway Ltd., 702 384 628 UUNET - Commercial IP service 1239 370 931 Sprint 4766 368 548 Korea Internet Exchange for " 5668 365 422 Century Telephone 6198 326 447 BellSouth Network Solutions, 6467 287 377 E.Spire Communications, Inc. 13609 286 328 Choice One Communications Inc 9929 283 353 China Netcom Corp. 6517 281 304 Yipes Communications, Inc. 20115 271 592 Charter Communications 21502 269 272 NUMERICABLE is a cabled netwo 4323 259 809 Time Warner Telecom 11456 256 301 Carolina Online, Inc. 701 250 1069 UUNET Technologies, Inc. Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 4:4 8:10 12:1455 13:1 15:5 16:2 17:3 18:4 20:5 24:738 32:67 33:3 38:86 40:54 44:3 47:2 52:3 55:1 56:3 57:23 60:11 61:683 62:512 63:1848 64:2511 65:2080 66:2516 67:473 68:523 69:833 70:44 72:16 80:525 81:581 82:364 83:212 84:69 85:4 128:119 129:163 130:88 131:193 132:36 134:190 135:30 136:187 137:71 138:189 139:35 140:226 141:110 142:136 143:118 144:165 145:40 146:283 147:96 148:262 149:124 150:92 151:63 152:121 153:69 154:2 155:132 156:62 157:71 158:136 159:162 160:61 161:60 162:379 163:83 164:218 165:168 166:125 167:219 168:366 169:125 170:314 171:8 192:5669 193:2985 194:2213 195:1557 196:585 198:3899 199:3307 200:3937 201:30 202:5062 203:5864 204:3576 205:2097 206:2317 207:2587 208:2105 209:3073 210:1544 211:677 212:1171 213:1235 214:229 215:31 216:3735 217:1070 218:180 219:103 220:297 221:79 222:33 End of report

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Re: no whois info ?
by william(at)elan.net 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, kent crispin wrote: > > I disagree, I think this may be ok, but its specifically because its > > for .com/.net whois (not ok for general TLD). Reasons are: > > 1. Internic.net / CRSNIC whois has no limit set on number of queries > > client from particular ip can make before queries are denied (or > > it may have limit but its set very high) and its data is almost > > always available and quite fast (but there were some outages). > > Only works for .com and .net. Which is exactly what I said :) Nevertheless majority of the domains used (including very large number of spammer registered domains) are in .com/.net which is why I think this would be usefull greylisting technique (note that its not good idea for blacklisting unless data other then from whois is available!). I'm going to explore this weekend what it would take to take some of the code I have and make into the kind of library I described (this will require addition of specialized caching database, etc) and then if others are interested I'd like to get together with MTA and/or greylisting spamfilter developers to finish this all up. -- William Leibzon Elan Networks william(a)elan.net

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normally CFP's are off-topic for NANOG but this one's *about* us
by Paul Vixie 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Speaking for the program committee, I hope to see submissions from this crowd, as well as faces from this crowd at MIT in July. 'nuf said; read on: SRUTI 2005 Workshop Steps to Reducing Unwanted Traffic on the Internet Sponsored by USENIX http://www.research.att.com/~bala/sruti July 7-8, 2005 MIT, Stata Center, Cambridge, MA, USA. The Internet is under increasing attacks with unwanted traffic in the form of spam, distributed denial of service, virus, worms, etc. Unwanted traffic on the Internet has manifested itself as attacks on many protocols (IP, TCP, DNS, BGP, and HTTP) and popular applications (e.g., Email, Web). Recently, attacks combining multiple exploits have become common. Many solutions have been proposed for specific attacks, some of which have had limited success. SRUTI seeks research on the unwanted traffic problem that looks across the protocol stack, examines attack commonalities, and investigates how various solutions interact and whether they can be combined to increase security. Original research, promising ideas, and steps towards practical solutions at all levels are sought. We look for ideas in networking and systems, and insights from other areas such as databases, data mining, and economics. SRUTI aims to bring academic and industrial research communities together with those who face the problems at the operational level. SRUTI 2005 will be a one and a half day event. Each session chair will play the role of a discussant and present a summary of the papers in the session and a state-of-the-art synopsis of the topic. The workshop will be highly interactive, with substantial time devoted to questions and answers. Submissions must contribute to improving the current understanding of unwanted traffic and/or suggestions to reducing it. The proceedings of the workshop will be published. Relevant topics include: * Architectural solutions to the unwanted traffic problem. * Scientific assessment of the spread and danger of the attacks * Practical countermeasures to various aspects of unwanted traffic (Spam, DoS, worms,...) * Cross-layer solutions and solutions to combination attacks * Attacks on emerging technologies (e.g., sensors, VOIP, PDAs) and their countermeasures * Privacy and anonymity * Intrusion avoidance, detection, and response * Virus, worms, and other malicious code * Analysis of protocols and systems vulnerabilities * Handling errors/misconfigurations that might lead to unwanted traffic * Attacks on specific distributed systems or network technologies (e.g., P2P, wireless networks) * Data mining with application to unwanted traffic * New types of solutions: incentive-based, economic, statistical, collaborative, etc. Program Committee Paul Barford, University of Wisconsin Steven M. Bellovin, AT&T Labs--Research Herve Debar, France Telecom R&D Mark Handley, University College London Dina Katabi, MIT Balachander Krishnamurthy, AT&T Labs--Research Doug Maughan, U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security Chris Morrow, UUNET Vern Paxson, ICIR/ICSI Dawn Song, Carnegie Mellon University Paul Vixie, ISC Steering Committee Dina Katabi, MIT. Balachander Krishnamurthy, AT&T Labs--Research. Deadlines Submission deadline: March 30, 2005 (11:59 PM EST, HARD) Acceptance notification: May 3, 2005. Final papers due: May 23, 2005. Workshop: July 7-8, 2005. Submissions All submissions must be in English, must include a title and the authors' names and affiliations. Submissions should be no more than six (6) pages long, and submitted in Postscript or PDF only. Each submission should have a contact author who should provide full contact information (e-mail, phone, fax, mailing address). One author of each accepted paper will be required to present the work at the workshop. For uptodate Web page please see http://www.research.att.com/~bala/sruti

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test please disregard
by rwcrowe＠comcast.net 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

-- Rob Crowe rwcrowe(a)comcast.net

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The Cidr Report
by cidr-report＠potaroo.net 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

This report has been generated at Fri Dec 10 21:40:00 2004 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date Prefixes CIDR Agg 03-12-04 149527 103159 04-12-04 672049850 103159 05-12-04 672118764 103159 06-12-04 -1077937252 103159 07-12-04 -1077936760 103159 08-12-04 672037797 103159 09-12-04 -1077937324 103159 10-12-04 134555056 103159 AS Summary 0 Number of ASes in routing system 0 Number of ASes announcing only one prefix 1405 Largest number of prefixes announced by an AS AS7018 : ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 0 Largest address span announced by an AS (/32s) pÐ( : Aggregation Summary The algorithm used in this report proposes aggregation only when there is a precise match using the AS path, so as to preserve traffic transit policies. Aggregation is also proposed across non-advertised address space ('holes'). --- 10Dec04 --- ASnum NetsNow NetsAggr NetGain % Gain Description Table 149527 103159 46368 31.0% All ASes AS18566 754 6 748 99.2% CVAD Covad Communications AS4134 831 179 652 78.5% CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street AS4323 807 228 579 71.7% TWTC Time Warner Telecom AS7018 1405 994 411 29.3% ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services AS27364 444 33 411 92.6% ARMC Armstrong Cable Services AS22773 405 20 385 95.1% CXA Cox Communications Inc. AS6197 806 429 377 46.8% BNS-14 BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS701 1226 881 345 28.1% UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. AS22909 415 87 328 79.0% CMCS Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. AS1239 934 623 311 33.3% SPRN Sprint AS9929 340 34 306 90.0% CNCNET-CN China Netcom Corp. AS17676 382 78 304 79.6% JPNIC-JP-ASN-BLOCK Japan Network Information Center AS7843 478 177 301 63.0% ADELPH-13 Adelphia Corp. AS4355 384 99 285 74.2% ERSD EARTHLINK, INC AS6478 435 156 279 64.1% ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services AS21502 273 3 270 98.9% ASN-NUMERICABLE NUMERICABLE is a cabled network in France, AS4766 531 268 263 49.5% KIXS-AS-KR Korea Telecom AS14654 262 6 256 97.7% WAYPOR-3 Wayport AS9443 362 113 249 68.8% INTERNETPRIMUS-AS-AP Primus Telecommunications AS15557 371 126 245 66.0% LDCOMNET LDCOM NETWORKS AS6140 373 131 242 64.9% IMPSA ImpSat AS721 1039 803 236 22.7% DNIC DoD Network Information Center AS25844 244 17 227 93.0% SASMFL-2 Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP AS2386 847 622 225 26.6% ADCS-1 AT&T Data Communications Services AS1221 790 567 223 28.2% ASN-TELSTRA Telstra Pty Ltd AS6198 434 221 213 49.1% BNS-14 BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc AS4814 210 6 204 97.1% CHINA169-BBN CNCGROUP IP network¡ªChina169 Beijing Broadband Network AS5668 417 213 204 48.9% CIH-12 CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc. AS9583 554 358 196 35.4% SIFY-AS-IN Sify Limited AS15270 232 38 194 83.6% PDP-14 PaeTec.net -a division of PaeTecCommunications, Inc. Total 16985 7516 9469 55.7% Top 30 total Possible Bogus Routes 24.138.80.0/20 AS11260 AHSICHCL Andara High Speed Internet c/o Halifax Cable Ltd. 24.246.0.0/17 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 24.246.38.0/24 AS25994 NPGCAB NPG Cable, INC 24.246.128.0/18 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 64.17.0.0/18 AS174 COGENT Cogent/PSI 64.17.32.0/24 AS5024 BRIDGE-75 BridgeNet, LC 64.17.33.0/24 AS5024 BRIDGE-75 BridgeNet, LC 64.17.37.0/24 AS5024 BRIDGE-75 BridgeNet, LC 64.46.27.0/24 AS8674 NETNOD-IX Netnod Internet Exchange Sverige AB 64.57.160.0/19 AS3561 SAVVI-3 Savvis 64.92.128.0/19 AS3561 SAVVI-3 Savvis 64.127.0.0/18 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 64.209.192.0/18 AS3561 SAVVI-3 Savvis 69.26.32.0/19 AS17307 VIRTEL-15 Virtela Communications 132.0.0.0/10 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 137.0.0.0/13 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 138.136.0.0/13 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 158.0.0.0/13 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 192.30.93.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.94.0/24 AS17757 HPAUS-AP HP Australia 192.30.127.0/24 AS719 ELISA-AS Elisa Oyj 192.40.105.0/24 AS5515 SONERA-GLOBAL-IP Sonera Solution Autonomous System 192.44.0.0/19 AS702 AS702 MCI EMEA - Commercial IP service provider in Europe 192.70.164.0/24 AS25689 NRCC-2 National Research Council of Canada 192.81.182.0/24 AS719 ELISA-AS Elisa Oyj 192.81.183.0/24 AS719 ELISA-AS Elisa Oyj 192.81.184.0/24 AS719 ELISA-AS Elisa Oyj 192.119.135.0/24 AS270 NASA National Aeronautics and Space Administration 192.124.252.0/22 AS680 DFN-IP service G-WiN 192.133.6.0/24 AS4004 GLOBALONE-EQUANT-UK Equant UK & Greece Autonomous System 192.135.50.0/24 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 192.153.144.0/21 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 192.172.0.0/19 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 192.188.208.0/20 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 192.243.32.0/23 AS2044 PALINA Palin Aquisitions Inc. 196.2.95.0/24 AS8668 TELONE-AS TelOne Zimbabwe P/L 198.23.26.0/24 AS4390 BELLAT-7 Bell Atlantic, Inc. 198.97.72.0/21 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 198.97.80.0/20 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 198.97.88.0/24 AS89 NUSC-1 Naval Underwater Systems Center 198.97.240.0/20 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 198.97.247.0/24 AS3475 DEPART-52 Department of the Navy 198.101.4.0/22 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 198.136.32.0/20 AS19329 MCBCC Martin County Board of County Commissioners 198.144.32.0/19 AS3998 CITY CityNet, Inc. 198.161.87.0/24 AS6539 GTGR GT Group Telecom Services Corp. 198.161.165.0/24 AS852 AGTA Telus Advanced Communications 198.163.155.0/24 AS684 MRN Manitoba Regional Network 198.167.0.0/16 AS7456 INS-51 Interhop Network SERVICES Inc. 198.167.163.0/24 AS15290 ACCA-2 Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 198.168.0.0/16 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 198.169.0.0/16 AS803 SASK SaskTel 198.232.133.0/24 AS23075 SKOTOS Skotos Tech, Inc 199.10.0.0/16 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.60.0.0/20 AS271 UBC-3 University of British Columbia 199.96.44.0/23 AS19092 360NE-1 360Networks (USA) Inc. 199.96.46.0/24 AS19092 360NE-1 360Networks (USA) Inc. 199.114.0.0/18 AS568 DISOUN DISO-UNRRA 199.114.0.0/21 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.128.0/18 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.130.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.132.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.134.0/24 AS3541 DISAUN DISA/UNRRA 199.114.136.0/24 AS27044 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.138.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.140.0/24 AS3544 DISAUN DISA/UNRRA 199.114.142.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.144.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.148.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.150.0/24 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.152.0/24 AS27033 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.154.0/24 AS1733 ADP-41 AF DDN PMO 199.114.156.0/24 AS27034 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.114.160.0/24 AS1733 ADP-41 AF DDN PMO 199.120.32.0/19 AS16582 NXLI NEXTLEVEL INTERNET, INC. 199.121.0.0/16 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.123.0.0/18 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.123.16.0/20 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.123.80.0/21 AS721 DNIC DoD Network Information Center 199.189.32.0/19 AS7332 IQUEST IQuest Internet 199.197.8.0/22 AS21814 PARSON-18 Parsons Corp. 199.202.0.0/16 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 202.70.28.0/24 AS4515 ERX-STAR Star Internet Services Ltd. 202.72.68.0/24 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.72.69.0/24 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.72.70.0/24 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.72.71.0/24 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.72.72.0/21 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.72.72.0/24 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.72.73.0/24 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.72.75.0/24 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.72.76.0/24 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.72.78.0/24 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.72.79.0/24 AS17433 PHILWEB-AP PhilWeb.Com, Inc. 202.73.128.0/22 AS4058 LINKAGENET-AP CPCNet Hong Kong Ltd. 202.93.0.0/20 AS4134 CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street 202.164.224.0/19 AS7599 IPXC-AS-AP IP Exchange 203.32.4.0/23 AS7617 TELEONE-HK TeleTeleOne (HK) Limited 203.62.0.0/17 AS7572 AARNET-ACT-RNO Australian Academic and Reasearch Network (AARNet) 203.99.0.0/19 AS17746 ORCONINTERNET-NZ-AP Orcon Internet 203.170.14.0/23 AS6648 ASN-SKYINTERNET Autonomous System Number peering of Sky Internet - BAYANTEL Inc. - Philppines 203.210.69.0/24 AS17536 PRODIGY-AS-AP Prodidgy Telecommunications 204.154.125.0/24 AS3952 TELLAB-1 TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.126.0/24 AS3952 TELLAB-1 TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.154.127.0/24 AS3952 TELLAB-1 TELLABS Operations, Inc. 204.194.110.0/23 AS30653 EXOBI Exobit Networks Inc. 205.150.0.0/15 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 206.29.168.0/21 AS10248 IPI Internet Partners, Inc. 206.128.104.0/21 AS11709 VIIN VIRTUAL INTERACTIVE CENTER 206.167.57.0/24 AS376 RISQR-3 Reseau Interordinateurs Scientique Quebecois (RISQ) 206.191.64.0/18 AS15290 ACCA-2 Allstream Corp. Corporation Allstream 206.253.190.0/23 AS8123 POLYBA Polybase 207.47.254.0/24 AS701 UU UUNET Technologies, Inc. 207.231.96.0/19 AS11194 NUNETI NuNet Inc 208.81.187.0/24 AS19194 SNL-8 Sentris Network LLC 208.138.48.0/20 AS7955 SOURCE-48 SourceNet Corporation 209.17.71.0/24 AS32272 CLEAR-17 ClearSkye Communications Inc 209.17.79.0/24 AS32272 CLEAR-17 ClearSkye Communications Inc 209.17.80.0/24 AS32272 CLEAR-17 ClearSkye Communications Inc 209.27.51.0/24 AS14132 INTERN-582 Internet Gateway Inc. 209.172.0.0/18 AS7770 TRTI Triton Technologies, Inc. 209.205.69.0/24 AS21578 Universidad autonoma de Bucaramanga 209.205.70.0/24 AS21578 Universidad autonoma de Bucaramanga 209.205.81.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.82.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.205.84.0/24 AS15066 SkyNet de Colombia S.A. 209.213.32.0/19 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.48.0/24 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.49.0/24 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.213.50.0/24 AS10629 INS-52 Inter-Pacific Network Services 209.251.0.0/19 AS11036 SISCOM-1 SISCOM, Inc 216.37.110.0/23 AS4264 CERFN California Education and Research Federation Network 216.96.128.0/18 AS7018 ATTW AT&T WorldNet Services 216.145.156.0/24 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.145.158.0/24 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.145.176.0/21 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.145.177.0/24 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.145.178.0/24 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.145.184.0/21 AS10758 INWAVE INWave Internet, Inc 216.145.184.0/24 AS10758 INWAVE INWave Internet, Inc 216.145.185.0/24 AS10758 INWAVE INWave Internet, Inc 216.145.186.0/24 AS10758 INWAVE INWave Internet, Inc 216.145.187.0/24 AS10758 INWAVE INWave Internet, Inc 216.145.188.0/24 AS10758 INWAVE INWave Internet, Inc 216.145.189.0/24 AS10758 INWAVE INWave Internet, Inc 216.145.190.0/24 AS10758 INWAVE INWave Internet, Inc 216.145.191.0/24 AS10758 INWAVE INWave Internet, Inc 216.145.200.0/21 AS20304 JIS-32 JVLNET Internet Services 216.168.64.0/19 AS174 COGENT Cogent/PSI 216.171.96.0/20 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.151.0/24 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.152.0/21 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.160.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.164.0/22 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.192.0/22 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.198.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications 216.186.248.0/23 AS3356 LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications Please see http://www.cidr-report.org for the full report ------------------------------------ Copies of this report are mailed to: nanog(a)merit.edu eof-list(a)ripe.net apops(a)apops.net routing-wg(a)ripe.net afnog(a)afnog.org swinog(a)swinog.ch

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Need Help finding support for specific technology with SONET gear
by Jack Bates 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Please CC me in all replies or reply offlist if not appropriate for list. I am trying to find equipment for an OC48+ ring for hauling DS3s. I've read lots of documentation on handling fiber failures and repathing the circuits the other direction on the ring. I know a lot of providers will sell half the OC48 as protected and the other half as unprotected, fiber cuts resulting in the unprotected circuits all being taken down for the protected circuits. But I need something a little different. I need something that will detect LOS on a single DS3 and repath that DS3 to a different port at a remote location. While not the cleanest transition, it will handle catastrophic failure of edge router configurations by redirecting circuits to a different location where routing is mirrored (and down until signaling is established). I also need something that will support transitioning all circuits leaving the ring at one location to another when communication is lost with that site. I can't imagine that someone hasn't done this, but I can't find any information on it. I'm not very familiar with SONET (a little lower level than I usually deal with) or what various vendors support. My telco boys tell me that their existing gear won't handle repathing single DS3's when they alarm; only fiber cuts. In addition, it would be nice if returning to the primary path can be manual or configured to wait a specified time interval to insure stability (nothing like equipment which likes to bring circuits up twice before resuming service). Hints, tips, and tricks welcome. I have certain edge routers that I need to ensure availability even during catastrophic failure without requiring each of the customers on those routers to maintain separate circuits. Thanks, Jack Bates

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DNS Timeout Errors
by Jay Fenello 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Is anyone else experiencing DNS timeout errors. I've tried using multiple name resolvers, and tested multiple domain names using different name servers, and I keep getting "name not found" errors. Trying the same domain name a second time, and it resolves ok. This all started a few days ago. Any insights ??? Jay. +++ Jay Fenello, 678-585-9765 http://www.Fenello.com ... Startup Coaching http://www.YourWebPartner.com ... Website Partnering http://www.AligningWithPurpose.org ... For a Better World --------------------------------------------------------- "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." -- Dr. Albert Einstein

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drone army on the move, anyone wanna help out?
by Gadi Evron 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Hi guys. I figured I might as well ping, as I do once a year on different forums since `96, and send some information here asking for help. The following drone army seems to be on the move, switching binary and relay server, which is why I allow myself to post it openly. Anyone seeing any connections to http:// 69.31.79.116 /b .dat (unsafe url! spaces added by me), or machines going to IRC/ 204.180.195.166:7000 ? Once I see the interest level, I may post such information in the future. Thanks for your assistance, Gadi.

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