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Google Said..... Was: RE: London incidents
by Hannigan, Martin 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of > Steve Sobol > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:25 PM > To: North American Networking & Offtopic Gripes > Subject: Re: London incidents > > > > Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > I think the world has shown that cellphones have been used > over and over > > to detonate explosive devices. Why wait for it to be proved again > > before doing something? AFAIK "Emergency Only" mode allows for 911 > > calls, > > And means nothing if power is cut to the cell sites and you > can't connect to > anything. Emergency mode only works where there is a signal. Good points. And thanks for not saying "Google said...". Independant sources are not listed in google. :-). [ObSecOp: FWIW, you can google how a cell phone can be used as a detonator and it does tend to demonstrate some thought on controlling cell signals as security policy...THAT is a good use for google.. -M< ] ObTechnoPoliButOffTopic: If the UK GOV makes a tacit denial of such an event that would hold more[1] credibility than them pointing at others saying they didn't do it. [1] Slightly more, depending upon how high up. -M<

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ICANN warns world of domain hijacking
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

Via the ICANN website: "The Domain Name Hijacking Report was commissioned in response to both highly publicized hijacking events and a number of lesser publicized events. The SSAC found that domain name hijacking incidents are commonly the result of flaws in registration and related processes, failure to comply with the transfer policy and poor administration of domain names. The report recommends ten key actions including implementation of improved auditing and compliance measures, and additional measures to protect registration information from misuse by would-be hijackers, as well as implementation of emergency procedures to assist in the urgent restoration of a domain name." http://www.icann.org/announcements/hijacking-report-12jul05.pdf - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(a)netzero.net or fergdawg(a)sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

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RE: London incidents
by Hannigan, Martin 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Donelan [mailto:sean@donelan.com] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:50 PM > To: Hannigan, Martin > Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: RE: London incidents > > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote: > > > All this while I was trying unsuccessfully to use my > > > mobile to ring the office. > > > > Some cell relays were temporarily shut to prevent a remote > > detonation of additional explosives. Cellular remotes seem > > to be a favorite of Al Qaeda and others. > > UK Government officials deny they shutdown any cell phone service. And?

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Cable cutting suspect arrested
by Sean Donelan 13 Jul '05

13 Jul '05

Chelmsford suspect on the hook in cable-cutting case By Jessica Fargen Tuesday, July 12, 2005 A Chelmsford man allegedly tried to get rich in a snip by cutting Verizon and Comcast phone lines, then tried to get the companies to pay him to stop, prosecutors say. http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=93434

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Re: London incidents
by sthaug＠nethelp.no 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

> I think the world has shown that cellphones have been used over and over > to detonate explosive devices. Why wait for it to be proved again > before doing something? The logical conclusion to that line of thought would seem to be that all cell phone services should be turned off in all densely populated areas. Is this really what we want? (It's certainly not what *I* want.) Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug(a)nethelp.no

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Re: London incidents
by Fergie (Paul Ferguson) 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

"I'm with stupid." ;-) - ferg -- Todd Vierling <tv(a)duh.org> wrote: On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > >Since the news this morning reported that service had been restored, > >one could assume it had been turned off. > > Partially restored: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/12/nyregion/12cell.html And as is commonplace with this kind of gross technology botch, everybody's pointing his finger in the direction of "the guy on my left".

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PacSec/core05 Call For Papers
by Dragos Ruiu 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

English url: http://pacsec.jp/speakers.html?LANG=ENGLISH Japanese url: http://pacsec.jp/speakers.html?LANG=JAPANESE PacSec/core05 CALL FOR PAPERS World Security Pros To Converge on Japan November 15/16 TOKYO, Japan -- To address the increasing importance of information security in Japan, the best known figures in the international security industry will get together with leading Japanese researchers to share best practices and technology. The most significant new discoveries about computer network hack attacks and defenses will be presented at the third annual PacSec conference. The PacSec/core05 meeting provides an opportunity for foreign specialists to be exposed to Japanese innovation and markets, and to collaborate on practical solutions to computer security issues. In a relaxed setting with a mixture of material bilingually translated into both English and Japanese, the eminent technologists can socialize and attend training sessions. Announcing the opportunity to submit papers for the third annual PacSec/core05 network security training conference. The conference will be held November 15/16th in Tokyo at the Aoyama Diamond Hall. The conference focuses on emerging information security tutorials - it will be a bridge between the international and Japanese information security technology communities. Please make your paper proposal submissions before Aug 1 2005. Slides for the papers must be submitted by October 1st 2005. The conference is November 15th and 16th 2005, presenters need to be available in the days before to meet with interpreters. Some invited papers have been confirmed, but a limited number of speaking slots are still available. The conference is responsible for travel and accomodations for the speakers. If you have a proposal for a tutorial session then please email a synopsis of the material and your biography, papers and, speaking background to core05(a)pacsec.jp. Tutorials are one hour in length, but with simultaneous translation should be approximately 45 minutes in English, or Japanese. Only slides will be needed for the October paper deadline, full text does not have to be submitted. The PacSec/core05 conference consists of tutorials on technical details about current issues, innovative techniques and best practices in the information security realm. The audiences are a multi-national mix of professionals involved on a daily basis with security work: security product vendors, programmers, security officers, and network administrators. We give preference to technical details and new education for a technical audience. The conference itself is a single track series of presentations in a lecture theater environment. The presentations offer speakers the opportunity to showcase on-going research and collaborate with peers while educating and highlighting advancements in security products and techniques. The focus is on innovation, tutorials, and education instead of product pitches. Some commercial content is tolerated, but it needs to be backed up by a technical presenter - either giving a valuable tutorial and best practices instruction or detailing significant new technology in the products. Paper proposals should consist of the following information: 1) Presenter, and geographical location (country of origin/passport) and contact info (e-mail, postal address, phone, fax). 2) Employer and/or affiliations. 3) Brief biography, list of publications and papers. 4) Any significant presentation and educational experience/background. 5) Topic synopsis, Proposed paper title, and a one paragraph description. 6) Reason why this material is innovative or significant or an important tutorial. 7) Optionally, any samples of prepared material or outlines ready. Please forward the above information to core05(a)pacsec.jp to be considered for placement on the speaker roster. cheers, --dr -- World Security Pros. Cutting Edge Training, Tools, and Techniques Tokyo, Japan November 15/16 2005 http://pacsec.jp pgpkey http://dragos.com/ kyxpgp

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Clueful security contact at Adelphia?
by Howard C. Berkowitz 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

Could someone at Adelphia, who understands there is a difference between newsgroup trolling and newsgroup denial of service, contact me offline? Thanks! -- Howard C. Berkowitz 5012 25th Street South Arlington VA 22206 (703)998-5819 voice (703)998-5058 fax (alas, sometimes poorly operated by "helpful" cat)

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Re: London incidents
by Francesco Usseglio Gaudi 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

My little experience is that cell phones are in the most of cases nearly congenstion: a simple crow of people calling all together can shut down or delay every calls and sms Francesco

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2005 SC Elections
by Betty Burke 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

Reminder -- NANOG Steering Committee elections begin today. If you have not verified your email address, please refer to <http://www.nanog.org/elections.html> for details. We look forward to the first NANOG elections process! All best, Betty Burke

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