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RE: ICANN
by Keith Medcalf 09 Jul '22

09 Jul '22

On Friday, 8 July, 2022 19:02, Karl Auerbach <karl(a)cavebear.com> said: >Spammers are a scourge and I hope you get that $trilliion. But ICANN >will fairly easily deflect most legal efforts based on a claim that >ICANN bears responsibility. Years ago I proposed a solution from King >Croesus as described by Herodotus: to drag each ill doer over a bed of >wool cards, but it seems to have fallen flat as perhaps too extreme for >modern sensibilities. ;-) Of course ICANN will be able to deflect the use of their name by the other co-defendant for the purposes of threatening to interfere with the economic benefit of a contract (even though the co-defendant is the one issuing the threat of economic interference). I am not interested in ICANN, per se. It is, however, within the realm of possibility that the non-ICANN co-defendant is correct in their assertion that the liable party is ICANN. If ICANN is not the snivilling guilty party, then they will, of course, be found such by the court. It would be perspicacious for them, however, to ensure that they "go after" the organization using their name is vain, as it were. Since they have not done so, they will not be saved their costs. -- (CAUTION) You are advised that if you attack my person or property, you will be put down in accordance with the provisions of section 34 & 35 of the Criminal Code respectively. If you are brandishing (or in possession) of a weapon then lethal force will be applied to your person in accordance with the law. This means that your misadventures may end in your death. Consider yourself cautioned and govern your actions appropriately.

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Any admins for Yahoo mail here?
by Milt Aitken 09 Jul '22

09 Jul '22

Big customer cannot exchange email with yahoo either way. Error message is ambiguous. No joy through the usual channels. If there's a yahoo admin here, please contact me off list. Thanks Milt Aitken Net2Atlanta

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Mystery MAC address
by JoeSox 08 Jul '22

08 Jul '22

Hello, I have something I have never seen before and was wondering if anyone in the community has seen something like this? So some active directory accounts are getting locked intermittently and I had to do some sniffing and I have an IP address showing up in a non-used subnet 10.1.2.x And it shows an unrecognized MAC address. This virtual machine is in a Nutanix environment. I am trying to figure this out without bringing in paid outside help. Thanks in advance for any responses. c2:ea:e4:c5:57:e6 is the MAC in question. I don't fully understand this request. 10.1.2.18 is the mystery ip that doesn't ping, 10.1.3.9 is the DC. AD Audit provides nonexistent machines making the requests and even blank. "User account 'Administrator' was locked from computer ''." [image: image.png] -- Thank You, Joe

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Re: Rogers Outage Canada
by Clayton Zekelman 08 Jul '22

08 Jul '22

The E911 network in Ontario and Quebec is run by Bell Canada. The PSAPs may have non-emergency lines that are provided by other carriers. At 03:56 PM 08/07/2022, Andrew Paolucci via NANOG wrote: >I believe the call centers run by law enforcement and municipalities >in the GTA are mostly homed on single providers, I know some Bell >and Telus users in certain areas are still able to reach emergency services. > > >Regards, > >Andrew Paolucci > > > > > -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409

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Re: Rogers Outage Canada
by Clayton Zekelman 08 Jul '22

08 Jul '22

Why not? If the SS7 is encapsulated in IP... (think SIGTRAN). At 03:30 PM 08/07/2022, jim deleskie wrote: >i cant see BGP taking out SS7. > >-jim > -- Clayton Zekelman Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E Windsor, Ontario N8W 1H4 tel. 519-985-8410 fax. 519-985-8409

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CHI-NOG 10 - Call for Presentations (CfP)
by Tom Kacprzynski 08 Jul '22

08 Jul '22

*CHI-NOG 10 – (Chicago Network Operators Group)* *October 6th, 2022 in Chicago, IL* The Chicago Network Operators Group (CHI-NOG) is a vendor neutral organization. Our goal is to create a regional community of network professionals by presenting the latest technology trends, enabling collaboration and providing networking opportunities. CHI-NOG will be hosting its tenth annual conference on October 6th, 2022 in downtown Chicago. For more information on the conference please see the event's page ( http://chinog.org/chi-nog-10/) The CHI-NOG Program Committee is seeking proposals for presentations on relevant networking technologies with the *focus on the following topics*: - Network Automation / DevOps / CI-CD / Python - Edge Computing and Edge Networking - Interconnection/Peering - 5G Mobile Networks - BGP Security (RPKI) - Open Networking - Overlay Networking Technologies - Low Latency Networks / Financial Networks - Network Security / DDoS - Academic Research in Networking and Related Infrastructure Fields - Network Verification - Internet Monitoring - AI in Network Analytics - Advanced BGP/MPLS Technologies - Optical Networking/Data Center Interconnect - Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) - Software Defined Networking (SDN) - Network Traffic Engineering (TE) - Data Center Fabric - Tutorials *Session Format* Each presentation is 30 minutes, which includes a question and answer time. The duration can be extended per individual request to 60 minutes and will be considered by the program committee. Presentations should not contain any marketing material and should avoid discussion of commercial products but rather focus on the underlying technology in a vendor neutral matter. *Key Dates* 2022-07-07 – Call For Presentation (CFP) 2022-08-16 – Presentation Abstract Submission Deadline 2022-08-27 – Program Committee’s Selection Decision and Agenda Published 2022-09-26 – Full Presentation Slides Submission Deadline 2022-10-06 – Conference *Submission* Please submit presentation’s abstract proposal by filling out the submission form at http://chinog.org/chi-nog-10/abstract-submission/ . Once your presentation is selected please provide the program committee with your photo and a short bio for web publication. All accepted speakers will receive complimentary tickets to the conference. For past presentation please see the archives at <http://chinog.org/presentation-archive/> https://www.youtube.com/user/chicagonog/videos <http://chinog.org/presentation-archive/>The program committee is looking forward to your submission and attendance.

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by Nanog News 08 Jul '22

08 Jul '22

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EVPN-VXLAN Service Types
by Graham Johnston 07 Jul '22

07 Jul '22

Good day, NANOG. I'm at the front end of an expected implementation of EVPN-VXLAN as the primary method to shift a network that is largely based on traditional Ethernet switching and spanning-tree to one that attempts to route traffic as often as possible, and where we want to separate the physical topology from the logical services. We are selecting EVPN-VXLAN as it seems to inherently provide for the Network Virtualization Overlay function, as well as routing since the entire underlay will be routed. As part of all the reading we are doing, and lab testing that is just about to commence, I'm trying to weigh the options around VLAN-based services and VLAN-aware bundle services. I know that the options aren't mutually exclusive, and that I can mix and match, at least I expect that this to be an option. In case it matters, our implementation will initially involve VTEPs based on a mix of Juniper QFX5100, QFX5110, QFX5120, and EX4650 switches, as well as MX. Yes, I do recognize the RIOT capabilities that aren't present in the QFX5100. From a basic FIB standpoint, we do believe that we are well below the quote limits in terms of hosts, routes, etc. I do believe that we've effectively weighed the use of VXLAN over MPLS. We currently believe that our use cases don't require some of the more advanced features and control knobs available in MPLS. We are also pragmatic and are trying to use the equipment that we have. We believe that the Trident ASICs in our devices are likely better suited for VXLAN than MPLS, despite the glossy datasheets quoting support for various MPLS features. Feel free to comment on this. For internal use, I can see the VLAN-aware bundles as advantageous to group all our own services together in a single MAC-VRF, treat ourselves as a tenant. I'm not clear yet if I should be concerned or not about each switch that is involved in this EVI having to populate all entries into FIB. Our own use cases are likely of a small enough scale that it wouldn't matter in comparison to the positive outcomes. As for customer use cases, I can't yet see an advantage to VLAN-aware bundles as our customers don't interact with multiple VLANs where those individual VLANs are terminating on individual VTEP ports. The customer use cases feel more like a traditional Q-in-Q type activity that has us treating them as single outer VLAN, and thus the VLAN-based service seems more appropriate. I'm flat out ignoring the middle ground option of VLAN-bundle service as I can't see anything that seems compelling compared to the other two. I know there is bunch that I don't know here. Am I focusing on the right two choices of the three service types? Do organizations regularly use both two that I am focusing on? How do you decide between the two models when provisioning an EVI? What gotchas await me with the Juniper equipment, or the Trident ASICs, that just aren't spelled out in the documentation? Answers to these questions and anything else you have to offer is appreciated. Thanks in advance, Graham

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Contact at GoDaddy?
by Anne Mitchell 07 Jul '22

07 Jul '22

Sigh, Ben (RIP) used to be our main contact at GoDaddy for security issues. (Also for spam issues.) Does anybody have a contact anywhere within GoDaddy to whom they could introduce me? Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) Author: The Email Deliverability Handbook Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange Dean Emeritus, Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School Prof. Emeritus, Lincoln Law School Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop Counsel Emeritus, eMail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)

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Re: Carrier Options in Bogota
by Manny Vivar 07 Jul '22

07 Jul '22

MediaCommerce has significant fiber and one of the largest networks within Colombia (not known to many outside of Colombia but those who operate in Colombia know them) and has good eyeball traffic within the country. They keep it local to not boomerang bank to Miami like many. They just installed a 100G POP in our new Tier IV data center in North Bogota, Colombia if you wish to connect with them let me know I can put you in contact with them. __ Manny Vivar HostDime Global Operations manny.v(a)hostdime.com <mailto:manny.v@hostdime.com> Mobile & WhatsApp: 407.467.2053 Skype: HostDime HostDime Global Corp. | www.hostdime.com <applewebdata://957C3374-181A-408B-BD20-C60548BC2CAB/www.hostdime.com> This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. > On Jul 2, 2022, at 8:00 AM, nanog-request(a)nanog.org wrote: > > Send NANOG mailing list submissions to > nanog(a)nanog.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nanog-request(a)nanog.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nanog-owner(a)nanog.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NANOG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Carrier Options in Bogota (nanoguser99) > 2. Re: Carrier Options in Bogota (Max Tulyev) > 3. Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report > (Routing Table Analysis Role Account) > 4. Re: Carrier Options in Bogota (John Todd) > 5. Re: Carrier Options in Bogota (Rubens Kuhl) > 6. Re: Carrier Options in Bogota (nanoguser99) > 7. Carrier Options in Bogota (Joel Jaeggli) > 8. Annoyed at that change that ARIN made? (fwd: Only One Week > Left for Submitting Nominations) (John Curran) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2022 13:47:28 +0000 > From: nanoguser99 <nanoguser99(a)protonmail.com> > To: "nanog(a)nanog.org list" <nanog(a)nanog.org> > Subject: Carrier Options in Bogota > Message-ID: > <mjXTGh1XwqDO0qLoLb9gQX6bwt9OBWsTbbZMcM2D_OaL0lZfDk9rbFeYisY9CzPOvcQX9FAr0ABgLKGgtTymRomq-qfpUBRIGrwt6j-kkI8=(a)protonmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Nanog, > > I need good connectivity to local eyeball networks there. I've explored Cogent, Lumen, and a local clled Telxius and results are all over the map. Is there a provider that's 'well peered' with all the locals? Hoping this formats correctly but here's the results of ping tests on various looking glasses to prefixes of the various locals. > > Local Carriers IP Prefix Telxius Lumen Cogent > COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES S.A. ESP 152.200.0.0/14 22.025 ms 164ms 115 ms > Telmex Colombia S.A. (Claro) 190.144.0.0/14 14.319 ms 63ms 115 ms > Empresas P?blicas de Medell?n E.S.P. 201.220.30.0/23 94.264 ms 126 ms 102 ms > Movistar Colombia 186.116.14.0/24 38.894 ms 193ms 118 ms > ETB - Colombia 186.154.0.0/16 5.340 ms 130ms 2.21 ms > Columbus Networks Colombia 138.121.12.0/24 60.212 ms 99ms 89.8 ms > Metrotel Colombia 190.1.128.0/19 20.989 ms 148ms 90.5 ms > Any advice? > > -Nanoguser99 > > Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/) secure email. >

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