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Dark Fiber in Latin America
by Beavis 13 Feb '15

13 Feb '15

All, I'm looking for some general information of a dark fiber provider in latin america countries namely Nicaragua and Costa Rica. Any info is greatly appreciated. Please contact me off list. thanks, -Beavis -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Disclaimer: http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/

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Weekly Routing Table Report
by Routing Analysis Role Account 13 Feb '15

13 Feb '15

This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.rand.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <pfsinoz(a)gmail.com>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 14 Feb, 2015 Report Website: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net Detailed Analysis: http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/ Analysis Summary ---------------- BGP routing table entries examined: 532541 Prefixes after maximum aggregation (per Origin AS): 203597 Deaggregation factor: 2.62 Unique aggregates announced (without unneeded subnets): 259474 Total ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 49402 Prefixes per ASN: 10.78 Origin-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 36461 Origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 16309 Transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 6259 Transit-only ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 169 Average AS path length visible in the Internet Routing Table: 4.6 Max AS path length visible: 108 Max AS path prepend of ASN ( 60548) 101 Prefixes from unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 1744 Unregistered ASNs in the Routing Table: 432 Number of 32-bit ASNs allocated by the RIRs: 8597 Number of 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 6682 Prefixes from 32-bit ASNs in the Routing Table: 24277 Number of bogon 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 5 Special use prefixes present in the Routing Table: 0 Prefixes being announced from unallocated address space: 399 Number of addresses announced to Internet: 2731541796 Equivalent to 162 /8s, 208 /16s and 5 /24s Percentage of available address space announced: 73.8 Percentage of allocated address space announced: 73.8 Percentage of available address space allocated: 100.0 Percentage of address space in use by end-sites: 97.2 Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 180324 APNIC Region Analysis Summary ----------------------------- Prefixes being announced by APNIC Region ASes: 131568 Total APNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 38312 APNIC Deaggregation factor: 3.43 Prefixes being announced from the APNIC address blocks: 136903 Unique aggregates announced from the APNIC address blocks: 55612 APNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 5026 APNIC Prefixes per ASN: 27.24 APNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 1228 APNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 874 Average APNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.6 Max APNIC Region AS path length visible: 107 Number of APNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 1307 Number of APNIC addresses announced to Internet: 747848064 Equivalent to 44 /8s, 147 /16s and 65 /24s Percentage of available APNIC address space announced: 87.4 APNIC AS Blocks 4608-4864, 7467-7722, 9216-10239, 17408-18431 (pre-ERX allocations) 23552-24575, 37888-38911, 45056-46079, 55296-56319, 58368-59391, 63488-64098, 131072-135580 APNIC Address Blocks 1/8, 14/8, 27/8, 36/8, 39/8, 42/8, 43/8, 49/8, 58/8, 59/8, 60/8, 61/8, 101/8, 103/8, 106/8, 110/8, 111/8, 112/8, 113/8, 114/8, 115/8, 116/8, 117/8, 118/8, 119/8, 120/8, 121/8, 122/8, 123/8, 124/8, 125/8, 126/8, 133/8, 150/8, 153/8, 163/8, 171/8, 175/8, 180/8, 182/8, 183/8, 202/8, 203/8, 210/8, 211/8, 218/8, 219/8, 220/8, 221/8, 222/8, 223/8, ARIN Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by ARIN Region ASes: 176091 Total ARIN prefixes after maximum aggregation: 86886 ARIN Deaggregation factor: 2.03 Prefixes being announced from the ARIN address blocks: 178136 Unique aggregates announced from the ARIN address blocks: 83478 ARIN Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 16488 ARIN Prefixes per ASN: 10.80 ARIN Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 6086 ARIN Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 1717 Average ARIN Region AS path length visible: 3.9 Max ARIN Region AS path length visible: 21 Number of ARIN region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 344 Number of ARIN addresses announced to Internet: 1060672032 Equivalent to 63 /8s, 56 /16s and 146 /24s Percentage of available ARIN address space announced: 56.1 ARIN AS Blocks 1-1876, 1902-2042, 2044-2046, 2048-2106 (pre-ERX allocations) 2138-2584, 2615-2772, 2823-2829, 2880-3153 3354-4607, 4865-5119, 5632-6655, 6912-7466 7723-8191, 10240-12287, 13312-15359, 16384-17407 18432-20479, 21504-23551, 25600-26591, 26624-27647, 29696-30719, 31744-33791 35840-36863, 39936-40959, 46080-47103 53248-55295, 62464-63487, 393216-394239 ARIN Address Blocks 3/8, 4/8, 6/8, 7/8, 8/8, 9/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8, 15/8, 16/8, 17/8, 18/8, 19/8, 20/8, 21/8, 22/8, 23/8, 24/8, 26/8, 28/8, 29/8, 30/8, 32/8, 33/8, 34/8, 35/8, 38/8, 40/8, 44/8, 45/8, 47/8, 48/8, 50/8, 52/8, 53/8, 54/8, 55/8, 56/8, 57/8, 63/8, 64/8, 65/8, 66/8, 67/8, 68/8, 69/8, 70/8, 71/8, 72/8, 73/8, 74/8, 75/8, 76/8, 96/8, 97/8, 98/8, 99/8, 100/8, 104/8, 107/8, 108/8, 128/8, 129/8, 130/8, 131/8, 132/8, 134/8, 135/8, 136/8, 137/8, 138/8, 139/8, 140/8, 142/8, 143/8, 144/8, 146/8, 147/8, 148/8, 149/8, 152/8, 155/8, 156/8, 157/8, 158/8, 159/8, 160/8, 161/8, 162/8, 164/8, 165/8, 166/8, 167/8, 168/8, 169/8, 170/8, 172/8, 173/8, 174/8, 184/8, 192/8, 198/8, 199/8, 204/8, 205/8, 206/8, 207/8, 208/8, 209/8, 214/8, 215/8, 216/8, RIPE Region Analysis Summary ---------------------------- Prefixes being announced by RIPE Region ASes: 129257 Total RIPE prefixes after maximum aggregation: 64399 RIPE Deaggregation factor: 2.01 Prefixes being announced from the RIPE address blocks: 135576 Unique aggregates announced from the RIPE address blocks: 83258 RIPE Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 17867 RIPE Prefixes per ASN: 7.59 RIPE Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 8152 RIPE Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2956 Average RIPE Region AS path length visible: 5.1 Max RIPE Region AS path length visible: 108 Number of RIPE region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 3435 Number of RIPE addresses announced to Internet: 693150596 Equivalent to 41 /8s, 80 /16s and 163 /24s Percentage of available RIPE address space announced: 100.8 RIPE AS Blocks 1877-1901, 2043, 2047, 2107-2136, 2585-2614 (pre-ERX allocations) 2773-2822, 2830-2879, 3154-3353, 5377-5631 6656-6911, 8192-9215, 12288-13311, 15360-16383 20480-21503, 24576-25599, 28672-29695 30720-31743, 33792-35839, 38912-39935 40960-45055, 47104-52223, 56320-58367 59392-61439, 61952-62463, 196608-202239 RIPE Address Blocks 2/8, 5/8, 25/8, 31/8, 37/8, 46/8, 51/8, 62/8, 77/8, 78/8, 79/8, 80/8, 81/8, 82/8, 83/8, 84/8, 85/8, 86/8, 87/8, 88/8, 89/8, 90/8, 91/8, 92/8, 93/8, 94/8, 95/8, 109/8, 141/8, 145/8, 151/8, 176/8, 178/8, 185/8, 188/8, 193/8, 194/8, 195/8, 212/8, 213/8, 217/8, LACNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------ Prefixes being announced by LACNIC Region ASes: 58626 Total LACNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 10984 LACNIC Deaggregation factor: 5.34 Prefixes being announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 68030 Unique aggregates announced from the LACNIC address blocks: 31719 LACNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 2405 LACNIC Prefixes per ASN: 28.29 LACNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 637 LACNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 484 Average LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.9 Max LACNIC Region AS path length visible: 25 Number of LACNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 1507 Number of LACNIC addresses announced to Internet: 167711744 Equivalent to 9 /8s, 255 /16s and 20 /24s Percentage of available LACNIC address space announced: 100.0 LACNIC AS Blocks 26592-26623, 27648-28671, 52224-53247, 61440-61951, 64099-64197, 262144-265628 + ERX transfers LACNIC Address Blocks 177/8, 179/8, 181/8, 186/8, 187/8, 189/8, 190/8, 191/8, 200/8, 201/8, AfriNIC Region Analysis Summary ------------------------------- Prefixes being announced by AfriNIC Region ASes: 12523 Total AfriNIC prefixes after maximum aggregation: 2972 AfriNIC Deaggregation factor: 4.21 Prefixes being announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 13497 Unique aggregates announced from the AfriNIC address blocks: 5048 AfriNIC Region origin ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 735 AfriNIC Prefixes per ASN: 18.36 AfriNIC Region origin ASes announcing only one prefix: 206 AfriNIC Region transit ASes present in the Internet Routing Table: 155 Average AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 4.5 Max AfriNIC Region AS path length visible: 28 Number of AfriNIC region 32-bit ASNs visible in the Routing Table: 89 Number of AfriNIC addresses announced to Internet: 61703424 Equivalent to 3 /8s, 173 /16s and 133 /24s Percentage of available AfriNIC address space announced: 61.3 AfriNIC AS Blocks 36864-37887, 327680-328703 & ERX transfers AfriNIC Address Blocks 41/8, 102/8, 105/8, 154/8, 196/8, 197/8, APNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 4766 2872 11553 911 Korea Telecom 17974 2824 904 77 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 7545 2565 336 128 TPG Telecom Limited 4755 1972 421 203 TATA Communications formerly 4538 1758 4190 71 China Education and Research 9829 1686 1325 36 National Internet Backbone 9808 1536 8639 18 Guangdong Mobile Communicatio 4808 1451 2218 436 CNCGROUP IP network China169 9583 1395 116 574 Sify Limited 9498 1299 336 97 BHARTI Airtel Ltd. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-APNIC ARIN Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 22773 2982 2955 141 Cox Communications Inc. 6389 2891 3688 51 BellSouth.net Inc. 3356 2567 10683 475 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 18566 2042 379 183 MegaPath Corporation 20115 1848 1828 446 Charter Communications 4323 1621 1037 406 tw telecom holdings, inc. 6983 1621 850 242 EarthLink, Inc. 30036 1551 322 481 Mediacom Communications Corp 701 1391 11268 678 MCI Communications Services, 22561 1333 411 240 CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-ARIN RIPE Region per AS prefix count summary --------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 39891 2472 128 6 SaudiNet, Saudi Telecom Compa 34984 1965 300 353 TELLCOM ILETISIM HIZMETLERI A 20940 1594 622 1184 Akamai International B.V. 8402 1357 544 15 OJSC "Vimpelcom" 6849 1198 356 25 JSC "Ukrtelecom" 31148 1045 45 21 Freenet Ltd. 13188 1043 97 61 TOV "Bank-Inform" 8551 903 373 48 Bezeq International-Ltd 12479 860 793 86 France Telecom Espana SA 9198 847 349 25 JSC Kazakhtelecom Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-RIPE LACNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ----------------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 10620 3098 502 222 Telmex Colombia S.A. 28573 2330 2141 111 NET Serviços de Comunicação S 7303 1780 1182 231 Telecom Argentina S.A. 6147 1586 374 30 Telefonica del Peru S.A.A. 8151 1547 3107 453 Uninet S.A. de C.V. 6503 1195 421 58 Axtel, S.A.B. de C.V. 7738 1001 1882 42 Telemar Norte Leste S.A. 3816 921 396 148 COLOMBIA TELECOMUNICACIONES S 26615 921 2325 35 Tim Celular S.A. 18881 863 1037 23 Global Village Telecom Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-LACNIC AfriNIC Region per AS prefix count summary ------------------------------------------ ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 8452 1546 958 13 TE-AS 24863 958 284 26 Link Egypt (Link.NET) 36903 479 241 90 Office National des Postes et 36992 373 845 30 ETISALAT MISR 37492 330 160 66 Orange Tunisie 24835 297 144 9 Vodafone Data 3741 250 921 209 Internet Solutions 29571 229 21 12 Cote d'Ivoire Telecom 36947 197 807 13 Telecom Algeria 15706 176 32 6 Sudatel (Sudan Telecom Co. Lt Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet-AFRINIC Global Per AS prefix count summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets /20 equiv MaxAgg Description 10620 3098 502 222 Telmex Colombia S.A. 22773 2982 2955 141 Cox Communications Inc. 6389 2891 3688 51 BellSouth.net Inc. 4766 2872 11553 911 Korea Telecom 17974 2824 904 77 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 3356 2567 10683 475 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 7545 2565 336 128 TPG Telecom Limited 39891 2472 128 6 SaudiNet, Saudi Telecom Compa 28573 2330 2141 111 NET Serviços de Comunicação S 18566 2042 379 183 MegaPath Corporation Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-ASnet Global Per AS Maximum Aggr summary ---------------------------------- ASN No of nets Net Savings Description 22773 2982 2841 Cox Communications Inc. 6389 2891 2840 BellSouth.net Inc. 17974 2824 2747 PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia 39891 2472 2466 SaudiNet, Saudi Telecom Compa 7545 2565 2437 TPG Telecom Limited 28573 2330 2219 NET Serviços de Comunicação S 3356 2567 2092 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 4766 2872 1961 Korea Telecom 18566 2042 1859 MegaPath Corporation 4755 1972 1769 TATA Communications formerly Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-CIDRnet List of Unregistered Origin ASNs (Global) ----------------------------------------- Bad AS Designation Network Transit AS Description 30662 UNALLOCATED 8.2.129.0/24 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 53506 UNALLOCATED 8.17.102.0/23 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 46467 UNALLOCATED 8.19.192.0/24 46887 Lightower Fiber Netw 18985 UNALLOCATED 8.21.68.0/22 3356 Level 3 Communicatio 46473 UNALLOCATED 8.27.122.0/24 12180 Internap Network Ser 46473 UNALLOCATED 8.27.124.0/24 12180 Internap Network Ser 27205 UNALLOCATED 8.38.16.0/21 6461 Abovenet Communicati 15347 UNALLOCATED 8.224.147.0/24 12064 Cox Communications I 33628 UNALLOCATED 12.0.239.0/24 1239 Sprint 32805 UNALLOCATED 12.1.225.0/24 7018 AT&T Services, Inc. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-badAS Advertised Unallocated Addresses -------------------------------- Network Origin AS Description 5.100.241.0/24 23456 32bit Transition AS 23.92.160.0/24 14013 EPSON America (Factory Automa 23.92.161.0/24 14013 EPSON America (Factory Automa 23.226.112.0/20 62788 Bitfinite LLC 23.252.224.0/20 62502 >>UNKNOWN<< 23.252.224.0/21 62502 >>UNKNOWN<< 23.252.232.0/21 62502 >>UNKNOWN<< 24.231.96.0/24 21548 MTO Telecom Inc. 27.100.7.0/24 56096 >>UNKNOWN<< 31.217.248.0/21 44902 COVAGE NETWORKS SASU Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-add-IANA Number of prefixes announced per prefix length (Global) ------------------------------------------------------- /1:0 /2:0 /3:0 /4:0 /5:0 /6:0 /7:0 /8:16 /9:12 /10:34 /11:92 /12:265 /13:504 /14:998 /15:1722 /16:12967 /17:7140 /18:12114 /19:24896 /20:35717 /21:38485 /22:57601 /23:50331 /24:286619 /25:1187 /26:1099 /27:690 /28:17 /29:14 /30:8 /31:0 /32:13 Advertised prefixes smaller than registry allocations ----------------------------------------------------- ASN No of nets Total ann. Description 39891 2432 2472 SaudiNet, Saudi Telecom Compa 22773 2199 2982 Cox Communications Inc. 18566 1997 2042 MegaPath Corporation 6389 1671 2891 BellSouth.net Inc. 30036 1396 1551 Mediacom Communications Corp 6983 1313 1621 EarthLink, Inc. 34984 1274 1965 TELLCOM ILETISIM HIZMETLERI A 11492 1133 1191 CABLE ONE, INC. 6147 1127 1586 Telefonica del Peru S.A.A. 10620 1101 3098 Telmex Colombia S.A. Complete listing at http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-sXXas-nos Number of /24s announced per /8 block (Global) ---------------------------------------------- 1:1469 2:670 3:1 4:97 5:1726 6:21 8:1412 12:1842 13:4 14:1291 15:16 16:2 17:42 18:21 20:49 23:1137 24:1682 27:1850 31:1430 32:39 33:2 34:5 35:2 36:119 37:1914 38:1006 39:9 40:234 41:3022 42:269 43:1045 44:25 45:191 46:2085 47:34 49:790 50:787 52:12 54:66 55:4 56:8 57:33 58:1200 59:681 60:459 61:1759 62:1299 63:1917 64:4426 65:2260 66:4079 67:2026 68:1041 69:3274 70:965 71:435 72:1968 74:2619 75:314 76:409 77:1457 78:1256 79:777 80:1316 81:1321 82:816 83:678 84:677 85:1328 86:379 87:1078 88:494 89:1755 90:139 91:5925 92:808 93:2179 94:1944 95:2085 96:425 97:339 98:1053 99:47 100:73 101:808 103:6727 104:1229 105:62 106:218 107:884 108:608 109:2024 110:1075 111:1477 112:764 113:1026 114:851 115:1252 116:1320 117:1031 118:1696 119:1421 120:444 121:1049 122:2167 123:1726 124:1488 125:1569 128:628 129:373 130:380 131:1110 132:478 133:167 134:399 135:88 136:311 137:300 138:465 139:173 140:227 141:422 142:629 143:451 144:523 145:111 146:682 147:561 148:1104 149:466 150:560 151:748 152:486 153:248 154:313 155:721 156:402 157:331 158:265 159:988 160:368 161:632 162:1894 163:389 164:655 165:668 166:322 167:703 168:1002 169:150 170:1441 171:223 172:42 173:1591 174:688 175:623 176:1438 177:3730 178:2079 179:865 180:1917 181:1574 182:1692 183:601 184:740 185:2865 186:2709 187:1795 188:2001 189:1547 190:7779 191:845 192:8110 193:5544 194:4055 195:3629 196:1677 197:917 198:5495 199:5522 200:6509 201:2961 202:9552 203:9058 204:4656 205:2736 206:3008 207:2986 208:3956 209:3900 210:3489 211:1833 212:2468 213:2245 214:848 215:69 216:5560 217:1806 218:673 219:464 220:1457 221:790 222:464 223:645 End of report

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Re: Low cost WDM gear
by Kenneth McRae 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

Mike, I just replaced a bunch of FiberStore WDM passive muxes with OSI Hardware equipment. The FiberStore gear was a huge disappointment (excessive loss, poor technical support, refusal to issue refund without threatening legal action, etc.). I have had good results from the OSI equipment so far. I run passive muxes for CWDM (8 - 16 channels). On Feb 07, 2015, at 09:51 AM, Manuel Marín <mmg(a)transtelco.net> wrote: Hi Mike I can recommend a couple of vendors that provide cost effective solutions. Ekinops & Packetlight. On Saturday, February 7, 2015, Mike Hammett <nanog(a)ics-il.net> wrote: I know there are various Asian vendors for low cost (less than $500) muxes to throw 16 or however many colors onto a strand. However, they don't work so well when you don't control the optics used on both sides (therefore must use standard wavelengths), obviously only do a handful of channels and have a distance limitation. What solutions are out there that don't cost an arm and a leg? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- TRANSTELCO| Manuel Marin | VP Engineering | US: *+1 915-217-2232* | MX: *+52 656-257-1109* CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this information, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Esta comunicación es sólo para el uso de la persona o entidad a la que se dirige y puede contener información privilegiada, confidencial y exenta de divulgación bajo la legislación aplicable. Si no es el destinatario de esta información, se le notifica que cualquier uso, difusión, distribución o copia de la comunicación está estrictamente prohibido.

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Gmail slow?
by Mel Beckman 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

We are getting many complaints demo diverse networks on both coasts that Gmail is very sluggish, sometimes taking a 20 to 30 seconds to refresh the mail items list. Is anyone else seeing this? -mel beckman Becknet.com

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Re: mpls over microwave
by Scott Weeks 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

Just in case anyone looks this thread up in the future... We're likely going with Aviat and their "DAC GE card EXD-181-002" cards. >From the company: "Yes the Ethernet card does support jumbo frame size, IPV6 and MPLS EXP bits, QOS and VLANs with 802.1q tagging." scott

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Accessing YouTube Video from a single /24
by Cory Haessler 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

NANOG Request for a Google / Youtube network eng. to contact me off list to help troubleshooting. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------- Cory Haessler | CNI | Network Operations Center Manager | 888-618-4638 www.cniteam.com; www.ifnetwork.biz 13888 County Rd. 25A | Wapakoneta, Ohio 45895 -------------------------------------------------------------------

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Custom fiber for FTT* deployment
by Jeremiah Kristal 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

I am researching a project that would involve running fiber to several thousand kiosks in a dense metro area. My $dayjob owns very dense metro fiber footpring in the metro in question, but splicing costs are high, and I prefer not to strand a lot of backbone fibers if at all possible. The customer's plan is to have a hub connected with a 10G link, and 9 spokes connected to the hub via a 1G link. The initial plan was to build laterals to the hub site, connect the hub site to backbone fiber that runs to a site with 10G switches, build laterals to each of the spoke sites, and have each of the spokes connected to backbone fiber pairs to the hub lateral and then to the hub Ethernet switches. I've been thinking about a more efficient way to do this, and I thought that I had read something on this list several years ago about custom fiber bundles with something like X pairs of different lengths in a single bundle. I would ideally like to be able to order a bundle with 10 pairs of SM fiber, with 2 pairs being 200' long, 2 pairs being 400' long, 2 pairs being 600' long, 2 pairs being 800' long, and the remaining 2 pairs being 1000' long. Has anyone ordered this type of fiber bundle before, and could you recommend a vendor that I can speak with about this? Jeremiah

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Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design
by Skeeve Stevens 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

I like this take on it... thanks David. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect* eintellego Networks Pty Ltd Email: skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve Facebook: eintellegonetworks <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ; Twitter: eintellego <https://twitter.com/eintellego> LinkedIn: /in/skeeve <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cumulus Linux - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:27 AM, David Barak <thegameiam(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:38 AM, Skeeve Stevens < > skeeve+nanog(a)eintellegonetworks.com> wrote: > > > > >Actually Bill... I have two (conflicting) perspectives as I said.... but > to > clarify: > > >1) A customer asked 'Can you make sure we have the IP for the network > design' which I was wondering if it is even technically possible.... > > >2) If I design some amazing solutions... am I able to claim IP. > > It is worth differentiating between the design itself and the > documentation of said design. The latter is clearly and totally IP, and > you could present that to the customer as "theirs": theirs and not yours - > that is, you would use different templates, naming conventions, etc. if you > created from whole cloth a similar design for a different customer in a > similar situation. They may be attempting to make sure that their network > documents don't show up as examples or other presentations for other > customers. > > As an example, an architecture document or a network assessment would be > covered by copyright law, and as such could be assigned to the author, the > company which created it, or could be "work-for-hire" and assigned to the > hiring company, depending on the contract in question. > > As to an amazing design solution, the USPTO has rules for that - you could > patent your design, but in our line of work that'd be a high bar given > prior art. > > David Barak > Need Geek Rock? Try The Franchise: > http://www.cdbaby.com/all/thefranchise > <http://www.listentothefranchise.com/> > > <http://www.listentothefranchise.com/> > > >

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gmail spam help
by Alex Rubenstein 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world -> gmail email issue, where email is being considering spam by gmail erroneously? Thanks.

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Re: Intellectual Property in Network Design
by Brandon Butterworth 12 Feb '15

12 Feb '15

> Actually Bill... I have two (conflicting) perspectives as I said.... but to > clarify: > > 1) A customer asked 'Can you make sure we have the IP for the network > design' which I was wondering if it is even technically possible.... I think they mean "we don't want you coming back and trying to make any claim on us for anything we may do with the work you did for us" that may mean something like they extend it or roll out some more to the same design or start selling it as part of a system to their customers There's been legal cases with architects designing a store building for a chain and the chain then reusing the desing for more sites. I've not heard of it for networks and your customer wants to keep it that way. > 2) If I design some amazing solutions... am I able to claim IP. Doesn't matter but if you did they want the rights to it already brandon

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