February 1998 - NANOG - lists.nanog.org

Spam which is designed to crash POP and many mail readers...
by Barry Shein 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

[More proof that these "spammers" aren't selling anything, they're just garden-variety petit criminals trying to disrupt the internet...] Anyhow, has anyone else seen this recent spate of spam which is basically designed to crash POP and Netscape and other programs in the past few days? It's not you, they've found "from" addresses which cause problems, the usual first symptom is a bunch of people complaining about "stuck" POP locks or problems with Netscape, elm and other mail readers. [Oh yeah I'm suuuurrrre these are just "honest" business people, who just don't want anyone to be able to read their ads...] BTW, they really do look mostly like legitimate ads, albeit for your typically questionable products (stop smoking herbs or something like that.) These so-called spammers are laughing their asses off at us. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs(a)world.std.com | http://www.std.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo*

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circuits in WVA?
by Jeremiah Kristal 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

Has anyone had any recent luck provisioning circuits into West Virginia? I have been trying to order two DS-3s and haven't been able to find any IXCs that can do it. Is there really no capacity whatsoever into WVA or am I just not talking to the correct people? I'm not looking for a cheap solution, or even an elegant solution at this time, I just need to get these circuits ordered. (Any telco vendors lurking, here's your chance.) Jeremiah Kristal Senior Network Engineer ICon CMT Corporation jeremiah(a)iconnet.net 201-319-5764 x284 internal

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[ralphs@halcyon.com: Your e-mail re: ' Re: How to document threats from pro or anti spam terrorists? ']
by dirk＠power.net 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

This is not a bad idea at all. Dirk -----Forwarded message from Ralph Sims <ralphs(a)halcyon.com>----- Return-Path: <ralphs(a)mail1.halcyon.com> Delivered-To: dirk(a)hermosa.power.net Received: (qmail 21349 invoked from network); 24 Feb 1998 05:08:23 -0000 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (206.63.63.40) by hermosa.power.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 1998 05:08:23 -0000 Received: (from ralphs@localhost) by mail1.halcyon.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00061; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:08:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:08:15 -0800 (PST) From: Ralph Sims <ralphs(a)halcyon.com> Message-Id: <199802240508.VAA00061(a)mail1.halcyon.com> To: dirk(a)hermosa.power.net References: <19980221151858.32518(a)hermosa.power.net> <Pine.GUL.3.96.980223125859.3575A-100000(a)nfs1.halcyon.com> <19980223210748.55151(a)hermosa.power.net> In-Reply-To: <19980223210748.55151(a)hermosa.power.net> Precedence: junk X-Loop: gzornanplatz(a)halcyon.com Subject: Your e-mail re: ' Re: How to document threats from pro or anti spam terrorists? ' This is to acknowledge I have received your message. If your e-mail is regarding Northwest Nexus operations or relates to company inquiries and might be better handled by someone else on our staff, I will forward it for you; please be assured that I do read all non-spam e-mail I receive. If you do not receive a timely response or a satisfactory resolution, please let me know. This message is returned to each address from which I receive e-mail only once during a one-month period beginning on the 27th of each month. Useful e-mail addresses to keep on file: support(a)nwnexus.com - for urgent issues, please phone billing(a)nwnexus.com - accounts receiveable and payable, etc. sales(a)nwnexus.com - information on our services abuse(a)nwnexus.com - system abuse, "SPAM", etc. by our customers security(a)nwnexus.com - system and network security issues postmaster(a)nwexus.com - e-mail delivery problems and related issues http://www.nwnexus.com - who we are and what we do http://webfaq.halcyon.com - our FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) server ftp.halcyon.com - our public file server (via anonymous FTP or HTTP) Ralph Sims, Vice President (Research and Development) Northwest Nexus, Inc. 10800 NE 8th Street, Suite 802 Bellevue, WA 98004 425.455.3505 or +1.888.696.3987 (ext. 227); +1.425.455.4672 (FAX) -----End of forwarded message-----

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Re: How to document threats from pro or anti spam terrorists?
by Sean Finn 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

At 12:57 PM 2/23/98 -0500, Barry Shein wrote: > > There really are two terrorist groups here. Spammers and > > nti-Spammers. > >That's like saying people defending their properties are as bad as >people they're defending against, that's moral confusion. When an 'anti-spammer' compromises net access for a group of people as a response to percieved "net abuse" on the part of a single member of that group, that's a denial of service. The phrase 'using violence to prevent violence' comes to mind. (I wouldn't say that my government uses 'moral confusion' to justify it's practices, but ... ;) ------ This *is* an important, and troubling subject ... ... but it's my intuition that nanog might not be the place for this particular debate. (suggestions for a more appropriate forum?) cheers -- Sean

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Problems reaching Texas Higher Education (the.net)
by Larry Vaden 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Can anyone else confirm difficulty reaching hosts on the.net, e.g., mims.utdallas.edu. Our customer reports a several day outage. Thanks, Larry

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Re: Bellovin sez...
by Sean Donelan 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

>Forgive my directness, but there was no _new_ data at all >in what the referenced URL quoted Steve/Matt as saying. I'll admit I asked Steve & Matt a pretty softball question, but that wasn't really the point. My question was really about my fear that Internet outages aren't news anymore. Have outages really become so common place that people now accept them as the normal condition of the net? There is a lack of any new data. In general providers seem to be releasing less and less information why outages occur. Are natural disasters really the major cause of outages, or is pilot error a bigger factor than providers care to admit? Fiber cuts get repaired a lot faster than dumb management decisions. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Hello? Exodus?
by Adam Rothschild 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Another desparate cry for help... Could some high-ranking person from Exodus please drop me a note (privately)? I have an issue (seemingly simlpe) that has gone on for 4 days without resolution, despite numerous calls and e-mails to your support staff, and numerous broken promises that followed. My deepest appologies for contributing to the static of this list. Unfortunately, I see no viable alternatives. Thanks, Adam

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HOly jesus.
by Alex Rubenstein 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

I hate writing emails like this (because I hate seeing them). But. I am looking for a *clueful* individual in the Primenet/GlobalCenter NOC to look at a de-aggregation issue. Primenet said, "Call GlobalCenter." GlobalCetner said, "Call Primenet." Alex started banging head into desk.

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provisioning an overseas circuit
by Sanjay Dani 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

We have a need for a 128k circuit between the PAIX (SF Bay area) and a US-friendly persian gulf country for a customer application. Sending email to various global telco providers' standard sales aliases and talking to the local bell has been a non-starter so far. I am sure some of you have interesting stories, useful contacts and advise for navigating through what looks like a lengthy and complicated process. I will appreciate your private replies. Thanks in advance. I will be happy to summarize replies if there is interest. I know this is only semi applicable to this list. Any recommendations on network operators' mailing lists outside of the North American continent that one could subscribe to for more regional issues? Regards, Sanjay. --------------------------------------------------------------- Web Professionals, Inc. Direct: +1 408-863-4850 20111 Stevens Creek Blvd, Suite 145 Biz/NOC: +1 408-863-4848 Cupertino CA 95014 USA http://web.professionals.com --------------------------------------------------------------- -=- Your Outsourcing Partner for Website and Server Hosting -=-

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Internic PGP Auth busted
by Greg Ketell 21 Feb '98

21 Feb '98

Apparently their keyserver is broken. They don't have an ETA for uptime. If you use PGP authentication: Be warned. GK

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