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Re: Supernet block sizes - recommendations?
by tjs＠msc.edu 20 May '93

20 May '93

> From: aggarwal(a)nisc.jvnc.net (Vikas Aggarwal) > Subject: Re: Supernet block sizes - recommendations? > To: Daniel.Karrenberg(a)ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) > Date: Fri, 14 May 93 9:28:44 EDT > Cc: regional-techs(a)merit.edu, local-ir(a)ripe.net > [...] > Usually these arguments do the trick-- its a matter of technical sense > prevailing over 'I want a class B' pride. We ought to have a better response to the claim: "I want a class B to improve performance, (because I can easily make my UNIX software use larger MTUs)." -tjs

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Reg Techs Meeting-Arrangements
by Ken Latta 19 May '93

19 May '93

NSFNET Regional Techs Meeting For More Information, Call: Ken Latta klatta(a)merit.edu 313-936-2115 Pam Ciesla pam(a)merit.edu 313-936-3335 Arrangements HOTEL Courtyard By Marriott 533 Herndon Parkway, Herndon (703)478-9400 (800)228-9290 40 rooms blocked under the name Regional Tech Meeting The block expires 6/2. Cost for rooms. $69.00 per night or $69.00 for Wednesday; $52.00 for Thursday-Saturday; convenient to Sprint International (approx. 1 1/2 miles). Directions (from Court Yard Marriott) Sprint International, 12490 Sunrise Valley Drive, Reston, VA 22096 The Marriott Court Yard is on the Herndon Parkway. Take left onto the Herndon Parkway as you leave the Hotel Take left onto Monroe Street (lights and a Xerox building on the left) Take left onto Surise Valley Drive (about 1/2 mile) at lights Follow Sunrise Valley Drive for about 1 mile. Sprint Intl Campus will be on the left. AIRPORT Dulles Directions to Sprint International from Dulles: Take Toll Road East, Route 267. Exit at Fairfax Parkway, turn right onto the Parkway. At next set of lights (about 1/8th mile) take right onto Sunrise Valley Drive Take next right into Sprint International campus. Follow signs to visitor parking Meeting will be held in the Headquarters building. As you drive in the campus it will be on the left. TRANSPORTATION Shuttle to and from hotel and airport. Rental cars -- / 30 / -- ######

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Reg Techs Meeting-Prelim Agenda
by Ken Latta 19 May '93

19 May '93

NSFNET Regional Techs Meeting For More Information, Call: Ken Latta klatta(a)merit.edu 313-936-2115 Pam Ciesla pam(a)merit.edu 313-936-3335 Overview A meeting of the NSFNET Regional Techs group will be held June 10th and 11th in Reston, Virginia at the headquarters of Sprint, International. A Preliminary Agenda and Arrangements Information follow. Preliminary Agenda I. Configuration of NSFNET for Aggregation (1 hour) Steve Richardson, Merit Dale Johnson, Merit This session will be a presentation of an update to the Internet Draft that was circulated at the Columbus IETF. It will cover the functions that the NSFNET will support and how midlevels can request configuration for the ENSS's in the backbone. The structure of the Merit Policy Routing Database for aggregation support will also be covered, as well as a proposed Aggregate Registry. II. GATED Support of CIDR (45 minutes) Dennis Ferguson, ANS Jeff Honig, Cornell This session will present the capabilities of gated with respect to CIDR. In particular the BGP implementation and status will be described, as well as the configuration capabilities of gated with BGP-4. III. Registration Issues for IP Aggregates (30 minutes) Elise Gerich, Merit Scott Williamson, InterNIC/NSI Mark Kosters, InterNIC/NSI The registration of aggregates into the various databases, e.g. Merit/NSFNET, RIPE and InterNIC, requires some changes to the way contact and organizational information is associated with network number/name. This discussion will cover the changes necessary to the databases, and it is hoped that the group will propose specific actions to resolve the questions including new management tools. IV. Proposals for Representation and Sharing of Routing Policy Information (45 minutes) Andrew Partan, AlterNet Enke Chen, Merit This session will include an overview of the paper, RIPE-81, which is a proposed database representation for inter-AS routing policy. It will also cover the paper on RPDL from Merit. The purpose of the session will be to summarize the recent discussions about the differences between the two approaches and how they might be combined. V. Route Server Deployment (30 minutes) Mark Knopper, Merit Andrew Partan, AlterNet Deployment of route servers at the MAE-East "experimental NAP" is taking place, and the status of this cooperative effort will be given in this session. The routing plan for each of the route servers will be covered, along with configuration issues. VI. NSFNET Policy Routing Database Implementation Status (30 minutes) Enke Chen, Merit Andy Adams, Merit Andy and Enke will present an overview of the Informix database system that is now being used to configure the backbone, and the tools that have been implemented to allow regional-techs to automate submission of network announcement change requests and to perform direct queries to the database in different ways. Implementation of new tools for Merit configuration staff have improved productivity tremendously. This will also be an opportunity to brainstorm on the types of tools that are needed to support route aggregation. VII. NSFNET Solicitation Status (30 minutes) Dan Jordt, NorthWestNet Now that the NSFNET solicitation has been released, many of the regionals have difficult choices to make. Many of the problems are common and this session will be an opportunity to discuss issues from the technical perspective. VIII. ANSNET Backbone Status Report (1 hour) Jordan Becker, ANS The T3 backbone status will be covered including recent and planned deployment of new software and hardware for the backbone routers. -- / 30 / --

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Additions to the NSFNET policy-based routing database
by enke＠twain.merit.edu 17 May '93

17 May '93

The following additions have been made to the NSFNET policy-based routing database and will be installed on the backbone by 08:00 EDT: Total = Class A+Class B+Class C Configured Networks 11729 = 23 3620 8086 Added Networks 62 = 0 6 56 Deleted Networks 1 = 0 1 0 IP address Net name Country Date Priority:AS ---------- -------- ------- ---- ----------- 142.130 OTTDFO C:CA D:05/17/93 1:601 2:602 3:603 142.214 HUMBERCXNET1 C:CA D:05/17/93 1:601 2:602 3:603 142.231 BCNET3 C:CA D:05/17/93 1:602 2:601 3:603 159.121 ORECAP C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 165.106 BRYNMAWR-B C:US D:05/17/93 1:204 2:1206 165.107 LEG-CA-NET C:US D:05/17/93 1:200 2:201 192.107.163 HARRISNET12 C:US D:05/17/93 1:279 2:86 192.120.248 AMARILLOJC-3 C:US D:05/17/93 1:114 192.131.69 SECAPL-CLTS C:US D:05/17/93 1:701 2:702 192.187.199 NETCOM199 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2551 192.187.201 CASEWARE C:US D:05/17/93 1:2551 192.187.202 GLOBAL C:US D:05/17/93 1:2551 192.197.61 COMPUSULT C:CA D:05/17/93 1:603 2:601 3:602 192.200.128 HANOVER1 C:US D:05/17/93 1:267 2:266 3:1225 192.200.129 HANOVER2 C:US D:05/17/93 1:267 2:266 3:1225 192.200.130 HANOVER3 C:US D:05/17/93 1:267 2:266 3:1225 192.200.131 HANOVER4 C:US D:05/17/93 1:267 2:266 3:1225 192.200.132 HANOVER5 C:US D:05/17/93 1:267 2:266 3:1225 192.200.133 HANOVER6 C:US D:05/17/93 1:267 2:266 3:1225 192.200.134 HANOVER7 C:US D:05/17/93 1:267 2:266 3:1225 192.200.135 HANOVER8 C:US D:05/17/93 1:267 2:266 3:1225 192.216.193 BARRNET-216-193 C:US D:05/17/93 1:200 2:201 192.216.194 BARRNET-216-194 C:US D:05/17/93 1:200 2:201 192.216.195 BARRNET-216-195 C:US D:05/17/93 1:200 2:201 192.233.147 NETBLK-NEARNET-C-147 C:US D:05/17/93 1:560 192.233.148 NETBLK-NEARNET-C-148 C:US D:05/17/93 1:560 192.233.149 NETBLK-NEARNET-C-149 C:US D:05/17/93 1:560 192.233.150 NETBLK-NEARNET-C-150 C:US D:05/17/93 1:560 192.233.151 NETBLK-NEARNET-C-151 C:US D:05/17/93 1:560 192.233.83 NISSAN C:US D:05/17/93 1:281 2:701 192.239.1 NETBLK-SURA-NEW-NET-1 C:US D:05/17/93 1:86 2:279 192.239.8 SURA-DIAL-ANNEX C:US D:05/17/93 1:86 2:279 192.239.9 SURA-DIAL-WTN C:US D:05/17/93 1:86 2:279 192.246.129 PSINET-C2-129 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.130 PSINET-C2-130 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.131 PSINET-C2-131 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.132 PSINET-C2-132 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.133 PSINET-C2-133 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.134 PSINET-C2-134 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.135 PSINET-C2-135 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.136 PSINET-C2-136 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.137 PSINET-C2-137 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.138 PSINET-C2-138 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.139 PSINET-C2-139 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.140 PSINET-C2-140 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.141 PSINET-C2-141 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.142 PSINET-C2-142 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.143 PSINET-C2-143 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.246.144 PSINET-C2-144 C:US D:05/17/93 1:2149 2:174 192.43.175 LUCID-CNETS-175 C:US D:05/17/93 1:200 2:201 192.6.221 HP-COR C:US D:05/17/93 1:200 2:201 6:281 193.112.128 CURSCI-1 C:GB D:05/17/93 1:701 2:1800 193.112.129 CURSCI-2 C:GB D:05/17/93 1:701 2:1800 193.112.130 CURSCI-3 C:GB D:05/17/93 1:701 2:1800 193.112.131 CURSCI-4 C:GB D:05/17/93 1:701 2:1800 193.112.132 CURSCI-5 C:GB D:05/17/93 1:701 2:1800 193.112.133 CURSCI-6 C:GB D:05/17/93 1:701 2:1800 193.112.134 CURSCI-7 C:GB D:05/17/93 1:701 2:1800 198.174.10 COMMODITYSPEC C:US D:05/17/93 1:267 2:1225 3:266 4:555 198.73.170 F2ARC2 C:CA D:05/17/93 1:601 2:602 3:603 198.73.183 MINDLINK1 C:CA D:05/17/93 1:602 2:601 3:603 198.73.184 MINDLINK2 C:CA D:05/17/93 1:602 2:601 3:603 ------------------------------------------------------------ Amarillo College, Computer Center, P.O Box 447, Amarillo, TX 79178, USA 1:114 SESQUINET Regional Network ----------- 192.120.248 AMARILLOJC-3 (US) BARRNet, c/o Stanford University, Pine Hall 115, Stanford, CA 94305-4122, USA 1:200 BARRNet 2:201 BARRNet ----------- 192.216.193 BARRNET-216-193 (US) 192.216.194 BARRNET-216-194 (US) 192.216.195 BARRNET-216-195 (US) BCnet, 419 - 6356 Agricultural Road, Vancouver, British Columbia V6T 1Z2, CANADA 1:602 CA*net in Montreal 2:601 CA*net in Toronto 3:603 CA*net in Quebec ------- 142.231 BCNET3 (CA) Bryn Mawr College, Academic Computing, 101 North Merion Ave., Bryn Mawr, PA 19010, USA 1:204 PSCNET Regional Network 2:1206 PSCNET Regional Network ------- 165.106 BRYNMAWR-B (US) CaseWare, Inc., 108 Pacifica, 2nd floor, Irvine, CA 92718, USA 1:2551 NETCOM ----------- 192.187.201 CASEWARE (US) Commodity Specialists Company, Pillsbury Center MS20W9, Minneapolis, MN 55402, USA 1:267 CICNET at UIUC 2:1225 CICNET at Argonne Labs 3:266 CICNET at MERIT 4:555 Minnesota Supercomputer Center Network (MSCNet) ---------- 198.174.10 COMMODITYSPEC (US) Compusult Ltd., 432 Water Street, Suite 200, Box 60, St. John's, NF A1C 5K8, CANADA 1:603 CA*net in Quebec 2:601 CA*net in Toronto 3:602 CA*net in Montreal ---------- 192.197.61 COMPUSULT (CA) Current Science Ltd, 34 Cleveland Street, London W1P 5FB, UNITED KINGDOM 1:701 Alternet 2:1800 ICM-Atlantic ----------- 193.112.128 CURSCI-1 (GB) 193.112.129 CURSCI-2 (GB) 193.112.130 CURSCI-3 (GB) 193.112.131 CURSCI-4 (GB) 193.112.132 CURSCI-5 (GB) 193.112.133 CURSCI-6 (GB) 193.112.134 CURSCI-7 (GB) General Services, State of Oregon, 1225 Ferry St. S.E., Salem, OR 97310, USA 1:2149 PSINET-2 2:174 NYSERNet Regional Network / PSI ------- 159.121 ORECAP (US) Global Village Communications, 685B E. Middlefield Rd., Mountain View, CA 94043, USA 1:2551 NETCOM ----------- 192.187.202 GLOBAL (US) Government Telecommuncations Agency, 360 Laurier Ave. West,, Ottawa, Ont K1A-OC8, CANADA 1:601 CA*net in Toronto 2:602 CA*net in Montreal 3:603 CA*net in Quebec ------- 142.130 OTTDFO (CA) Hanover College, P.O. Box 108, Hanover, IN 47243, USA 1:267 CICNET at UIUC 2:266 CICNET at MERIT 3:1225 CICNET at Argonne Labs ----------- 192.200.128 HANOVER1 (US) 192.200.129 HANOVER2 (US) 192.200.130 HANOVER3 (US) 192.200.131 HANOVER4 (US) 192.200.132 HANOVER5 (US) 192.200.133 HANOVER6 (US) 192.200.134 HANOVER7 (US) 192.200.135 HANOVER8 (US) Harris Electronic Systems Sector, M/S 15-8873, P.O. Box 37, Melbourne, FL 32902, USA 1:279 SURANET Regional Network (Georgia Tech) 2:86 SURANET Regional Network (College Park) ----------- 192.107.163 HARRISNET12 (US) Hewlett-Packard Company, 19420 Homestead Road, Cupertino, CA 95014, USA 1:200 BARRNet 2:201 BARRNet 6:281 NEARnet Regional Network --------- 192.6.221 HP-COR (US) Humber College, 205 Humber College Blvd., Etobicoke, Ont M9W 5L7, CANADA 1:601 CA*net in Toronto 2:602 CA*net in Montreal 3:603 CA*net in Quebec ------- 142.214 HUMBERCXNET1 (CA) Lucid, Inc., 707 Laurel Street, Menlo Park, CA 94025, USA 1:200 BARRNet 2:201 BARRNet ---------- 192.43.175 LUCID-CNETS-175 (US) MIND LINK!, Box 3203, Langley, British Columbia V3A 4R5, CANADA 1:602 CA*net in Montreal 2:601 CA*net in Toronto 3:603 CA*net in Quebec ---------- 198.73.183 MINDLINK1 (CA) 198.73.184 MINDLINK2 (CA) NEARnet, 10 Moulton St, Cambridge, MA, 02138, USA 1:560 NEARnet Regional Network ----------- 192.233.147 NETBLK-NEARNET-C-147 (US) 192.233.148 NETBLK-NEARNET-C-148 (US) 192.233.149 NETBLK-NEARNET-C-149 (US) 192.233.150 NETBLK-NEARNET-C-150 (US) 192.233.151 NETBLK-NEARNET-C-151 (US) Netcom On-line Communications Services, 4000 Moorpark Ave, Suite #209, San Jose, CA 95117, USA 1:2551 NETCOM ----------- 192.187.199 NETCOM199 (US) Nissan Cambridge Basic Research, 4F Cabridge Center, 3rd Floor, Cambridge, MA 02142, USA 1:281 NEARnet Regional Network 2:701 Alternet ---------- 192.233.83 NISSAN (US) PSI, Inc., 165 Jordan Road, Troy, NY 12180, USA 1:2149 PSINET-2 2:174 NYSERNet Regional Network / PSI ----------- 192.246.129 PSINET-C2-129 (US) 192.246.130 PSINET-C2-130 (US) 192.246.131 PSINET-C2-131 (US) 192.246.132 PSINET-C2-132 (US) 192.246.133 PSINET-C2-133 (US) 192.246.134 PSINET-C2-134 (US) 192.246.135 PSINET-C2-135 (US) 192.246.136 PSINET-C2-136 (US) 192.246.137 PSINET-C2-137 (US) 192.246.138 PSINET-C2-138 (US) 192.246.139 PSINET-C2-139 (US) 192.246.140 PSINET-C2-140 (US) 192.246.141 PSINET-C2-141 (US) 192.246.142 PSINET-C2-142 (US) 192.246.143 PSINET-C2-143 (US) 192.246.144 PSINET-C2-144 (US) SURAnet, 8400 Baltimore Blvd., College Park, MD 20740, USA 1:86 SURANET Regional Network (College Park) 2:279 SURANET Regional Network (Georgia Tech) --------- 192.239.1 NETBLK-SURA-NEW-NET-1 (US) SURAnet, 8400 Baltimore Blvd., Suite 101, College Park, MD 20724, USA 1:86 SURANET Regional Network (College Park) 2:279 SURANET Regional Network (Georgia Tech) --------- 192.239.8 SURA-DIAL-ANNEX (US) 192.239.9 SURA-DIAL-WTN (US) Security APL, Inc., 135 South LaSalle, Suite #2412, Chicago, IL 60603, USA 1:701 Alternet 2:702 Alternet ---------- 192.131.69 SECAPL-CLTS (US) Sir Sandford Fleming College, Rm 352 Brealey Bldg., Brealey Drive, Peterborough, Ont K9J 7B1, CANADA 1:601 CA*net in Toronto 2:602 CA*net in Montreal 3:603 CA*net in Quebec ---------- 198.73.170 F2ARC2 (CA) Teale Data Center, 2005 Evergreen St., Sacramento, CA 98515, USA 1:200 BARRNet 2:201 BARRNet ------- 165.107 LEG-CA-NET (US) ***************************************************************** The configuration reports which reflect today's update will be available for anonymous ftp on nic.merit.edu by 08:00 EDT: configuration reports -- nic.merit.edu:nsfnet/announced.networks: ans_core.now as-as.now as-gw.now as-site.now country.now gate-gw.now net-comp.now net-ter.now net-net.now netcount.now non-us.now nss-as.now nss-gw.now networks sorted by AS -- nic.merit.edu:nsfnet/announced.networks: nets.as_<AS number> NSS routing software configuration files -- nic.merit.edu:nsfnet/backbone.configuration: nss<NSS number>.t3p Please send all requests for configuration changes to nsfnet-admin(a)merit.edu using the NSFNET configuration forms. The forms are available on-line from the nic.merit.edu machine. Use ftp and the anonymous login to get on the machine. Do a "cd nsfnet/announced.networks" and get the files template.net, template.gate, and template.as. ******************************* --Steve Widmayer Merit/NSFNET skw(a)merit.edu --Enke Chen Merit/NSFNET enke(a)merit.edu --Steven J. Richardson Merit/NSFNET sjr(a)merit.edu

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Re: Supernet block sizes - recommendations?
by epg 14 May '93

14 May '93

Vince writes: >I recently received a request from one of our sites for a block of 256 network >numbers from one of our supernet blocks and have been hesitant to fill it >because of the relatively large fraction of the current NIC-allocated maximum >lock size (1024 networks) it represents. If I recall correctly, at the Boulder >Regional Techs meeting, we talked about "reasonable" block sizes in the 32 to >64 network range. With the input from the regional techs meeting and discussions with the RIPE NCC and the IEPG mailing list, RFC 1366 was revised to recommend a maximum allocation of 64 IP network numbers at a time. There have already been some very good arguements made on this mail string to support allocating smaller blocks while reserving some contiguous blocks for potential growth (smaller than 256). --Elise

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Re: Supernet block sizes - recommendations?
by Vince Fuller 14 May '93

14 May '93

Same here. For large chunks of class C's, we send the end site directly to the NIC. This somewhat defeats the goal of using CIDR to reduce routing table explosion, since if the block comes directly from the NIC, no aggregation can be done by the service provider which connects the site. Its just hard convincing the end sites the 'merits' of a chunk of class C addresses for them-- too many are just too caught up in the 'prestige' involved in getting a class B network... if only someone could tell all those 'consultants' advising these end sites to get class B's... ;-) I can think of a couple of benefits of having big chunk of C's rather than a B: - two-level subnetting, even using dumb protocols that can't to VLSM (i.e. each individual class-C is a "subnet" of the block, plus each class-C can be subnetted itself) - more flexible routing policy possible with EGP2/BGP3 - a monolithic class-B can have only one routing policy (at least until BGP4) but a block of class-C's can be divided to support multiple policies for different parts of the block. This may not be something to advocate, though, since it plays against aggregation. --Vince

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Additions to the NSFNET policy-based routing database
by Steven K. Widmayer 13 May '93

13 May '93

The following additions have been made to the NSFNET policy-based routing database and will be installed on the backbone by 08:00 EDT: Total = Class A+Class B+Class C Configured Networks 11668 = 23 3615 8030 Added Networks 81 = 0 8 73 Deleted Networks 17 = 0 0 17 IP address Net name Country Date Priority:AS ---------- -------- ------- ---- ----------- 137.125 SUC-TECH-FRM C:US D:05/13/93 1:2149 2:174 146.114 ARBNET C:US D:05/13/93 1:200 2:201 152.4 UNCECS-NET C:US D:05/13/93 1:81 2:1327 160.26 TYM-NET C:JP D:05/13/93 1:1240 2:1800 160.7 NEBO-NET C:US D:05/13/93 1:210 2:209 161.23 LHMC-AC-UK C:GB D:05/13/93 1:297 2:372 163.247 GOVNET C:CL D:05/13/93 1:86 2:279 165.74 CDE C:US D:05/13/93 1:200 2:201 192.104.24 SASILAN C:US D:05/13/93 1:204 2:1206 192.109.102 NBG-NET C:DE D:05/13/93 1:1324 192.114.64 DGT-NET C:IL D:05/13/93 1:2149 2:174 192.114.66 FIB-IL1-NET C:IL D:05/13/93 1:2149 2:174 192.114.67 FIB-IL2-NET C:IL D:05/13/93 1:2149 2:174 192.114.68 FIB-IL3-NET C:IL D:05/13/93 1:2149 2:174 192.114.69 FIB-IL4-NET C:IL D:05/13/93 1:2149 2:174 192.114.70 FIB-IL5-NET C:IL D:05/13/93 1:2149 2:174 192.154.72 GESCAN-NET C:US D:05/13/93 1:81 2:1327 192.154.91 GLAXOCIT-1 C:US D:05/13/93 1:81 2:1327 192.154.92 GLAXOCIT-2 C:US D:05/13/93 1:81 2:1327 192.154.93 GLAXOCIT-3 C:US D:05/13/93 1:81 2:1327 192.154.95 GAHEC-NET C:US D:05/13/93 1:81 2:1327 192.157.68 ICMNET-5 C:US D:05/13/93 1:1800 2:1240 192.187.191 MAINSOFT C:US D:05/13/93 1:2551 192.187.196 MJONES C:US D:05/13/93 1:2551 192.187.197 APPLIEDP C:US D:05/13/93 1:2551 192.187.198 DELFINSD C:US D:05/13/93 1:2551 192.188.206 SED-CRM C:US D:05/13/93 1:19 2:568 192.195.253 NMC-1 C:US D:05/13/93 1:237 2:233 192.204.50 GANNON C:US D:05/13/93 1:204 2:1206 192.207.188 INT C:US D:05/13/93 1:2149 2:174 192.220.254 NWREL-NET C:US D:05/13/93 1:685 2:73 3:101 192.238.16 NET-SACI1 C:US D:05/13/93 1:280 192.238.17 NET-SACI2 C:US D:05/13/93 1:280 192.238.18 NET-SACI3 C:US D:05/13/93 1:280 192.238.19 NET-SACI4 C:US D:05/13/93 1:280 192.238.20 NET-SACI5 C:US D:05/13/93 1:280 192.238.21 NET-SACI6 C:US D:05/13/93 1:280 192.238.22 NET-SACI7 C:US D:05/13/93 1:280 192.238.23 NET-SACI8 C:US D:05/13/93 1:280 192.47.184 TOHOGAKUEN C:JP D:05/13/93 1:1240 2:1800 192.6.113 HP-RACAL-MILGO C:US D:05/13/93 1:200 2:201 3:2149 4:174 5:281 6:209 7:210 193.127.1 GSTNET-1 C:ES D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.127.2 GSTNET-2 C:ES D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.127.3 GSTNET-3 C:ES D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.127.4 GSTNET-4 C:ES D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.140.2 YILDIZ-NET C:TR D:05/13/93 1:1800 2:1240 193.140.3 YILDIZ-NET2 C:TR D:05/13/93 1:1800 2:1240 193.140.4 YILDIZ-NET3 C:TR D:05/13/93 1:1800 2:1240 193.140.5 YILDIZ-NET4 C:TR D:05/13/93 1:1800 2:1240 193.140.6 YILDIZ-NET5 C:TR D:05/13/93 1:1800 2:1240 193.140.7 YILDIZ-NET6 C:TR D:05/13/93 1:1800 2:1240 193.196.131 MWF-BW C:DE D:05/13/93 1:1324 193.61.85 LEVEL-7 C:GB D:05/13/93 1:297 2:372 193.72.49 UNICC-C2 C:CH D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.72.50 UNICC-C3 C:CH D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.72.51 UNICC-C4 C:CH D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.72.52 UNICC-C5 C:CH D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.72.53 UNICC-C6 C:CH D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.72.54 UNICC-C7 C:CH D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.72.55 UNICC-C8 C:CH D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 193.96.248 BESSY-NET C:DE D:05/13/93 1:701 2:1800 198.133.242 SDSNET C:US D:05/13/93 1:1740 198.137.161 ATTC-NET C:US D:05/13/93 1:1331 198.146.48 DLU-NET C:US D:05/13/93 1:279 2:86 198.3.135 SYNETICS-HQ C:US D:05/13/93 1:701 2:702 198.3.156 PALMER-MEDNET C:US D:05/13/93 1:701 2:702 198.49.81 PSUNET1 C:US D:05/13/93 1:93 198.49.82 PSUNET2 C:US D:05/13/93 1:93 198.51.35 NUANCE-NET C:US D:05/13/93 1:279 2:86 198.59.15 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-15 C:US D:05/13/93 1:209 2:210 198.59.16 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-16 C:US D:05/13/93 1:209 2:210 198.59.23 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-23 C:US D:05/13/93 1:209 2:210 198.59.25 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-25 C:US D:05/13/93 1:209 2:210 198.59.30 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-30 C:US D:05/13/93 1:209 2:210 198.59.31 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-31 C:US D:05/13/93 1:209 2:210 198.59.32 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-32 C:US D:05/13/93 1:209 2:210 198.85.1 EXIDE1-NET C:US D:05/13/93 1:81 2:1327 198.85.2 EXIDE2-NET C:US D:05/13/93 1:81 2:1327 198.97.44 DORDT C:US D:05/13/93 1:1323 200.6.41 FAPERJ C:BR D:05/13/93 1:1740 200.9.73 FINITERRAE-NET C:CL D:05/13/93 1:86 2:279 ------------------------------------------------------------ A Profesional Medical Corporation, 3939 Houma Boulevard, Suite 5, Metairie, LA 70006, USA 1:701 Alternet 2:702 Alternet --------- 198.3.156 PALMER-MEDNET (US) Applied Parallel Research, Inc., 550 Main Streen, Suite I, Placerville, CA 95667, USA 1:2551 NETCOM ----------- 192.187.197 APPLIEDP (US) Applied Technology Training Center, 20000 - 68th Ave. W., Lynnwood, WA 98036, USA 1:1331 ANS Seattle - DNSS 91 ----------- 198.137.161 ATTC-NET (US) BESSY GmbH, Lentzeallee 100, D-W-1000 Berlin 33, GERMANY 1:701 Alternet 2:1800 ICM-Atlantic ---------- 193.96.248 BESSY-NET (DE) Data General Technology, 1, Oranim St., Ramat Ilan, Givat Shmuel, 51905, ISRAEL 1:2149 PSINET-2 2:174 NYSERNet Regional Network / PSI ---------- 192.114.64 DGT-NET (IL) David Lipscomb University, 3901 Granny White Pike, Nashville, TN 37204-3951, USA 1:279 SURANET Regional Network (Georgia Tech) 2:86 SURANET Regional Network (College Park) ---------- 198.146.48 DLU-NET (US) Delfin Systems, 5055 Viewridge, San Deigo, CA 92123, USA 1:2551 NETCOM ----------- 192.187.198 DELFINSD (US) Dordt College, 498 4th Ave. NE, Sioux Center, IA 51250, USA 1:1323 ANS Chicago - DNSS 27 --------- 198.97.44 DORDT (US) Exide Electronics, 3201 Spring Forest Road, Raleigh, NC 27604, USA 1:81 CONCERT 2:1327 ANS Washington D.C. - DNSS 59 -------- 198.85.1 EXIDE1-NET (US) 198.85.2 EXIDE2-NET (US) Fibronics, Matam Industrial Park, Haifa 31905, ISRAEL 1:2149 PSINET-2 2:174 NYSERNet Regional Network / PSI ---------- 192.114.66 FIB-IL1-NET (IL) 192.114.67 FIB-IL2-NET (IL) 192.114.68 FIB-IL3-NET (IL) 192.114.69 FIB-IL4-NET (IL) 192.114.70 FIB-IL5-NET (IL) Fundacao de Amparo a Pesquisa do Estado, Av. Erasmo Braga 118/6 andar, Rio de Janeiro 20.020, BRAZIL 1:1740 CERFnet -------- 200.6.41 FAPERJ (BR) GESCAN International, 35800 Gateway Center Blvd., Suite 380, Morrisville, NC 27560, USA 1:81 CONCERT 2:1327 ANS Washington D.C. - DNSS 59 ---------- 192.154.72 GESCAN-NET (US) Gannon University, Erie, PA 16541, USA 1:204 PSCNET Regional Network 2:1206 PSCNET Regional Network ---------- 192.204.50 GANNON (US) Glaxo, Inc., Corporate Information Technology, 5 Moore Dr., Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA 1:81 CONCERT 2:1327 ANS Washington D.C. - DNSS 59 ---------- 192.154.91 GLAXOCIT-1 (US) 192.154.92 GLAXOCIT-2 (US) 192.154.93 GLAXOCIT-3 (US) Goya Servicios Telematicos, S.A., C/ Clara del Rey 8, 1-7, E-28002 Madrid, SPAIN 1:701 Alternet 2:1800 ICM-Atlantic --------- 193.127.1 GSTNET-1 (ES) 193.127.2 GSTNET-2 (ES) 193.127.3 GSTNET-3 (ES) 193.127.4 GSTNET-4 (ES) Greensboro Area Health Education Center, 1200 North Elm Street, Greensboro, NC 27401, USA 1:81 CONCERT 2:1327 ANS Washington D.C. - DNSS 59 ---------- 192.154.95 GAHEC-NET (US) Hewlett-Packard Company, 3000 Hanover Street, Pato Alto, CA 94304, USA 1:200 BARRNet 2:201 BARRNet 3:2149 PSINET-2 4:174 NYSERNet Regional Network / PSI 5:281 NEARnet Regional Network 6:209 Westnet Regional Network (Colorado Attachment) - ENSS 141 7:210 Westnet Regional Network (Utah Attachment) - ENSS 142 --------- 192.6.113 HP-RACAL-MILGO (US) Interactive Network Technologies, 10500 Richmond Ave., Suite 224, Houston, TX 77042, USA 1:2149 PSINET-2 2:174 NYSERNet Regional Network / PSI ----------- 192.207.188 INT (US) Level 7 Limited, Centennial Court, Easthampstead Road, Bracknell, Berks RG12 1YQ, GB 1:297 Nasa Science Network (FIX-East) 2:372 Nasa Science Network (FIX-West) --------- 193.61.85 LEVEL-7 (GB) London Hospital Medical College, Turner Street, London E1 2AD, UNITED KINGDOM 1:297 Nasa Science Network (FIX-East) 2:372 Nasa Science Network (FIX-West) ------ 161.23 LHMC-AC-UK (GB) Mainsoft Corp., 185 Berry Street Suite 5411, San Francisco, CA 94107, USA 1:2551 NETCOM ----------- 192.187.191 MAINSOFT (US) Ministerium fuer Wissenschaft und Forschung (MWF), Koenigstrasse 46, D-W-7000 Stuttgart 1, GERMANY 1:1324 ANS New York City - DNSS 35 ----------- 193.196.131 MWF-BW (DE) Mother Jones Magazine, 1663 Mission Street, San Francisco, CA 94103, USA 1:2551 NETCOM ----------- 192.187.196 MJONES (US) Nbg-Netz, Wiesenweg 4, D-W-8566 Leinburg, GERMANY 1:1324 ANS New York City - DNSS 35 ----------- 192.109.102 NBG-NET (DE) Nebo School District, 350 S. Main, Spanish Fork, UT 84660, USA 1:210 Westnet Regional Network (Utah Attachment) - ENSS 142 2:209 Westnet Regional Network (Colorado Attachment) - ENSS 141 ----- 160.7 NEBO-NET (US) Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory, 101 SW Main Street, Suite 500, Portland, OR 97204, USA 1:685 NorthWestNet Regional Network 2:73 NorthWestNet Regional Network 3:101 NorthWestNet Regional Network ----------- 192.220.254 NWREL-NET (US) Northwestern Michigan College, 1701 East Front Street, Traverse City, MI 49684, USA 1:237 MichNet (MERIT) 2:233 UMnet (University of Michigan) ----------- 192.195.253 NMC-1 (US) Nuance Network Services, 904 Bob Wallace Ave, Suite 119, Huntsville, AL 35801, USA 1:279 SURANET Regional Network (Georgia Tech) 2:86 SURANET Regional Network (College Park) --------- 198.51.35 NUANCE-NET (US) Oficina de Estudios y Politicas Agrarias, Teatinos 40, piso 8, Santiago, CHILE 1:86 SURANET Regional Network (College Park) 2:279 SURANET Regional Network (Georgia Tech) ------- 163.247 GOVNET (CL) Pittsburg State University, Computer Center, 1701 S. Broadway, Pittsburg, KS 66762, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1:93 MIDnet --------- 198.49.81 PSUNET1 (US) 198.49.82 PSUNET2 (US) SUNY College of Technology, Farmingdale, NY 11735, USA 1:2149 PSINET-2 2:174 NYSERNet Regional Network / PSI ------- 137.125 SUC-TECH-FRM (US) San Antonio Cancer Institute, 8122 Datapoint Drive, Suite 600, San Antonio, TX 78229, USA 1:280 SESQUINET Regional Network ---------- 192.238.16 NET-SACI1 (US) 192.238.17 NET-SACI2 (US) 192.238.18 NET-SACI3 (US) 192.238.19 NET-SACI4 (US) 192.238.20 NET-SACI5 (US) 192.238.21 NET-SACI6 (US) 192.238.22 NET-SACI7 (US) 192.238.23 NET-SACI8 (US) Spectrum Data Services, 4325 La Portalada Drive, Carlsbad, CA 92008-2861, USA 1:1740 CERFnet ----------- 198.133.242 SDSNET (US) Sprint, Government Systems Division, 13221 Woodland Park Road, Herndon, VA 22071, USA 1:1800 ICM-Atlantic 2:1240 ICM-Pacific ---------- 192.157.68 ICMNET-5 (US) State of California Air Resources Board, P.O. Box 2815, Sacramento, CA 95812, USA 1:200 BARRNet 2:201 BARRNet ------- 146.114 ARBNET (US) Swanson Analysis Systems Inc., P.O. Box 65, Johnson Road, Houston, PA 15342, USA 1:204 PSCNET Regional Network 2:1206 PSCNET Regional Network ---------- 192.104.24 SASILAN (US) Synetics Corporation, 540 Edgewater Drive, Wakefield, MA 01880, USA 1:701 Alternet 2:702 Alternet --------- 198.3.135 SYNETICS-HQ (US) Teale Data Center, 2005 Evergreen St., Sacramento, CA 95815, USA 1:200 BARRNet 2:201 BARRNet ------ 165.74 CDE (US) Toho Gakuen Junior College, 3-11 Heiwagaoka, Meito-ku, Nagoya, 465, JAPAN 1:1240 ICM-Pacific 2:1800 ICM-Atlantic ---------- 192.47.184 TOHOGAKUEN (JP) Toyama University, Gofuku 3190, Toyama-shi, JAPAN 1:1240 ICM-Pacific 2:1800 ICM-Atlantic ------ 160.26 TYM-NET (JP) U.S. Army CECOM, AMSEL-RD-CRM-O, Fort Monmouth, NJ 07703, USA 1:19 Milnet (FIX-East) 2:568 Milnet (FIX-West) ----------- 192.188.206 SED-CRM (US) UNC Educational Computing Service, PO BOX 12035, Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA 1:81 CONCERT 2:1327 ANS Washington D.C. - DNSS 59 ----- 152.4 UNCECS-NET (US) UNICC International Computing Centre, Palais des Nations, CH-1211 Geneva 10, SWITZERLAND 1:701 Alternet 2:1800 ICM-Atlantic --------- 193.72.49 UNICC-C2 (CH) 193.72.50 UNICC-C3 (CH) 193.72.51 UNICC-C4 (CH) 193.72.52 UNICC-C5 (CH) 193.72.53 UNICC-C6 (CH) 193.72.54 UNICC-C7 (CH) 193.72.55 UNICC-C8 (CH) Universidad Finis Terrae, Pedro de Valdivia 1543, Santiago, Chile, CHILE 1:86 SURANET Regional Network (College Park) 2:279 SURANET Regional Network (Georgia Tech) -------- 200.9.73 FINITERRAE-NET (CL) Westnet, 3645 Marine St., Boulder, CO 80309, USA 1:209 Westnet Regional Network (Colorado Attachment) - ENSS 141 2:210 Westnet Regional Network (Utah Attachment) - ENSS 142 --------- 198.59.15 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-15 (US) 198.59.16 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-16 (US) 198.59.23 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-23 (US) 198.59.25 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-25 (US) 198.59.30 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-30 (US) 198.59.31 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-31 (US) 198.59.32 NETBLK-WESTNET-59-32 (US) Yildiz Teknik Universitesi, Bilgisayar Bilimleri ve Muhendisligi Bolumu, B Blok Kat:7, Yildiz, Istanbul 80750, TURKEY 1:1800 ICM-Atlantic 2:1240 ICM-Pacific --------- 193.140.2 YILDIZ-NET (TR) 193.140.3 YILDIZ-NET2 (TR) 193.140.4 YILDIZ-NET3 (TR) 193.140.5 YILDIZ-NET4 (TR) 193.140.6 YILDIZ-NET5 (TR) 193.140.7 YILDIZ-NET6 (TR) ------------------------------------------------------------ The following Midlevel/Regional peering sessions have also been added: AS 1975 - University Microfilms, Inc. (US) - ENSS 190 Peer: 192.195.245.14 - University Microfilms, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA - Router name unknown ***************************************************************** The configuration reports which reflect today's update will be available for anonymous ftp on nic.merit.edu by 08:00 EDT: configuration reports -- nic.merit.edu:nsfnet/announced.networks: ans_core.now as-as.now as-gw.now as-site.now country.now gate-gw.now net-comp.now net-ter.now net-net.now netcount.now non-us.now nss-as.now nss-gw.now networks sorted by AS -- nic.merit.edu:nsfnet/announced.networks: nets.as_<AS number> NSS routing software configuration files -- nic.merit.edu:nsfnet/backbone.configuration: nss<NSS number>.t3p Please send all requests for configuration changes to nsfnet-admin(a)merit.edu using the NSFNET configuration forms. The forms are available on-line from the nic.merit.edu machine. Use ftp and the anonymous login to get on the machine. Do a "cd nsfnet/announced.networks" and get the files template.net, template.gate, and template.as. ******************************* --Steve Widmayer Merit/NSFNET skw(a)merit.edu --Enke Chen Merit/NSFNET enke(a)merit.edu --Steven J. Richardson Merit/NSFNET sjr(a)merit.edu

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Re: Supernet block sizes - recommendations?
by Vince Fuller 13 May '93

13 May '93

How large are the supernet blocks that you are getting from the NIC ? The NIC won't hand out anything larger than a block of 1024 networks right now. --Vince

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Supernet block sizes - recommendations?
by Vince Fuller 13 May '93

13 May '93

I recently received a request from one of our sites for a block of 256 network numbers from one of our supernet blocks and have been hesitant to fill it because of the relatively large fraction of the current NIC-allocated maximum lock size (1024 networks) it represents. If I recall correctly, at the Boulder Regional Techs meeting, we talked about "reasonable" block sizes in the 32 to 64 network range. Has anyone thought more about this issue or considered what we should recommend either for the maximum block size to reallocate to our clients or the maximum block size the NIC should allocate to us? --Vince

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Recreational activity before/after Regional Techs meeting?
by Vince Fuller 12 May '93

12 May '93

Would anyone planning to attend the regional techs meeting be interested in a whitewater rafting trip either the day before or the day after the meetings? Early June is the tail end of the prime whitewater season in Pennsylvania and West Virginia and there are two relatively easy rivers (the Cheat, in Albright, WV and the Lower Youghiogheney, in Ohiopyle, PA) within a 3-4 hour drive of the Dulles Airport area. --Vince

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