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Re: Other flapping prefixes. Compare and contrast.
by kwe＠6SigmaNets.com 14 Sep '95

14 Sep '95

At 7:40 AM 9/11/95, Hans-Werner Braun wrote: > >Well, while Sean's wording at times is, ahem, suboptimal, he is >referring to a real problem in the Internet System, and in fact one >that the North American Network Operators Group should take >responsibility for, at least for the North American part. The problem >is what others believe is a strength: an anarchic system of many >autonomous service providers with little or no service model/metrics >(neither for the local nor for the system level), and no well defined >rules of conduct for interoperation and problem resolution. H-W; There was once, and still technically may be, the "User Connectivity Problems" (UCP) working group in the IETF Ops area that began a process for coordination among the then regional NSFnet network's NOCs back in '90 or so. Much of the work accomplished by UCP on developing process for NOC-to-NOC coordination is still valid, but the players have increased in number and are re-inventing this wheel. So, the Internet anarchy has been under attack for some time now. If there is any interest (I know, hacking the configs is #1, formal coordination and documentation are a distant #2) I'll go look up some of the documents. --Kent

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agenda page is up
by sob＠academ.com 14 Sep '95

14 Sep '95

The "home" page for the latest NANOG is up at the following URL: http://www.academ.com/nanog/september1995/index.html The notes will be filled in over the weekend and the slide will be filled in as I get them and process them. Enjoy. -- Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob(a)academ.com Olan | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: amdahl!academ!sob Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.

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New Home for GateD
by Martyne Hallgren 13 Sep '95

13 Sep '95

Folks, Earlier this year, we (Cornell) confronted two events that have had serious implications for the GateDaemon project. Our NSF grant ended in April and the GateD technical leadership has been drawn onto higher priority projects for our campus. At that time, we determined we had three choices in regards to the future of GateD project: a) continue with a maintenance/modest enhancement focus b) shut the project down completely or c) find GateD a new caretaker. Because we believe the GateD continues to be important to the Internet community and requires development and enhancement beyond mere bug-fixes, we chose c) as our plan of action. I am pleased to announce that we are close to reaching closure on the transfer of the GateD project, software and the GateD Consortium to MERIT Network Systems for the University of Michigan. They agree to assume all obligationsand duties of the Licensor of the GateD redistribution licenses and as the Lead Institution under the current GateD Consortium agreement. They are receiving all consortium revenues for fiscal yr 95-96 and beyond, to support this project. They agree to operate the Consortium as provided by the agreements for a period of one year. I have complete confidence in the MERIT staff, led by Elise Gerich, to guide GateD into the future. Susan Hares will be the primary technical contact. They will give this project a burst of energy and focus from their unique position in the Internetworking world. I sincerely hope you will join me in supporting MERIT for the University of Michigan as the new Lead institution. You may contact Elise Gerich at epg(a)merit.edu or Susan Hares at skh(a)merit.edu University of Michigan Merit Network Systems 4251 Plymouth Road Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2785 telephone: 313-764-9430 FAX: 313-747-3185 Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. I am continuing to work on the GateD Consortium as we wrap up the final details of the handoff. The Cornell Office of Sponsored Programs will be sending out an official notice to redistribution license holders and consortium members via paper mail in the near future. Best Regards, Martyne M. Hallgren Executive Director Cornell GateD Consortium

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Lost coat
by Matt Mathis 13 Sep '95

13 Sep '95

There was a black coat left after the Tuesday meeting in Pittsburgh. Please claim it and we will arrange to have it shipped. --MM--

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Speakers: 6th Maryland Workshop on Very High Speed Networks
by Account of Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research 12 Sep '95

12 Sep '95

******************************************************************************* Speaker List 6TH MARYLAND WORKSHOP ON VERY HIGH SPEED NETWORKS ******************************************************************************* 1. Inder Gopal: IBM Watson Research Center (Keynote Address) Electronic Commerce: Technical Issues and Challenges 2. J. H. Maestas: Sandia National Laboratories Experiences with SONET Transport Networks 3. Rick Wilder: MCI The NSF's very-high-speed Backbone Network Service: Architecture and Project Plans 4. J. H. Naegle: Sandia National Laboratories Progress with ATM at Sandia National Laboratories 5. Mani B. Srivastava, P. Agrawal, A. Asthana, M. Cravatts, E. Hyden, P. Krzyzanowski, P. Mishra, B. Narendran, and J. Trotter: AT&T SWAN: Testbed for Mobile Networked Computing 6. Jonathan M. Smith: Univ of Pennsylvania TCP/IP performance of the Penn Afterburner ATM Link Adapter 7. Brad Makrucki: BellSouth Telecomm What's Wrong with Equivalent Bandwidth? 8. Robert J. Aiken: Department of Energy/ Lawrence Livermore Lab The ENERGY of HIgh Speed Networking 9. Vern Paxson: LBL Adapting to Wide-Area Network Dynamics 10. Magda El Zarki: Univ. of Pennsylvania Video over ATM Quality Control 11. Michael Levender: Stratacom Applications Support Over ATM: An Update 12. Bernie Hudson: University of Ottawa High Speed Network Connecting Canada, Europe and North Africa 13. Thomas vonDeak: NASA Lewis Research Center Status of the NASA Advanced Communications Technology Satellite (ACTS) Program and B-ISDN Development 14. Guru Parulkar: Washington University Error Control for Continuous Media Applications 15. Anujan Varma: University of California FAST: A Hardware Simulation Testbed for ATM Network 16. Raj Jain: NSU Traffic management in ATM Networks 17. Donald Smith: Bellcore Adaptive Congestion Controls in SS7 and Implications for Broadband Signaling 18. Javad Boroumand: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center NASA EOSDIS Project ATM Prototyping 19. Ted Faber: USC/ISI Research in the ATOMIC-2 Project at ISI 20. Jorg Liebeherr, I. F. Akyildiz and D. Sarkar: Univ. of Virginia An Explicit Rate Control Scheme for ABR Traffic with Heterogeneous Service Requirements 21. Roch Guerin: IBM Watson Research Center (To be confirmed) <<TITLE(High Speed Networking)>> 22. Bob Collet: Sprint <<TITLE(Sprint's SONET Infrastructure)(To be confirmed)>> NOTE: Other speakers to be confirmed. --------------------------------------------------- 6th Maryland Workshop on Very High Speed Networks --------------------------------------------------- OCTOBER 30-31, 1995 Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research Department of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering University of Maryland Baltimore County The Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research (MCTR) and Department of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering at the University of Maryland Baltimore County (UMBC) in participation with the University of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies (UMIACS), IEEE Communication Society - Gigabit Networking Technical Committee, and IDA/Center for Computing Sciences will hold the 6th Maryland Workshop on Very High Speed Networks on October 30-31, 1995 at the UMBC campus. The Workshop will be held in Ballroom of University Center on the UMBC campus. The workshop is supported by IBM, SUN and Sprint. The goal of the Workshop is to bring together experts in related areas to discuss progress and research issues in the design and implementation of very high speed communication networks. Each of the previous workshops attracted approximately 150 researchers representing academia, industry and government. The two day meeting will include invited speakers and contributed presentations. Papers on selected presentations will appear in a special issue of the Journal of High Speed Networks. For more information on MCTR and directions to UMBC check our home- page on WWW.(http://www.cs.umbc.edu/~mctr) A registration fee of $150 will include two lunches and conference proceeding. For questions regarding the technical content of the workshop or giving a presentation, please contact the workshop organizer, Dr. Deepinder Sidhu, at Tel: (410) 455-3028, Fax: (410) 455-3969, Email: mctr(a)cs.umbc.edu. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6th Maryland Workshop on Very High Speed Networks (October 30-31, 1995) Registration Form Name: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Affiliation: ------------------------------------------------------------- Address: ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- Phone: Fax: Email: ---------------- ------------- ------------ Dietary Restriction : Vegetarian Kosher ---------- ------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail checks (payable to University of Maryland Foundation) and registration form to Dr. D. P. Sidhu, Maryland Center for Telecommunications Research, University of Maryland Baltimore County, Baltimore, MD 21228. All funds for this event will be managed by the UM foundation. We plan to provide free admission to a limited number of students if a grant application is approved. Please DO NOT include hotel accommodation expenses in your payment for the Workshop Registration. Room payment should be made directly to the hotel you selected for stay. The following hotels are closest to UMBC campus. Some hotels may offer reduced rate. To obtain the reduced rate, you must identify yourself as an attendee of this workshop. BWI Airport is approximately five miles from UMBC Campus. 1. Sheraton International Hotel - BWI Airport. Closest to airport and UMBC campus. Tel: (410) 859-3300 or (800) 638-5858 2. Holiday Inn - BWI Airport. Close to airport and UMBC campus. Tel: (410) 859-8400 or (800) HOLIDAY 3. Omni Inner Harbor Hotel. Close to Downtown Baltimore / Inner Harbor. About 20 minutes drive to UMBC campus. Tel: (410) 752-1100 or (800) 843-6664

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Re: tape
by sob＠academ.com 12 Sep '95

12 Sep '95

There will be notes on all that happened at NANOG up next week at the following URL: http://www.academ.com/nanog/september1995 -- Stan | Academ Consulting Services |internet: sob(a)academ.com Olan | For more info on academ, see this |uucp: amdahl!academ!sob Barber | URL- http://www.academ.com/academ |Opinions expressed are only mine.

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Re: tape
by Steven J. Richardson 12 Sep '95

12 Sep '95

There are slides John Vollbrecht is using which will be available on-line at the usual place [I don't remember the exact URL, but it is somewhere under the www.ra.net server]. Steve R. == >From nanog-request(a)MERIT.EDU Tue Sep 12 11:00:22 1995 Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by home.merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id LAA00652; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:00:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) id LAA08128; Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:00:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 11:00:12 -0400 Message-Id: <9509121459.AA12103(a)mailer.psc.edu> To: Nathan Stratton <nathan(a)netrail.net> Cc: nanog(a)MERIT.EDU, mathis(a)zippy.psc.edu Subject: Re: tape In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:40:04 EDT." <Pine.LNX.3.91.950912103844.22716B-100000(a)netrail.net> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:59:49 -0400 From: "Matt Mathis" <mathis(a)zippy.psc.edu> Resent-Message-ID: <"auLdO3.0.-x1.j1QLm"@merit.edu> Resent-From: nanog(a)MERIT.EDU X-Mailing-List: <nanog(a)MERIT.EDU> archive/latest/54 X-Loop: nanog(a)MERIT.EDU Precedence: list Resent-Sender: nanog-request(a)MERIT.EDU Status: R Sorry, we are not recording, and the talk is already in progress. --MM--

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cusemee?
by Michael F. Nittmann 12 Sep '95

12 Sep '95

is it cusemee'd? reflector? Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael F. Nittmann mn(a)ios.com Senior Network Architect ------------ IDT/IOS - Internet Online Services ---------- 294 State Street -------- Hackensack, NJ 07601 ------ ---- +1 (201) 928 1000 xt. 500 -- +1 (201) 928 1057 FAX +1 (201) 441 5861 Pager \/

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tape
by Nathan Stratton 12 Sep '95

12 Sep '95

Hi, I am siting in my hotel room working to get a customer up. I wanted to be at the radius talk. Is this being taped? If so how do I get a tape of it? Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the World! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phone (703)524-4800 NetRail, Inc. Fax (703)534-5033 2007 N. 15 St. Suite B-5 Email sales(a)netrail.net Arlington, Va. 22201 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Access: (703) 524-4802 guest ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Other flapping prefixes. Compare and contrast.
by Sean Doran 12 Sep '95

12 Sep '95

There were several other providers who got notes from me about prefixes that were flapping every several seconds or thereabouts. The tally so far: Polite "we have a ticket open and will get someone to fix things" from three providers (thanks ANS, BBN, EBONE). A trio of no-answer-yets, one of which has since been fixed, one of which will be fixed since I have the advantage of sharing a room with the routing guru of the NSP in question and the bigger advantage of not needing nearly as much sleep. :-) The third no-answer-yet is from a smaller provider in Europe, and I expect they'll get back to me in their morning. Finally, there was the previous reply. Sean. P.S.: Oh, I also have to thank Pushpendra Mohta of CERFNET who replied to an earlier note personally with an explanation of what was going on.

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