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E.E. Times?
by Hank Nussbacher 13 Jan '97

13 Jan '97

Has anyone heard of E.E. Times that did a piece on the Internet and blamed Cisco routers for all the bottlenecks? They quote www.ra.net/statistics and www.academ.com/nanog as well as Craig Lebowitz and Fred Baker. I have a locally translated copy but I would be interested in seeing the original. Thanks, Hank

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Filtering rules
by Hank Nussbacher 12 Jan '97

12 Jan '97

Sprint has publicized its filtering rules in the past. Can anyone who has a filtering rule similiar to Sprint's post it here (as well as Sprint's current rule (I have their 6/96 rules)). Thanks, Hank

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Internic registries
by jordy 12 Jan '97

12 Jan '97

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I was doing some maintanace on some of my domains a few days back and decided to update my Internic contact information. Low and behold I found that the company field in the whois query was wrong. I did a whois on a few other internic handles I know and it looks as if they are wrong as well. I thought at first that maybe someone changed my Internic contact registration (which is why I'm sending my PGP key to them right now), but the last update time is months ago, and I'm sure I would have noticed it before now. So did Internic's whois server break? Or did their registery get corrupt? - -- Jordan Mendelson : www.wserv.com/~jordy Web Services, Inc. : www.wserv.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMtfN2hA7rx9toVxZAQFz+AP8Cy2WMeemqq7utDt2OIFWEI/ZLSs+VlRI JZsRGPQjHcrz2yHSXeWvg24SKBRlgy2O7OTRMclZaEAmsOTfA4fIAoR5cT5uXcyK Oo7fz0Xwt+sXvGrc4SFjiJyHMBAc71ohakhFVDafqyWipjb+04HCV7VN5zk7TgKV xsVnGzgx+SA= =tuPj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Internic registries
by William Sommers 12 Jan '97

12 Jan '97

On Sat, 11 Jan 1997 20:23:37 -0500 (EST) Mark Kosters wrote: > I see this and have noticed in the change logs that the whois dumper > program was recently updated. I've backed out the change and the old > info will return by 6:00AM or so tomorrow. > > (Ingres database looks ok but obviously whois is not). > > Thanks, > Mark Were I InterNIC management, I'd be wondering why it took an employee perusing an off-topic thread in this list to have the problem brought to somebody's attention. I reported it to action(a)internic.net yesterday morning, at which time it had already been going on for at least a day. Then again, since I've long been convinced my mail to InterNIC is just plain blackholed anyway (based on a response rate of exactly 0% to date), I don't know why I thought that one would have been treated any differently. (Sorry, couldn't resist.) :-) William Sommers San Francisco Online Televolve, Inc. sommers(a)sfo.com

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Re: Internic registries
by Brian Pettingell 11 Jan '97

11 Jan '97

> Dave, > > It wasn't just March 18. I think the whole db is corrupt (it was ok a > couple of weeks ago). > > > Joffe, Rodney L (RJ48) rjoffe(a)GENUITY.NET > Conco Companies > 4041 N. Central Avenue > 16th Floor > Phoenix, AZ 85012 > (602)207-6404 (602)207-6400 (FAX) (602)207-6410 > > Record last updated on 06-Aug-96. > > I've never even heard of Conco. Hrrmm.. I sure hope it isn't spreading. I can remember mine being messed up about six months ago?, around the time they implemeted the "guardian", however, my handle is okay at the present. I did have to change it though when I found out it was messed up. Pettingell, Brian E [Network Engineer] (BP221) bpetting(a)GENUITY.NET GENUITY 4041 N. Central suite 400 Phoenix, Az 85012 (602) 207-6400 (FAX) (602) 207-6410 Record last updated on 21-Sep-96. Brian -- Brian Pettingell Backbone Engineer G E N U I T Y

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RE: Internic registries
by Rodney Joffe 11 Jan '97

11 Jan '97

Dave, It wasn't just March 18. I think the whole db is corrupt (it was ok a couple of weeks ago). Joffe, Rodney L (RJ48) rjoffe(a)GENUITY.NET Conco Companies 4041 N. Central Avenue 16th Floor Phoenix, AZ 85012 (602)207-6404 (602)207-6400 (FAX) (602)207-6410 Record last updated on 06-Aug-96. I've never even heard of Conco. Rodney Joffe Chief Technology Officer Genuity Inc., a Bechtel company http://www.genuity.net >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Pokorney [SMTP:dp@ufl.edu] >Sent: Saturday, January 11, 1997 2:31 PM >To: jordy >Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu; Dallas Antley >Subject: Re: Internic registries > >Jordy, > >You are not alone. Dallas is having some trouble with his dna.org domain. >We are both about to give up trying to get them to repair it as well. >Your email prompted me to check my handle and that too has been corrupted. >Looks like March 18 may have been a bad day for the Internic. I work for >the Northeast Regional Data Center at UF, not Vega Solutions... > >dp@nersp $ whois dp173 >Pokorney, Dave (DP173) dp(a)UFL.EDU > Vega Solutions > Rm.112 SSRB, University of Florida > Gainesville, FL 32611 > 352-392-2061 > > Record last updated on 18-Mar-96. > > >Let us know how you manage to convince them to repair it. good luck, I'm >sure the University of Florida is pleased to hear that Vega Solutions is >doing business on their premis. Guess I need to submit another update >request for my own handle this time. Past requests (before dna.org >corruption) have been handled without trouble sigh, -d > >-- >On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, jordy wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> >> I was doing some maintanace on some of my domains a few days back and >> decided to update my Internic contact information. Low and behold I found >> that the company field in the whois query was wrong. I did a whois on a >> few other internic handles I know and it looks as if they are wrong as >> well. >> >> I thought at first that maybe someone changed my Internic contact >> registration (which is why I'm sending my PGP key to them right now), but >> the last update time is months ago, and I'm sure I would have noticed it >> before now. >> >> So did Internic's whois server break? Or did their registery get corrupt? >> >> - -- >> Jordan Mendelson : www.wserv.com/~jordy >> Web Services, Inc. : www.wserv.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: 2.6.2 >> >> iQCVAwUBMtfN2hA7rx9toVxZAQFz+AP8Cy2WMeemqq7utDt2OIFWEI/ZLSs+VlRI >> JZsRGPQjHcrz2yHSXeWvg24SKBRlgy2O7OTRMclZaEAmsOTfA4fIAoR5cT5uXcyK >> Oo7fz0Xwt+sXvGrc4SFjiJyHMBAc71ohakhFVDafqyWipjb+04HCV7VN5zk7TgKV >> xsVnGzgx+SA= >> =tuPj >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> > >

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Re: Domain names for ISP infrastructure links
by Peter Lothberg 11 Jan '97

11 Jan '97

> > So how do we name internal links in a way that is usefull for > > all operators, and conforms to the A-Z 0-9 and "-" and can > > be proposed as an RFC? > How about the Sprintlink: I where not thinking on SL only, I where looking at something more generic. > sl-pop-router#-port[-speed].sprintlink.net The speed thing is debatable, some people wants it, someone does not, and someone are willing to pay me $50/mont to make DNS say OC3c on their DS0. SL-POP-ROUTER is kindof Sprint specific, others have other ideas on how to name routers, how about this; router-slot#-port#[-port#][-ts#-#][-dlci#].europa.net Where "router" is something that is syntactically correct. A cisco with a VIP in slot 0 and a hssi in PA-slot 1 with a HSSI port in 0 would be; peter-bath-room-slot0-port1-port0.europa.net Ts for timeslots on a chanalized card Dlci for a flame-delay circiut ATM? X.25? SMDS? > But instead of h0/0, use h0-0; s2-6; etc... Is this actually usefull, the NOC person will be guided to the right box/slot/port and can use other tools to figure out the media type, wich is in my opionion not very usefull to knew. > i.e. icm-petersbathroom-2-s2-1-512.icp.net Nope, my routers have another naming convention, bathroom is for example, r29a.. --Peter

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Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny
by Vadim Antonov 11 Jan '97

11 Jan '97

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dan Busarow wrote: >I'm not trying to discourage the use of PGP, just point out that >it is unlikely to solve the problem at hand. >Long term, yes, today, no. Depends on what you think "today" is :) I'm old enough to see way many things change -- when i started hacking, computers with no ICs in them were still quite useful. - --vadim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBMtdWq0DODjim2XUVAQFRyAP8DrKTVfeDyG+Rni6p9tVl/7/LjG9h9YQ0 PnfCYS4jiFkWUtioGvToJxWIR0i+hYpYNj4qZfcH911bvVFEV9P+rQCMPqGJSPJ5 PXZ9wuwx134NBoTU2n2VGNsBRKxWtp7xXjiyEUV9oMBInPIOSgCLMcfxDGIi/NJp OSe5d1WSmgE= =rAAf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny
by Vadim Antonov 11 Jan '97

11 Jan '97

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >The Usenix key signing is a good model for techie types, but >we are the minority. How would the great unwashed have their >keys signed? This looks like a business opportunity. I think it may make sense for somebody to establish a nation wide network of Public Notaries who'd be certifying that the physical person has this-and-that document (drivers license, etc) and has that key. A central office would maintain a registry of personal keys. We all could use the registry to verify the signatures. Such certification could cost something like $10 per key. I'd certainly be willing to pay that much to have a certified key. Given the potential customer base of 20-50 million, that would make a nice business case. - --vadim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBMtcm6kDODjim2XUVAQEAzAP/VwfOex0ZonDepPv0xHVpB4A5ZG06DfZ7 O1BZqFzEGwvkjcsubuaE8FoOIZX6Mp26lCWM5G7VJkDCPVILjn9/ZzyB2gU+qZD1 HOGmkAf92V/EG8VfuIQSVIP9DuEwtd3FGJ4NkQyNIyi+ZrheYXTnE/mpNX+TqVDl aU7yPfmDbHE= =nVVX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ..

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Re: Update on mail bombing threats--not so funny
by Paul Ferguson 11 Jan '97

11 Jan '97

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 07:09 PM 1/10/97 -0800, Dan Busarow wrote: > >So in order to post to nanog you would have to have your PGP >key signed by NANOG or the list operator or another entity trusted >by all. How do you establish trust for that signing? > Having a key-signing party at the upcoming NANOG is a good place to start. >The Usenix key signing is a good model for techie types, but >we are the minority. How would the great unwashed have their >keys signed? Besides, I like being able to post without having to >attend a NANOG meeting though I could live with the restriction. Strong crypto for the masses! For what it's worth, the same model holds true for meetings of the IETF; Ted Tso has been organizing key-signing parties that are held one evening during IETF week. - - paul -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMtcOs5RLcZSdHMBNAQF8HQQAi+p3dsTucTTXPD7tMvNIUFn3DKgBTjjX JExLVyCojuq2fIIWRAlS/o14Rqy7nQK4aULDVo07Gz1jIpTygJLyOPT44XsozFAz IvgVdpS0np11u422mxQ+NMG72pIJyyucZSQq2FzLVidleChnWcBqysQsb2/JP+BO jej9ymeAjNA= =E37p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAiuk0/8AAAEEALqlLc+x9lmgiJCRSpu/aPhQdi0hMjwiGlN2B/GJQqgZPhTb pR+u5/blGogqT+WwcXZ2XfEdIV19FrJY4BXGGn4+4TjdVN3XuuCHuueoygBAmOQD IloU6SJuDqJa0kFA5X/i/1ELn86I5+8A4Hx88FiYJIVUBR6SApRLcZSdHMBNAAUR tCJQYXVsIEZlcmd1c29uIDxwZmVyZ3Vzb0BjaXNjby5jb20+ =p8D4 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -- Paul Ferguson || || Consulting Engineering || || Herndon, Virginia USA |||| |||| tel: +1.703.397.5938 ..:||||||:..:||||||:.. e-mail: pferguso(a)cisco.com c i s c o S y s t e m s

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