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Re: usable T1 bandwidth
by Mike Heroux 18 Mar '97

18 Mar '97

> How much of the 1.544 Mbits/second of a T1 are available to IP? I know > some bits are taken for framing and such. I think I remember it is > around 1.3 something. > It's better than that, but the topic is inappropriate to this list, so... So you bothered to clutter it up with even more senseless mail. (much like this reply) This list gets so pathetic at times.. Is anybody else on this list younger than 20? --mike

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Re: usable T1 bandwidth
by Sean Doran 18 Mar '97

18 Mar '97

Ok, so you're under 20. What time is it? Sean.

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Re: usable T1 bandwidth
by Matthew E. Pearson 18 Mar '97

18 Mar '97

At 12:36 PM 3/18/97 -0800, David Carmean wrote: >A polite "that question is more appropriately asked on the inet-access >list" or similar would have been just fine. > I agree.. >You bitch about new network operators who don't know how to keep their >BGP announcements clean, and who don't know about the politics and >procedures of peering vs. transit, and the NAPs and elsewhere. But >let someone come here and try to learn, and you turn your nose up and >try to shame them out of your sight. > Actually I usually see a 50% flame 50% helpfull reply anytime I post. So I just use my standard rule of thumb.. 90% of the people in the world are total morons and 10% have some clue. So with a 50/50 split I think the overall clue level is quite a bit higher here. >You should be ashamed of yourselves. I am ashamed everytime I look at my paycheck. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew Pearson Vice President of Development Games-Online Inc. http://www.games-online.com -----------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: usable T1 bandwidth
by Christopher Montano 18 Mar '97

18 Mar '97

RE>>usable T1 bandwidth 3/18/97 where is the "approved topics list" by the way ... curious. -------------------------------------- Date: 3/18/97 11:48 AM To: Christopher Montano From: Tony Li How much of the 1.544 Mbits/second of a T1 are available to IP? I know some bits are taken for framing and such. I think I remember it is around 1.3 something. It's better than that, but the topic is inappropriate to this list, so... Tony ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by mail.hamquist.com with ADMIN;18 Mar 1997 11:43:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by merit.edu (8.8.5/merit-2.0) with SMTP id OAA13330; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:34:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by merit.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:31:47 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by merit.edu (8.8.5/merit-2.0) id OAA13254 for nanog-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.jnx.com (red.jnx.com [208.197.169.254]) by merit.edu (8.8.5/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id OAA13242 for <nanog(a)merit.edu>; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from chimp.jnx.com (chimp.jnx.com [208.197.169.246]) by red.jnx.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA02382; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tli@localhost) by chimp.jnx.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id LAA10948; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:08:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:08:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703181908.LAA10948(a)chimp.jnx.com> From: Tony Li <tli(a)jnx.com> To: crumley(a)trinet.com (Steve Crumley) cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: usable T1 bandwidth References: <199703181746.MAA12945(a)blusky.trinet.com> Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu

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Re: usable T1 bandwidth
by Alex Rubenstein 18 Mar '97

18 Mar '97

1536 kb/s (24 x 64 kb/s). But, protocol (PPP and IP) overhead can eat a lot of that, 10-20%) At 12:46 PM 3/18/97 -0500, Steve Crumley wrote: >How much of the 1.544 Mbits/second of a T1 are available to IP? I know >some bits are taken for framing and such. I think I remember it is >around 1.3 something. >Thanks, >-Steve >

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Re: NANOG 10
by John R. Sosebee 18 Mar '97

18 Mar '97

At 01:59 PM 3/18/97 -0500, Pam Ciesla wrote: > >Will be held in Tampa, Florida June 5th & 6th. All info is available via Is this just coincidence that cisco Networkers '97 is June 3-5 in Orlando. little over an hour from Tampa ? -Paul F. ... can you say "a week at the beach ? " >http://www.nanog.org/. Networking tutorial is scheduled 7:00-9:00PM >Wednesday evening (subject TBA). Please note payment information on the >registration page before registering. Any questions contact me at >(313)936-0172 or e-mail. Thanks > Pam Ciesla > John sosebee(a)bellsouth.net (770) 392-4300

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NANOG 10
by Pam Ciesla 18 Mar '97

18 Mar '97

Will be held in Tampa, Florida June 5th & 6th. All info is available via http://www.nanog.org/. Networking tutorial is scheduled 7:00-9:00PM Wednesday evening (subject TBA). Please note payment information on the registration page before registering. Any questions contact me at (313)936-0172 or e-mail. Thanks Pam Ciesla

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Re: FYI: BBN/MCI Peering Change 3/31/97
by Dave Curado 18 Mar '97

18 Mar '97

>>> The technical impact of this change is that MCI will no longer announce >>> BBN routes at the public interconnects, except to those providers who >>> have purchased transit service from MCI. >> You're inferring I can buy transit from MCI at the naps. >> If that is true, please let me know. I meant implying -- please, no more corrections needed. =-) > Not at all. The only inference you can draw is that MCI does > indeed sell transit services, and that as part of that service, > they will announce BBN routes to you. Indeed, they will announce > everyone's routes to you if you so desire as a transit customer. > No claims, or even vague references are made as to how or where > that transit service connection is made. Um, yes, I think there was at least a vague reference in there. =-) (read it again) My intention, by the way, is not to simply pick nits over a posting. I have heard in the past that there is at least one major provider who sells transit through the naps. Regardless of whether that is an OK thing to do or not, I am sincerely interested in knowing if that is true. > I know MCI will be quite willing to provide you transit services > over a DS3 you purchase from them. Of course, there's the matter of the > small additional fee for transit services. :-) You're implying they won't sell me transit over a T1? (just kidding) davec

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Re: FYI: BBN/MCI Peering Change 3/31/97
by Dave Curado 18 Mar '97

18 Mar '97

> The technical impact of this change is that MCI will no longer announce > BBN routes at the public interconnects, except to those providers who > have purchased transit service from MCI. You're inferring I can buy transit from MCI at the naps. If that is true, please let me know. davec

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request for data
by Scott Yoneyama 17 Mar '97

17 Mar '97

Does anyone know some sources I can go to for data on bandwidth needs, technological marketplace, and other telecommunications information (i.e. number of major corporations, carriers, etc.) for the Bay Area and Los Angeles? I trying to justify some network expansion and need to focus the data on not only those marketplaces, but be able to pull enough specific data to show the effect on the northwest. All suggestions are desparately appreciated! Scott Yoneyama Director Starcom Service Corporation 206-448-4034 206-448-4485 fax yone(a)wolfenet.com

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