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MCI Planned Maintenance
by James Farrar 09 May '97

09 May '97

To NANOG Members: As you know, in order to keep our Internet backbone operating at peak performance levels, it is necessary to provide periodic maintenance and upgrades to the network. This note is to let you know that such maintenance will occur this weekend during non-peak hours -- Saturday, May 10 from 2 a.m. to 7 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time. During this period, some customers may experience sub-optimal routing, delays, and brief periods of lost connectivity to some sites. We apologize for any problems this may cause you or your customers. However, we believe this maintenance will enable MCI to better serve our customers and the Internet community. MCI Internet Operations

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Re: REMINDER
by Brad Miller 09 May '97

09 May '97

There are no rooms left at the discount rate. The current rate is $195.00. Wow. At 08:36 AM 5/9/97 -0400, Pam Ciesla wrote: > >The Hyatt Regency room rate cut-off date is May 15. The phone number >is 1-800-233-1234 or (813) 874-1234, be sure to mention NANOG. The >attendee list has been updated. If you are not on the list and should >be please contact me. If you are planning on calling with payment info >please note that I will be out of the office Monday, 5/12 & Tuesday, 5/13. >Registration fee of $100.00 is due by May 28. Cost after the 28th is $120.00. > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Pam Ciesla 313-936-0172 - phone >Merit Network, Inc. 313-647-3185 - fax >University of Michigan >4251 Plymouth Road >Bldg. I, Suite C >Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________ Brad Miller 703-448-4470 ext. 424 Director of Operations bmill(a)cais.com CAIS Internet

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Re: Coincidence...
by Vadim Antonov 09 May '97

09 May '97

On Mon, 5 May 1997, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: : :When Sprint initially enacted peering requirements, I asked several :UUnet employees whether they were planning to do the same. The answer :was without exception that UUnet pursues peering with all technically :qualified providers at all exchange points, because that results in :the best connectivity for UUnet customers. Edward Fang <edfang(a)visi.net> wrote: > >Actually I think this was once one of their boasting points. Boasting is fine until economic realities start to affect your bottom line. I always held to the opinion that stratification of Internet is inevitable. Neither it is a bad phenomenon per se -- it reflect shifing of Internet being add-on service to being a core business of facilities based telecom companies. The ultimate win will be a network which is a lot more useful, with solid and sustainable business model. --vadim

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Re: NAP building
by randy＠psg.com 09 May '97

09 May '97

>> This is NAnog. Can you folk keep your local war over there, please? >> Thanks. > Randy, we'll do that if you promise to stick your head between your > legs and kiss your arse. If it will shut up your pathetic whining. randy

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Hotel for Tampa NANOG Meeting
by Pam Ciesla 09 May '97

09 May '97

If you call the 800-233-1234 number for the Hyatt and are told the meeting rate is no longer available please call the hotel's direct number (813) 874-1234. This is in the process of being corrected, however, sometimes the 800 number is not up to date. Thanks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Pam Ciesla 313-936-0172 - phone Merit Network, Inc. 313-647-3185 - fax University of Michigan 4251 Plymouth Road Bldg. I, Suite C Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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REMINDER
by Pam Ciesla 09 May '97

09 May '97

The Hyatt Regency room rate cut-off date is May 15. The phone number is 1-800-233-1234 or (813) 874-1234, be sure to mention NANOG. The attendee list has been updated. If you are not on the list and should be please contact me. If you are planning on calling with payment info please note that I will be out of the office Monday, 5/12 & Tuesday, 5/13. Registration fee of $100.00 is due by May 28. Cost after the 28th is $120.00. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Pam Ciesla 313-936-0172 - phone Merit Network, Inc. 313-647-3185 - fax University of Michigan 4251 Plymouth Road Bldg. I, Suite C Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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EarthLink eats spammers for lunch
by Randall S. Benn 09 May '97

09 May '97

Another victory yesterday in the war against spam. Randy > Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Diane Wayne found that Cyber > Promotions' actions constituted a trespass upon EarthLink's computer > resources and granted, in full, EarthLink's requested preliminary > injunctive relief. > > The court prohibited Cyber Promotions from: > > -- sending unsolicited e-mail advertisements to EarthLink members; > > -- using EarthLink's computer network, systems, equipment, e-mail > system and servers without prior authorization; > > -- preventing or denying EarthLink's right or ability to block the > offending e-mails; and > > -- inserting false references to EarthLink or its systems, > > equipment or domain addresses in any e-mail advertisement, > > including falsely identifying EarthLink or its users > > as the source of the e-mail. > > Judge Wayne found that Cyber Promotions had and was engaged in the > "past and current transmission of unsolicited e-mail advertisements > without (EarthLink's) consent" resulting in a "deleterious effect" > on EarthLink's systems and operations. > > She also cited Cyber Promotions' practice of disguising the true > source of e-mail's originating from its system, as well as its > advertisement of this capability to its co-spammers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Randall S. Benn rbenn(a)clark.net Internetworking Consultant http://www.clark.net/pub/rbenn CCIE #1637 Network design, analysis, installation & training -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: NAP building
by Bill Unsworth 09 May '97

09 May '97

A number of meetings have been held over the last two months. A web site www.manap.org will be on - line shortly with background information and progress reports. If you want to go onto the mailing list please drop an email to mike.kelly(a)mcc.ac.uk. 12 LINX members and about 10 local ISPs have indicated interest. The company is being formed at the moment and the MOU is almost finished with some final points to resolve. The location will be at Manchester Computing. Bill At 11:04 AM 09-05-97 +0100, you wrote: >> >> >> Roll on the second UK exchange point - MaNAP (should be >> operational June/July), but I fail to see what all this >> has to do with Nanog. >> >Who has commited to connect to the alleged exchange point? >Neil. >-- >Neil J. McRae - Alive and Kicking. D O M I N O >neil(a)DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc - 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) > Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">Computer!</A> > > U-NET Ltd "Easy Internet Access" mailto:bill@u-net.net http://www.u-net.net/ Tel 01925 484444 Fax 01925 484466

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Re: NAP building
by Bill Unsworth 09 May '97

09 May '97

Roll on the second UK exchange point - MaNAP (should be operational June/July), but I fail to see what all this has to do with Nanog. Bill At 09:20 AM 09-05-97 +0100, you wrote: >> >> >> In a previous message Neil J. McRae wrote: >> > >> > Make sure it isn't Telehouse though! Someone at Telehouse London pressed >> > the wrong button and took out the entire power to the south side of >> > the building, nearly ever ISP in the UK, and the LINX too, was knocked >> > out for around 45 minutes today. >> >> Sorry, only UK ISPs that are careless enough to route *all* their International >> connectivity thru Telehouse were "knocked out" - We, and various others ONLY >> lost connectivity to those customers with a single line to our equipment >> in Telehouse. >> UK->UK traffic (to those other ISPs that survived) just re-routed >> through Stockholm, Amsterdam, USA etc etc etc > >OK Richard, All ISP's where affected then, the point is Telehouse is a disaster >zone and there is way too much UK [and European too] traffic passing through, >the bulding. > >> Sorry, Telehouse has a *much* better power record than most places I know - >> some of the US mae's dont even have mains backup supply. > >Well you are a nutcase for plugging into a MAE ;) > >THe point is Telehouse claim this mondo wonderful power resiliance and its >just not true. > >FYI: I was standing in the 1st floor ops room and watched everything go off, >YES THATS RIGHT! The management system that Telehouse use went off too! >so they didn't have a clue where the fault was! [eggs basket one springs to >mind]. > >Cheers, >Neil. >-- >Neil J. McRae - Alive and Kicking. D O M I N O >neil(a)DOMINO.ORG NetBSD/sparc - 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) > Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">Computer!</A> > > U-NET Ltd "Easy Internet Access" mailto:bill@u-net.net http://www.u-net.net/ Tel 01925 484444 Fax 01925 484466

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NAP building
by Tung-Hui Hu 09 May '97

09 May '97

Hi, I was tossing the idea around of building a local IXP in the San Diego metropolitan area. But I have a lot of dumb questions to ask. I'd like to talk to someone who has built an IXP. If you would respond by private e-mail, I'd appreciate it. Thanks for the help. I'll summarize if there is enough interest. Tung-Hui Hu hhui(a)arcfour.com

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