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"REMINDER" NANOG MEETING
by Pam Ciesla 25 Sep '97

25 Sep '97

The room block on the Radisson Resort ends Friday, 9/26 at midnight. The hotel WILL NOT honor the price of $155 per night after the deadline. Information on the hotel is available on the NANOG web page http://www.nanog.org. Thanks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Pam Ciesla 313-936-0172 - phone Merit Network, Inc. 313-647-3185 - fax University of Michigan 4251 Plymouth Road Bldg. I, Suite C Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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AAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!
by Jay R. Ashworth 25 Sep '97

25 Sep '97

Apologies to all; I hit the send key before noticing that using 'g'roup reply to address my comments to Sean had put a carbon on it to the list. Hadn't meant to inundate you all. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra(a)baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "People propose, science studies, technology Tampa Bay, Florida conforms." -- Dr. Don Norman +1 813 790 7592

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Responsible Network Management Guidelines
by Sean Donelan 25 Sep '97

25 Sep '97

I've been reminded I was going to update my draft of Responsible Network Management Guidelines. The latest version is available at http://dranet.dra.com/draft-donelan-rnmg-latest.txt. In addition to any substantive comments, now is the time to correct the grammer and spelling nits. I plan on throwing this into the Informational RFC process before the next IETF meeting. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Re: Filter on postoffice.reston.mci.net
by Danny McPherson 25 Sep '97

25 Sep '97

Hmmm.. postmaster(a)mci.net? -danny > Okay, I give up. Apparently MCI has an SMTP filter either > on the domain netins.net or on something in the 167.142.0.0/16 > network on postoffice.reston.mci.net. > > [167.142.225.4]$ telnet postoffice.reston.mci.net 25 > Trying 204.70.128.20... > Connected to postoffice.reston.mci.net. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 postoffice.Reston.mci.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.5/8.8.5; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 11:2) > HELO netins.net > 250 postoffice.Reston.mci.net Hello kevin(a)worf.netins.net [167.142.225.4], > pleased.. > MAIL FROM:<kevin(a)netins.net> > 550 Access denied > QUIT > > I've called the iNOC, they sent me to a 'systems group'. The systems > group listened carefully and wrote down the error code '550 Access > denied' before shuffling me off to the Reston office. There, I spoke > to a very nice sales person, who searched a list of voicemail boxes > she might forward me to. > > We pay MCI good money, and find ourselves unable to send mail to > trouble(a)mci.net or other MCI addresses. Now I'm stuck in the MCI > phone maze. If there was an incedent warrenting an SMTP filter, > we'd certainly deal with it if notified. I know if that happened > with one of our downstream customers, we'd actually contact them > before throwing in filters. > > Anyone know who takes care of postoffice.reston.mci.net ? > > Kevin

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Re: Looking for Peerage Contacts
by Avi Freedman 25 Sep '97

25 Sep '97

Welcome, oh Knight of the Packet Table, to the Land of Peerage. > Does anyone have a contact name/number/email address handy for > peering contacts with the following? > > MCI > Sprint > UUNET/Worldcom/ANS/Compuserve . . . (Man is that list getting LONG) > PSI peering(a)network.net usually gets someone appropriate. If not, noc(a)network.net can redirect you appropriately. > We am entering the closing phases of bringing up our NAP > connections, (4 so far), and would appreciate the contact info to > help facilitate the peering process. > > Paul Flores > Williams Communications Group > (918) 588-5172 Avi

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Re: Looking for Peerage Contacts
by bmanning＠ISI.EDU 24 Sep '97

24 Sep '97

> > Does anyone have a contact name/number/email address handy for > peering contacts with the following? > > MCI > Sprint > UUNET/Worldcom/ANS/Compuserve . . . (Man is that list getting LONG) > PSI > > We am entering the closing phases of bringing up our NAP > connections, (4 so far), and would appreciate the contact info to > help facilitate the peering process. > > Paul Flores > Williams Communications Group > (918) 588-5172 Hi Paul, Generally, you'll be introduced to the NAP community and given the basic tools to contact other parties at the given NAP. Broad area announcements to lists like this may get you what you want, but most exchanges have local lists for technical coordination. -- --bill

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Filter on postoffice.reston.mci.net
by Kevin Houle 24 Sep '97

24 Sep '97

Okay, I give up. Apparently MCI has an SMTP filter either on the domain netins.net or on something in the 167.142.0.0/16 network on postoffice.reston.mci.net. [167.142.225.4]$ telnet postoffice.reston.mci.net 25 Trying 204.70.128.20... Connected to postoffice.reston.mci.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 postoffice.Reston.mci.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.5/8.8.5; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 11:2) HELO netins.net 250 postoffice.Reston.mci.net Hello kevin(a)worf.netins.net [167.142.225.4], pleased.. MAIL FROM:<kevin(a)netins.net> 550 Access denied QUIT I've called the iNOC, they sent me to a 'systems group'. The systems group listened carefully and wrote down the error code '550 Access denied' before shuffling me off to the Reston office. There, I spoke to a very nice sales person, who searched a list of voicemail boxes she might forward me to. We pay MCI good money, and find ourselves unable to send mail to trouble(a)mci.net or other MCI addresses. Now I'm stuck in the MCI phone maze. If there was an incedent warrenting an SMTP filter, we'd certainly deal with it if notified. I know if that happened with one of our downstream customers, we'd actually contact them before throwing in filters. Anyone know who takes care of postoffice.reston.mci.net ? Kevin

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Re[2]: Extending a MAE connection ...
by Rocky Rosas 24 Sep '97

24 Sep '97

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Extending a MAE connection ...
by Alex Rubenstein 24 Sep '97

24 Sep '97

Here is a question.. a strange one, no less. Is it feasible to do this: WASHINGTON DC NEW YORK CITY | B R I D G E | MAE -- 100 Mb/s -- | Cisco | -DS3- | Cisco | -- FDDI or -- (multiple East FDDI | 4700M | | 4700M | 100Base T peers) giga Switch Why? here's why. Several folks in the same building in NYC want to connect to MAE-East. But, we all don't want T1's or 10 Meg HLI to MAE-East, but DS3. So, this allows us all to connect to the MAE, peer directly with others without an intermediary ASN, and we can split the cost of the routers and the DS3. I know (at least, I can't think of any reason it can't be done) that is can be done. The unanswered questions are: 1) Will MFS allow us to connect multiple Peers on the same FDDI port (from thier webpage, it looks like it, but I am not sure). 2) Is there any technical reason that the above is bad? 3) Because we do it the way shown above, does that make us look less attractive (politically) ? Thanks for any input on this. If there is anything I am missing, please slap me. Thanks.

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Looking for Peerage Contacts
by pflores＠ns1.wcg.net 24 Sep '97

24 Sep '97

Does anyone have a contact name/number/email address handy for peering contacts with the following? MCI Sprint UUNET/Worldcom/ANS/Compuserve . . . (Man is that list getting LONG) PSI We am entering the closing phases of bringing up our NAP connections, (4 so far), and would appreciate the contact info to help facilitate the peering process. Paul Flores Williams Communications Group (918) 588-5172

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