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Internic busted
by William Allen Simpson 25 Feb '98

25 Feb '98

If you are happy with the proposal that NSI continue to be the monopoly registrar, for an extra 2 years, then do nothing. Otherwise, perhaps you would be willing to send _your_ anecdotal experience to someone that could do something about it: your government minister, your US Congressional Representative or Senator, or the persons that schedule hearings on these matters. If a US person or company, you might want to send a short note ASKING for the House Science committee (probably the technology sub-committee) to meet to review the NSF/NSI imbroglio, or ASKING for the House Commerce committee to review the Magaziner proposed Rule. Here are the general contacts: James Sensenbrenner Science Committee 2320 Rayburn Washington DC 20515 Connie Morella Science Technology sub-committee 2319 Rayburn Washington DC 20515 Thomas Blyley Commerce Committee 2125 Rayburn Washington DC 20515 John Dingell Commerce Committee 2125 Rayburn Washington DC 20515 WSimpson(a)UMich.edu Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32

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Re: circuits in WVA?
by William Allen Simpson 25 Feb '98

25 Feb '98

> From: Jeremiah Kristal <jeremiah(a)fs.IConNet.NET> > Has anyone had any recent luck provisioning circuits into West Virginia? > I have been trying to order two DS-3s and haven't been able to find any > IXCs that can do it. Is there really no capacity whatsoever into WVA or > am I just not talking to the correct people? Have had similar problems into another rural state (Mississippi). But the problem is not limited to rural, I heard that Merit could not get another DS3 up to Ann Arbor Michigan for over 9 months last year. I found that the problem is not actually lack of capacity, but rather that they want to sell you their enhanced services instead of raw bandwidth. And it has gotten worse (at least in MS) with the merger of LDDS and WilTel and MCI and their grandmother. Nowhere left to turn. We've been looking into leasing microwave, or leasing tower space and putting in spread spectrum, and maybe filing as a CLEC. All much harder than we'd like.... WSimpson(a)UMich.edu Key fingerprint = 17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26 DD 0D B9 9B 6A 15 2C 32

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Spam which is designed to crash POP and many mail readers...
by Barry Shein 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

[More proof that these "spammers" aren't selling anything, they're just garden-variety petit criminals trying to disrupt the internet...] Anyhow, has anyone else seen this recent spate of spam which is basically designed to crash POP and Netscape and other programs in the past few days? It's not you, they've found "from" addresses which cause problems, the usual first symptom is a bunch of people complaining about "stuck" POP locks or problems with Netscape, elm and other mail readers. [Oh yeah I'm suuuurrrre these are just "honest" business people, who just don't want anyone to be able to read their ads...] BTW, they really do look mostly like legitimate ads, albeit for your typically questionable products (stop smoking herbs or something like that.) These so-called spammers are laughing their asses off at us. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs(a)world.std.com | http://www.std.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo*

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circuits in WVA?
by Jeremiah Kristal 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

Has anyone had any recent luck provisioning circuits into West Virginia? I have been trying to order two DS-3s and haven't been able to find any IXCs that can do it. Is there really no capacity whatsoever into WVA or am I just not talking to the correct people? I'm not looking for a cheap solution, or even an elegant solution at this time, I just need to get these circuits ordered. (Any telco vendors lurking, here's your chance.) Jeremiah Kristal Senior Network Engineer ICon CMT Corporation jeremiah(a)iconnet.net 201-319-5764 x284 internal

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[ralphs@halcyon.com: Your e-mail re: ' Re: How to document threats from pro or anti spam terrorists? ']
by dirk＠power.net 24 Feb '98

24 Feb '98

This is not a bad idea at all. Dirk -----Forwarded message from Ralph Sims <ralphs(a)halcyon.com>----- Return-Path: <ralphs(a)mail1.halcyon.com> Delivered-To: dirk(a)hermosa.power.net Received: (qmail 21349 invoked from network); 24 Feb 1998 05:08:23 -0000 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (206.63.63.40) by hermosa.power.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 1998 05:08:23 -0000 Received: (from ralphs@localhost) by mail1.halcyon.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00061; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:08:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:08:15 -0800 (PST) From: Ralph Sims <ralphs(a)halcyon.com> Message-Id: <199802240508.VAA00061(a)mail1.halcyon.com> To: dirk(a)hermosa.power.net References: <19980221151858.32518(a)hermosa.power.net> <Pine.GUL.3.96.980223125859.3575A-100000(a)nfs1.halcyon.com> <19980223210748.55151(a)hermosa.power.net> In-Reply-To: <19980223210748.55151(a)hermosa.power.net> Precedence: junk X-Loop: gzornanplatz(a)halcyon.com Subject: Your e-mail re: ' Re: How to document threats from pro or anti spam terrorists? ' This is to acknowledge I have received your message. If your e-mail is regarding Northwest Nexus operations or relates to company inquiries and might be better handled by someone else on our staff, I will forward it for you; please be assured that I do read all non-spam e-mail I receive. If you do not receive a timely response or a satisfactory resolution, please let me know. This message is returned to each address from which I receive e-mail only once during a one-month period beginning on the 27th of each month. Useful e-mail addresses to keep on file: support(a)nwnexus.com - for urgent issues, please phone billing(a)nwnexus.com - accounts receiveable and payable, etc. sales(a)nwnexus.com - information on our services abuse(a)nwnexus.com - system abuse, "SPAM", etc. by our customers security(a)nwnexus.com - system and network security issues postmaster(a)nwexus.com - e-mail delivery problems and related issues http://www.nwnexus.com - who we are and what we do http://webfaq.halcyon.com - our FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) server ftp.halcyon.com - our public file server (via anonymous FTP or HTTP) Ralph Sims, Vice President (Research and Development) Northwest Nexus, Inc. 10800 NE 8th Street, Suite 802 Bellevue, WA 98004 425.455.3505 or +1.888.696.3987 (ext. 227); +1.425.455.4672 (FAX) -----End of forwarded message-----

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Re: How to document threats from pro or anti spam terrorists?
by Sean Finn 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

At 12:57 PM 2/23/98 -0500, Barry Shein wrote: > > There really are two terrorist groups here. Spammers and > > nti-Spammers. > >That's like saying people defending their properties are as bad as >people they're defending against, that's moral confusion. When an 'anti-spammer' compromises net access for a group of people as a response to percieved "net abuse" on the part of a single member of that group, that's a denial of service. The phrase 'using violence to prevent violence' comes to mind. (I wouldn't say that my government uses 'moral confusion' to justify it's practices, but ... ;) ------ This *is* an important, and troubling subject ... ... but it's my intuition that nanog might not be the place for this particular debate. (suggestions for a more appropriate forum?) cheers -- Sean

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Problems reaching Texas Higher Education (the.net)
by Larry Vaden 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

Can anyone else confirm difficulty reaching hosts on the.net, e.g., mims.utdallas.edu. Our customer reports a several day outage. Thanks, Larry

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Re: Bellovin sez...
by Sean Donelan 23 Feb '98

23 Feb '98

>Forgive my directness, but there was no _new_ data at all >in what the referenced URL quoted Steve/Matt as saying. I'll admit I asked Steve & Matt a pretty softball question, but that wasn't really the point. My question was really about my fear that Internet outages aren't news anymore. Have outages really become so common place that people now accept them as the normal condition of the net? There is a lack of any new data. In general providers seem to be releasing less and less information why outages occur. Are natural disasters really the major cause of outages, or is pilot error a bigger factor than providers care to admit? Fiber cuts get repaired a lot faster than dumb management decisions. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Hello? Exodus?
by Adam Rothschild 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

Another desparate cry for help... Could some high-ranking person from Exodus please drop me a note (privately)? I have an issue (seemingly simlpe) that has gone on for 4 days without resolution, despite numerous calls and e-mails to your support staff, and numerous broken promises that followed. My deepest appologies for contributing to the static of this list. Unfortunately, I see no viable alternatives. Thanks, Adam

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HOly jesus.
by Alex Rubenstein 22 Feb '98

22 Feb '98

I hate writing emails like this (because I hate seeing them). But. I am looking for a *clueful* individual in the Primenet/GlobalCenter NOC to look at a de-aggregation issue. Primenet said, "Call GlobalCenter." GlobalCetner said, "Call Primenet." Alex started banging head into desk.

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