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long delay between circuits..
by jhyang 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

Hello, I want to hear advices from gurus,, Our network use transit service from UU.NET in PaloAlto IX. ## the result of traceroute from our network to www.sun.com traceroute to Sun.COM (192.9.49.33), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets --<snip>-- 4 INET-PA-GW.nuri.net (203.235.119.253) 147 ms 145 ms 143 ms 5 911.Hssi5-0.GW1.PAO1.ALTER.NET (157.130.192.145) 170 ms 169 ms 173 ms <-----@@@@ 6 119.ATM3-0.XR1.SCL1.ALTER.NET (146.188.144.78) 486 ms 434 ms 441 ms <-----@@@@ 7 146.188.145.157 (146.188.145.157) 432 ms 440 ms 443 ms 8 core7-hssi5-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (206.157.77.73) 408 ms 457 ms 425 ms --<snip>-- (INET-PA-GW.nuri.net is our ROUTER.) Between hop 5 and hop 6, it took about 300 ms. It seems the problem of UU.NET as simple analysis.. If the circuit has a problem, the all connections between PAIX and uu.net have problems also. Has anybody the same problem ? Thanks in advacne.. Sincerely,, PS) Was the location of the www.sun.com moved to east coast? I remember that www.sun.com was directly connected with UU.NET, but today the traceroute shows it is connected via MCI and the location is Boston. Is it right ? or the result from routing unstablilty ?

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Re: RFC 974 - Mail Routing and the Domain System
by Andrew Staples 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

> BIND will round robin the MX records, how mail agents deal with >multiple MX records of the same priority is less of a known factor (to >me at least). Actually I'd be interested to hear from people who try >both configurations for say a month at a time to see what influence each >configuration has if any. RFC 974 reads: D.EXAMPLE.ORG IN MX 0 D.EXAMPLE.ORG D.EXAMPLE.ORG IN MX 0 C.EXAMPLE.ORG D.EXAMPLE.ORG IN WKS 10.0.0.4 TCP SMTP In the third example, consider a mailer on A.EXAMPLE.ORG trying to deliver a message to D.EXAMPLE.ORG. In this case there are only two MX RRs, both with the same preference value. Either MX will accept messages for D.EXAMPLE.ORG. The mailer should try one MX first (which one is up to the mailer, though D.EXAMPLE.ORG seems most reasonable), and if that delivery fails should try the other MX (e.g. C.EXAMPLE.ORG)

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APRICOT'99 to be held in Singapore, March 1-5
by Barry Raveendran Greene 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

[ Apologies for duplicates ] WWW Information: http://www.apricot.net Sponsorship and other enquiries: info(a)apricot.net The mission of APRICOT is to develop and advance the skills and understanding necessary to grow a robust Internet infrastructure in the Asia-Pacific region, by providing a forum for those key Internet builders to learn from their peers and other Internet community leaders from around the world. The APRICOT Executive Committee has selected the bid from the Singapore Computer Society (SCS - www.scs.org.sg) to host APRICOT'99 in Singapore, March 1-5, 1999. The Singapore Computer Society's prior success as a local support organization with APRICOT'96 and Singapore's reputation for being a telecommunication, transportation and service 'hub' were both considered in evaluating host city suitability. The in-principle support from many of Singapore's distinguished entities such as National Computer Board, National Science and Technology Board, Tourism Board, SingNet, Pacific Internet and National University of Singapore was also considered. However, given APRICOT's educational focus, the key of the unique proposal was bringing together the support of Internet World 1999 and the Singapore Linux Conference -- both of which are being held in Singapore during the same week. By doing so, there will be an even greater opportunity to exchange skills and understanding with an even wider audience ... for the educational benefit of all attendees -- thus helping to achieve APRICOT's mission. The primarly proposed venue for the event(s) is The Singapore International Convention and Exhibition Center (commonly known as Suntec City Convention Center). For the latest information, please see http://www.apricot.net or send email to info(a)apricot.net Yours sincerely, The APRICOT Executive Committee * Friends of the APRICOT Organizing Committee * * To unsubscribe: send "unsubscribe" to faoc-request(a)apricot.net *

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Re: MicroSoft Sells Out Internet
by David Ford 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

Drivel, this one is blatant, going to www.denounce.com, the title reads: "DENOUNCE NEWSWIRE: All the news that never happened." There might be something to your final statement though. Cheers, Dave. > FBI Asks for Legislation to Monitor > Entire Internet > > Microsoft Agrees to Modify Operating Systems > to Comply, In Exchange for an End to All Litigation > http://www.denounce.com/fbi.html > > I say boycott all MS products everywhere. >--

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Re: Flash crowds and network management
by Sean Donelan 15 Sep '98

15 Sep '98

bicknell(a)dimension.NET (Leo Bicknell) writes: > That's 5600 hits a second, for those who don't want to >fire up bc. Not bad. Some government servers were seeing over 10,000 hits per second at the peak, about double CNN's load. So does anyone have any practical/technical advise on how the government sites could have done better. Be carefull about following IBM's webhosting manager J.D. Zeeman's example of foot-in-mouth problem when he said "I doubt they are scalable to the extent of the ones we have." LOC's servers were made by IBM. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Is anyone else seeing this?
by alex＠tempest.nac.net 15 Sep '98

15 Sep '98

Thousands of /30's from UU? *>i146.188.136.12/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.16/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.24/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.28/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.32/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.36/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.40/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.44/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.48/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.52/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.56/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs. October 26-28, 1998, Atlanta, GA. Three days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. http://www.ispf.com/ for information and registration. Atheism is a non-prophet organization. I route, therefore I am. Alex Rubenstein, alex(a)nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member Father of the Network and Head Bottle-Washer Net Access Corporation, 9 Mt. Pleasant Tpk., Denville, NJ 07834 Don't choose a spineless ISP; we have more backbone! http://www.nac.net -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

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RE: Inter-CO signaling?
by Chad Skidmore 15 Sep '98

15 Sep '98

Try making an ISDN call from one to the other at a 64k rate. If you can get through then there are at least some trunks setup as ESF B8ZS clear channel. I suspect that they are probably some older trunks running AMI D4. The other thing you could do is just ask them. --------------------------------------------- Chad Skidmore Director of Network Engineering Northwest Nexus, Inc. http://www.nwnexus.com 1-888-NWNEXUS > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Hollis [mailto:goemon@sasami.anime.net] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 1998 5:22 PM > To: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' > Subject: Inter-CO signaling? > > > Is there any way to determine if inter-telco links are using > robbed bit > signaling? Eg from GTE to USwest in the Seattle area. > > I suspect RBS may be causing lots of v.90 problems in GTE country in > Seattle. But id like to know how to confirm this. And just > maybe, get it > fixed. > > -Dan >

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MicroSoft Sells Out Internet
by Henry Linneweh 15 Sep '98

15 Sep '98

FBI Asks for Legislation to Monitor Entire Internet Microsoft Agrees to Modify Operating Systems to Comply, In Exchange for an End to All Litigation http://www.denounce.com/fbi.html I say boycott all MS products everywhere. -- ¢4i1å

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Re: Microsoft sells out internet...(IT'S FAKE!)
by Alex February 15 Sep '98

15 Sep '98

Re: http://www.denounce.com/fbi.html Cute Story... plausable.. but unfortunately fake. >From www.denounce.com: ----------------------------------- Recognized around the world as the best source for completely fictional news and information. When you're not looking for a reliable, accurate website for computer industry news, there's only one place to go: Denounce. All fake. All the time. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Alex February Assistant Network Administrator Packet Telecommunications. 69 rue du Condomine Paris, France 75118 ---------------------------------

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RE: Is anyone else seeing this?
by Martin, Christian 15 Sep '98

15 Sep '98

I'm seeing these as /17s... PHIL-RTR1#sh ip bgp 146.188.136.0 BGP routing table entry for 146.188.128.0/17, version 173845 Paths: (3 available, best #2, advertised over IBGP, EBGP) 3951 701 Chris -----Original Message----- From: alex(a)tempest.nac.net [mailto:alex@tempest.nac.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 1:14 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Is anyone else seeing this? Thousands of /30's from UU? *>i146.188.136.12/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.16/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.24/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.28/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.32/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.36/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.40/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.44/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.48/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.52/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i *>i146.188.136.56/30 207.99.5.196 100 0 7372 701 i -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs. October 26-28, 1998, Atlanta, GA. Three days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. http://www.ispf.com/ for information and registration. Atheism is a non-prophet organization. I route, therefore I am. Alex Rubenstein, alex(a)nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member Father of the Network and Head Bottle-Washer Net Access Corporation, 9 Mt. Pleasant Tpk., Denville, NJ 07834 Don't choose a spineless ISP; we have more backbone! http://www.nac.net -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

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