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The NANOG-14 T-Shirt Design Contest
by Craig Labovitz 24 Sep '98

24 Sep '98

The NANOG T-Shirt Design Committee is pleased to announce the ** NANOG 14 T-Shirt Design Contest ** See http://www.nanog.org/mtg-9811/tshirt.html for details. - Craig -- Craig Labovitz labovit(a)merit.edu Merit Network, Inc. http://www.merit.edu/~labovit 4251 Plymouth Road, Suite C. (734) 764-0252 (office) Ann Arbor, MI 48105-2785 (734) 647-3185 (fax)

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Re: ORG MIA
by matt.s 24 Sep '98

24 Sep '98

it's back... ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @a.root-servers.net org. soa ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 ;; flags: qr aa rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 11, Addit: 11 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; org, type = SOA, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: org. 86400 SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET. ( 1998092300 ; serial 1800 ; refresh (30 mins) 900 ; retry (15 mins) 604800 ; expire (7 days) 86400 ) ; minimum (1 day) ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: org. 518400 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.41.0.4 H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.63.2.53 B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.9.0.107 C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.33.4.12 D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.8.10.90 E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.203.230.10 I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.36.148.17 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.5.5.241 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.112.36.4 J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 518400 A 198.41.0.21 K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 518400 A 195.8.99.11 ;; Total query time: 47723 msec ;; FROM: via to SERVER: a.root-servers.net 198.41.0.4 ;; WHEN: Thu Sep 24 11:08:06 1998 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 21 rcvd: 458 matt sommer webkorner.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: ORG MIA > Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:28:51 -0400 > From: cache22(a)via.webkorner.com > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > > now .org is missing from a.root-servers.net... > > ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @a.root-servers.net org. soa > ; (1 server found) > ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch > ;; got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 > ;; flags: qr rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 11, Addit: 11 > ;; QUESTIONS: > ;; org, type = SOA, class = IN > > ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: > org. 172800 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > org. 172800 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > org. 172800 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > org. 172800 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > org. 172800 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > org. 172800 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > org. 172800 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > org. 172800 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > org. 172800 NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. > org. 172800 NS K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. > org. 172800 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > > ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: > H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.63.2.53 > B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.9.0.107 > C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.33.4.12 > D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.8.10.90 > E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.203.230.10 > I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.36.148.17 > F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.5.5.241 > G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.112.36.4 > J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 518400 A 198.41.0.21 > K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 518400 A 195.8.99.11 > A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.41.0.4 > > ;; Total query time: 270 msec > ;; FROM: via to SERVER: a.root-servers.net 198.41.0.4 > ;; WHEN: Wed Sep 23 23:17:43 1998 > ;; MSG SIZE sent: 21 rcvd: 402

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IP accounting
by Chris Cappuccio 24 Sep '98

24 Sep '98

For everything that has been said about charging for bandwidth, I don't see why a simple, low priced per-gigabyte model doesn't work. If you want to go to the ironic side, try using free software to do it all... http://www2.empnet.com/ipacct/ --- "Microsoft is to quality software what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking"

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New Protocol Speeds Internet Packets
by Barry L James 24 Sep '98

24 Sep '98

An article on Dynamic Transfer Mode and how circuit-switching technology will enhance packet-switching protocols. TIWAGOS. http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/daily/980921c.html

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IXC Fibre cut IL,OH
by Bradley Reynolds 24 Sep '98

24 Sep '98

IXC communications currently has more than a hundred ds3s cut. The outage started at 0830 CDT on 9/19/98. All ds3s that I have isolated traverse their fibre route between cleveland and downtown chicago. The outage seems to affect the chicago area primarily. IXC was unable to provide ETR. On a side-note, if you are in the ameritech service area, ixc's 800 number translation is not working. You get to hear a non-standard 'all circuits are busy'. If you need to reach them, call their austin number 5124273700 BR

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Re: And we thought the text part of the Starr Report would be bad
by Roger Fajman 24 Sep '98

24 Sep '98

> > > For modem to modem communications, start and stop bits were used > > > up through 2400 baud when one bit = one tone. The method of one > > > bit = one tone was dropped for other forms of encoding when modems > > > started supporting connection speeds in excess of 2400 baud. > > > > I assume you mean 2400 bps modems, i.e., v.22bis? Admittedly, it's been a > > while since I used one, but my recollection is that 2400 bps modems operate > > at 600 baud, with 4 bits/baud using QAM. > > This matches my recollection. I think it was 1200 bps that was the > last 1 bit per baud modem. > > Cheers, > -- jra Yes and no. The Bell 202 was 1200 bps, one bit per baud, half duplex on a switched line. The Bell 212 was 1200 bps, 600 baud, 2 bits per baud, full duplex. So was the Vadic 3400, which preceded the 212.

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ORG MIA
by cache22＠via.webkorner.com 24 Sep '98

24 Sep '98

now .org is missing from a.root-servers.net... ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @a.root-servers.net org. soa ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 ;; flags: qr rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 11, Addit: 11 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; org, type = SOA, class = IN ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: org. 172800 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 172800 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 172800 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 172800 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 172800 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 172800 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 172800 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 172800 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 172800 NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. org. 172800 NS K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. org. 172800 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.63.2.53 B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.9.0.107 C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.33.4.12 D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.8.10.90 E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.203.230.10 I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.36.148.17 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.5.5.241 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.112.36.4 J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 518400 A 198.41.0.21 K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 518400 A 195.8.99.11 A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.41.0.4 ;; Total query time: 270 msec ;; FROM: via to SERVER: a.root-servers.net 198.41.0.4 ;; WHEN: Wed Sep 23 23:17:43 1998 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 21 rcvd: 402 ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @b.root-servers.net org. soa ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 ;; flags: qr aa rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 11, Addit: 11 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; org, type = SOA, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: org. 86400 SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. hostmaster.INTERNIC.NET. ( 1998092200 ; serial 1800 ; refresh (30 mins) 900 ; retry (15 mins) 604800 ; expire (7 days) 86400 ) ; minimum (1 day) ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: org. 518400 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. org. 518400 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.9.0.107 C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.33.4.12 D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.8.10.90 E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.203.230.10 I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.36.148.17 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.5.5.241 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.112.36.4 J.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 518400 A 198.41.0.21 K.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. 518400 A 195.8.99.11 A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.41.0.4 H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.63.2.53 ;; Total query time: 341 msec ;; FROM: via to SERVER: b.root-servers.net 128.9.0.107 ;; WHEN: Wed Sep 23 23:18:44 1998 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 21 rcvd: 458 for comparison... ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @a.root-servers.net gov. soa ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 ;; flags: qr aa rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 9, Addit: 9 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; gov, type = SOA, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: gov. 86400 SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. GARY\.BORGOYNE.FED.gov. ( 1998092300 ; serial 3600 ; refresh (1 hour) 900 ; retry (15 mins) 604800 ; expire (7 days) 86400 ) ; minimum (1 day) ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: gov. 86400 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.36.148.17 E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.203.230.10 D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.8.10.90 B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.9.0.107 C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.33.4.12 A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.41.0.4 H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.63.2.53 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.112.36.4 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.5.5.241 ;; Total query time: 5301 msec ;; FROM: via to SERVER: a.root-servers.net 198.41.0.4 ;; WHEN: Wed Sep 23 23:17:31 1998 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 21 rcvd: 379 ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> @b.root-servers.net gov. soa ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 ;; flags: qr aa rd; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 9, Addit: 9 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; gov, type = SOA, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: gov. 86400 SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. GARY\.BORGOYNE.FED.gov. ( 1998092300 ; serial 3600 ; refresh (1 hour) 900 ; retry (15 mins) 604800 ; expire (7 days) 86400 ) ; minimum (1 day) ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: gov. 86400 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. gov. 86400 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.41.0.4 H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.63.2.53 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.112.36.4 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.5.5.241 I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.36.148.17 E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.203.230.10 D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.8.10.90 B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.9.0.107 C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.33.4.12 ;; Total query time: 320 msec ;; FROM: via to SERVER: b.root-servers.net 128.9.0.107 ;; WHEN: Wed Sep 23 23:19:08 1998 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 21 rcvd: 379

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WEATHER: Puerto Rico/Hurricane Georges
by Sean Donelan 24 Sep '98

24 Sep '98

37 dead. I'll concentrate on Puerto Rico because DRA has some customers on that island. I'm not sure of the Internet or telecommunication situation on other islands. Official reports are light to moderate damage. Electrical power has been restored to some parts of Puerto Rico, but 1 million people are still without power. Primary power generation facilities were not damaged, but the transmission network was damaged throughout the island. Telephone service was disrupted in several areas. Mayaguez and other areas are affected. Internet circuits through those central offices have also been affected. The storm track is currently Cuba on Sep 24, and Florida late on Sep 24 or early Sep 25. -- Sean Donelan, Data Research Associates, Inc, St. Louis, MO Affiliation given for identification not representation

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Re: And we thought the text part of the Starr Report would be bad
by Jerry Scharf 23 Sep '98

23 Sep '98

> As you would expect, they only get the real experts to speak: > > "While Bergman was confident ABCNews.com's plans to stream the video in its > entirety would go fine, Martin Hall of the IP Multicast Initiative says > the real problems would occur at the user's > end of the line. > > The standard T1 connection of an Internet service provider handles a > maximum of 53 dialup connections pumping data to a user, he said, but a > 54th user could cause a major problem." > The number of dialups on a T1, the number of bytes in a framed ATM cell. I see a telco conspiracy here. (:-) for the humor impaied) jerry

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Re: And we thought the text part of the Starr Report would be bad
by Eric Sobocinski 23 Sep '98

23 Sep '98

On Tuesday, 22 Sep 1998 at 22:43 EDT, Robert Szarka <szarka(a)downcity.net> wrote: >At 11:22 AM 9/22/98 , you wrote: >> For modem to modem communications, start and stop bits were used >> up through 2400 baud when one bit = one tone. The method of one >> bit = one tone was dropped for other forms of encoding when modems >> started supporting connection speeds in excess of 2400 baud. > >I assume you mean 2400 bps modems, i.e., v.22bis? Admittedly, it's been a >while since I used one, but my recollection is that 2400 bps modems operate >at 600 baud, with 4 bits/baud using QAM. Your memory about v.22bis at 2400 bps is entirely correct. v.22 at 1200 bps/baud was the last of the 1 bps = 1 baud dialup modem standards. However, v.32/v.32bis/v.32ter/v.34/v.34bis all use trellis coding and additional tricks to get high bit rates out of 2400 baud. It is technically possible to get 2400 bps at 2400 baud from any of these latter standards, though realistically the only place you'll find conditions twisted enough to do that is in the lab. --eric (speaking only on my own authority, as usual)

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