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RE: Space in 55 South Market St
by Chris Mauritz 14 Dec '98

14 Dec '98

Why was ANY of this on the list in the first place? Geez. C Chris Mauritz Director, Systems Administration Rare Medium, Inc. chrism(a)raremedium.com -----Original Message----- From: Mike Leber [mailto:mleber@he.net] Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 4:12 PM To: Alex Bligh Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Space in 55 South Market St On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Alex Bligh wrote: > > We can provide you with 1 rack or even a cage of 6 if you like. We have > > generator power, battery backup, aircon, fiber to worldcom and pacbell, > > and it's staffed 24 x 7. > > In 55 South Market St itself? Yes. > If so, what floor and how much? 2nd floor and 14th floor. > Any cross connect (i.e. per circuit) charges? No charge for copper. Small charge for fiber in our conduit. > Can your guys do remote > feeding and watering of Cisco's (both 24x7 and we occasionally send > out new cards etc. that need fitting, circuits that need commissioning > etc. and expect to be charged by the hour)? Yes. Contact me off the list by phone or email. Mike. +------------------- H U R R I C A N E - E L E C T R I C -------------------+ | Mike Leber Direct Internet Connections Voice 408 282 1540 | | Hurricane Electric Web Hosting & Co-location Fax 408 971 3340 | | mleber(a)he.net http://www.he.net | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- +

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Space in 55 South Market St
by Alex Bligh 14 Dec '98

14 Dec '98

Does anyone have space in 55 South Market St SJ sufficient to house 1 rack? (or failing that 1x7507). UPS, Aircon & preferably Generator. Worldcom & PacBell fiber appreciated. GTEI need not apply. Has to be in the building, not down the road. -- Alex Bligh GX Networks (formerly Xara Networks)

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[Fwd: fwd: Black Hole Vixie/RBL]
by Sean Rolinson 14 Dec '98

14 Dec '98

Hello, I apologize for responding to a thread that is over a week old. I had some technical difficulties in sending this email. Anyway, here it is: Do we know how many ISPs are actually using the RBL and what percentage of the total users of the net this covers?? I read an article in Info World talking about commercialization of Sendmail which estimated that 75% of the mailers on the net were using Sendmail. (Info World, December 7, 1998. Page 76) For the record, I think the RBL is a good idea. If you want to use it great, if you don't want to use it great. Today, you still have a choice. If you didn't have the choice I'd be singing a different tune. :) I've had to deal with Paul and the MAPS group in the past from being RBL'ed (actually one of our servers is currently RBL'ed). IMHO, they are quite reasonable when putting people on or taking them off the list. Just my $0.02... Sean Rolinson snowdog(a)bigfoot.com Director of Operations Bigfoot International Inc.

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[whoisdatabase@hotmail.com: Re: Network Solutions Lists] (fwd)
by larrys＠lexis-nexis.com 14 Dec '98

14 Dec '98

The problem is that it is and has to be (reasonably) public information. For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will certainly write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith. ..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real! -ls- (LS11) >>>>> Forwarded message from James Rishaw <jamie(a)dilbert.ais.net> Ugh! There's *got* to be a way to keep people from walking the database... -- jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. jamie at ais dot net infrastructure engineering "I will NOT go to a party with a version number." -davidr << End forwarded message

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Re: Another Domain list seller
by Paul Vixie 14 Dec '98

14 Dec '98

two things. first: > http://www.targetedlists.com/ i just blackholed the /24 this web server lives on. it's part of a much larger block but there's no evidence that the entire block is infested. second, and this is just piggybacking since i've used up launch slot, i wanted to let everyone know how things came out with the blackholing of network solutions. it turns out that it's not going to be necessary -- i met with david holtzman in DC on the saturday before usenix and ietf, and NSI plans to beef up the ability of domain contacts to opt out of their marketing materials. it's hoped, though not promised, that this added beef will appear before they send any more marketing material. for background, it's not spam if there's a preexisting relationship, as is certainly true for netsol and the internet's domain contacts. my reason for thinking i might have to blackhole them is (a) there's no way to choose a non-netsol registrar (yet!) and (b) there's been no way to reliably get oneself removed from the marketing list. if either one of these and preferrably both are fixed, then i'll have no reason to black- hole NSI at this time. "that's the news -- so, now you know." -- Paul Vixie <paul(a)vix.com>

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MAE-West et al.
by Tim Wolfe 14 Dec '98

14 Dec '98

Any word if the major power problems near San Fransisco are affecting MAE-West or any carriers in that area? Tim ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy M. Wolfe | Why surf when you can Sail? tim(a)clipper.net | Join Oregon's Premier Sr. Network Engineer | Wireless Internet Provider! ClipperNet Corporation | http://www.clipper.net/ ----------------------------------------------------

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** nac.net UNDER ATTACK
by alex＠nac.net 14 Dec '98

14 Dec '98

We are currently seeing about 2 mb/s of the following traffic from 131.123.16.54 (membrane.kent.edu) .Dec 14 00:12:13: IP: s=131.123.16.54 (ATM0), d=209.123.11.189 (Hssi0), len 1028, access denied .Dec 14 00:12:13: UDP src=11570, dst=79 .Dec 14 00:12:13: IP: s=131.123.16.54 (ATM0), d=209.123.11.189 (Hssi0), len 1028, access denied .Dec 14 00:12:13: UDP src=11570, dst=79 It is unlikely that a Cisco 7206 is sending 2 mb/s of finger requests to this box, so I am assuming they are spoofing at least the port. Has anyone else seen this? -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Atheism is a non-prophet organization. I route, therefore I am. Alex Rubenstein, alex(a)nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member Father of the Network and Head Bottle-Washer Net Access Corporation, 9 Mt. Pleasant Tpk., Denville, NJ 07834 Don't choose a spineless ISP; we have more backbone! http://www.nac.net -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

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Re: [whoisdatabase@hotmail.com: Re: Network Solutions Lists] (fwd)
by larrys＠lexis-nexis.com 14 Dec '98

14 Dec '98

Hi Brad -- Gawd -- I open my mouth once a month here and even then I manage to insert foot. Qual WAS the last relay before he got the spam. You got it from e-i.net, who got it from ??? Sorry about that! -ls- Bradley Reynolds <brad(a)null0.qual.net> wrote: > what does this have to do with qual.net? > > or are you just using that as a random name? > > BR > > On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, Larry Snyder wrote: > > > The problem is that it is and has to be (reasonably) public information. > > For any restriction that could be put in place, someone will certainly > > write a programatic workaround. This specific mailing is in violation > > of qual.net's AUP III.B.3....so gripe to them. And support Smith. > > ..."an Opt-In list of".......Get Real! > > -ls- (LS11) > > > > >>>>> Forwarded message from James Rishaw <jamie(a)dilbert.ais.net> > > > > Ugh! > > > > There's *got* to be a way to keep people from walking the database... > > > > > > -- > > jamie rishaw (efnet:gavroche) American Information Systems, Inc. > > jamie at ais dot net infrastructure engineering > > > > "I will NOT go to a party with a version number." -davidr > >

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Another Domain list seller
by Dean Robb 14 Dec '98

14 Dec '98

Copied from SPAM-L. Posted for the info/warning of domain owners and for action by Network Solutions if they choose, since they seem concerned by this issue of late. Note that the "opt-in list of domain owners..." does not exist, except in the mind of the spammer. Hi, According to our records, you have at least one domain registered with Network Solutions, aka The Internic. http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois/ Please do not be offended by this email. This is not a mass spam mailing. Your email address is on an Opt-In list of domain owners who are interested in increasing their website traffic. We can show you how to generate so much traffic, that it could possibly CRASH your ISP's server! That's right! We have a huge list of Internic's Domain Owners, extracted from the Whois Database available for download from our password protected website right now. For more details, visit our site . . . http://www.targetedlists.com/ If you order before Dec. 31st, you will receive "MacroBot" software for FREE! This is a one time mailing offer to members of Network Solutions Whois Database of Domain Name Owners/Opt-In List. You will not receive any further mailings from our company. To request removal from this opt-in list, send an email with "unsubscribe" in the subject box. mailto:unsubscribe@targetedlists.com Thanks for your time and consideration, The UnderWorld 1-800-607-6006 ext. 3205# http://www.targetedlists.com/ Spammers should be investigated by Ken Starr! Dean Robb PC-EASY computer services (757) 495-EASY [3279]

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[whoisdatabase@hotmail.com: Re: Network Solutions Lists]
by Roeland M.J. Meyer 14 Dec '98

14 Dec '98

>X-Sender: rmeyer(a)pop.mhsc.com >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 >Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:58:36 -0800 >Reply-To: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer(a)MHSC.COM> >Sender: Owner-Domain-Policy <owner-domain-policy(a)internic.net> >From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer(a)MHSC.COM> >Subject: Report: Whois database for sale >X-To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes(a)INTERNIC.NET> >To: DOMAIN-POLICY(a)LISTS.INTERNIC.NET > >I just called this guy at > >>Registrant: >>Site Promotion, LLC (TARGETEDLISTS2-DOM) >> 3000 Millsfield >> Dyersburg, TN 38024 >> US >> >> Domain Name: TARGETEDLISTS.COM >> >> Administrative Contact: >> Promotion, Site (SP7502) spotfree(a)LOA.COM >> 901-286-6157 >> > >A *real* person answers the phone. I had a very good discussion with him >and I mentioned that this call was part of the MHSC process leading to >submitting his site to the RBL. He confirmed the web-site and its stated >intention. I also pointed out that making whois contact information >available to spammers was a lot like "tugging on Superman's cape", not a >good idea as it would gain the extreme ire of every ISP on the planet, not >to mention every other domain-name holder. I also politely reminded him >that the whois information is for internet-related business ONLY and NOT to >be used for advertising. > >In turn, he informed me that, as of this morning, he has decided to stop >this activity. It remains to be seen if he will do so. Chuck, I strongly >suggest that NSI follow this up with their own phone contact procedures. > >It is amusing that he, at first, tried to say that he didn't send the SPAM, >but when I started to read excerpts from the text of his web-site he >abandoned that argument line. > >At 11:28 AM 12/13/98 , Gomes, Chuck wrote: >>Chuck, >> >>To me, this indicates a serious problem at NSI. Y'all *had* to know that >some scum-bag was eventually going to do this. openly. I maintain that is >has been happening surreptitiously for some time, as this isn't the first >time someone has spammed my contact info addresses. >> >>What it disappointing is that NSI doesn't already have a "canned" response >ready to go. It was definitely a forsee-able event. Is it maybe that you >are aware of the probable response and don't like it yourself? > >> >>At 05:42 AM 12/13/98 , Gomes, Chuck wrote: >>>To date we have tried very hard to avoid becoming content managers of the >>>Internet because we have never really been given any authorization to do so. >>>Also, how could it be done fairly and equitably? >>> >>>Because of the concern for this issue though, we are discussing how this >>>might be done if in fact it can be done fairly and efficiently. >>> >>>Chuck >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Benjamin Azevedo [SMTP:Editor@Opiniao.com] >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 1998 8:09 AM >>>> To: DOMAIN-POLICY >>>> Subject: Whois database for sale >>>> >>>> To all and specially Chuck, >>>> >>>> Spam received today offering access to domain owners email addresses. >>>> With a registered domain to receive orders: http://www.targetedlists.com >>>> >>>> As long as they start selling the list widely, we should expect even >>>> more spam against domain contacts. >>>> >>>> Isn't this offering a reason to immediately suspend/cancel this domain? >>>> And maybe other associated domains too, as "targetedlists.com" has been >>>> just >>>> registered and possibly is disposable anyway. >>>> >>>> Benjamin Azevedo >>>> >>>> >>>> 1)Spam received >>>> Re: Network Solutions Lists >>>> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:32:26 GMT >>>> From: whois(a)finfin.com >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> According to our records, you have at least >>>> one domain registered with Network Solutions, >>>> aka The Internic. >>>> http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois/ >>>> >>>> Please do not be offended by this email. >>>> This is not a mass spam mailing. 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You will not receive >>>> any further mailings from our company. >>>> >>>> To request removal from this opt-in list, >>>> send an email with "unsubscribe" in the >>>> subject box. mailto:removelist@eastmail.com >>>> >>>> Thanks for your time and consideration, >>>> >>>> The UnderWorld > >>>> 1-800-607-6006 ext. 3205# >>>> >>>> http://www.targetedlists.com/ >>>> >>>> 2)Info available on the annouced site >>>> Welcome To The >>>> UnderWorld! >>>> >>>> BULK EMAIL ADDRESSES - PROMOTION SERVICES, >>>> FREE EMAIL EXTRACTION SOFTWARE >>>> AND GREAT INFORMATION FOR SITE PROMOTERS! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hold on to your hat, because this info is going to "knock your >>>> socks >>>> OFF!" We have an email address list of domain owners in the >>>> Internic's Whois Database. >>>> >>>> The great thing about The Internic's Whois database is that >>>> virtually >> >>> all the email addresses are VALID. 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This software is fully functional, NOT a >>>> demo >>>> ($200 value) FREE! >>>> >>>> 3)Whois information about the domain offering the list >>>> Registrant: Site Promotion, LLC (TARGETEDLISTS2-DOM) >>>> 3000 Millsfield >>>> Dyersburg, TN 38024 >>>> US >>>> >>>> Domain Name: TARGETEDLISTS.COM >>>> >>>> Administrative Contact: >>>> Promotion, Site (SP7502) spotfree(a)LOA.COM >>>> 901-286-6157 >>>> Technical Contact, Zone Contact: >>>> VDirect Domain Services (VD143-ORG) dnsadmin(a)VDIRECT.COM >>>> 716-262-2351 >> >>> Fax- 716-262-3766 >>>> Billing Contact: >>>> Promotion, Site (SP7502) spotfree(a)LOA.COM >>>> 901-286-6157 >>>> >>>> Record last updated on 02-Dec-98. >>>> Record created on 02-Dec-98. >>>> Database last updated on 13-Dec-98 02:53:46 EST. >>>> >>>> Domain servers in listed order: >>>> >>>> DNS1.VDIRECT.COM 208.157.147.98 >>>> DNS2.VDIRECT.COM 208.157.147.99 >>> >>> >>>-- >>>DOMAIN-POLICY administrivia should be sent to <listserv(a)lists.internic.net> >>>To unsubscribe send a message with only one line "SIGNOFF DOMAIN-POLICY" >>>For more help regarding Listserv commands send the one line "HELP" >>> >> > >_________________________________________________ >Morgan Hill Software Company, Inc. >Roeland M.J. 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