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Whois lookup info
by Dan Bustillos - Datalink Internet 10 Mar '99

10 Mar '99

Hey all, Maybe someone can help. In the past you could do a lookup at the 'nic with /server (Server nic handle) Now you can't. Does anyone have any ideas? Thank you, Dan Bustillos Datalink Internet Tech Support ICQ: 31020396 (530) 897-6400 (888) 328-4638 ******************* "Error, No Keyboard - Press F1 to continue" Only on a PC would you see this error. Never on my mac.

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Need RWhois help.
by Louis A. Destree 10 Mar '99

10 Mar '99

Greetings, We're trying to get a RWhois server online, and are pretty well at a dead-end. I've searched high and low, but can't find any FAQ's on RWhois servers. Can anyone point me in the right direction here? We've found the RWhois mailing lists, and have subscribed to those, but if there are any other resources out there I'd like to know about them. Thanks, Louis -- Louis A. Destree Senior Network Engineer FlashNet Communications destree(a)flash.net

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Internic doesn't care about valid contact information
by mwinter＠exodus.net 10 Mar '99

10 Mar '99

While we are at the discussion about contact information from the Internic... Internic doesn't care at all what you enter in the address, name, contact info etc - as long as you are paying for it. According to the agreement which you must agree to for requesting a domain name (http://www.internic.net/help/agreement.txt, paragraph K), you are supposed to give them the correct information. But I came accross a whois entry which was completly fake (like phone number of 111-111-1111, non-existing address in a non-existing city etc. The only (probably) correct part was a email address - which is one of the web-based anonymous emails.) I'm not talking about possible wrong (outdated) contact info - this case was clear that the person which registered the domain name didn't care about giving correct information and didn't hide it at all. When I mailed a copy of this to Internic and asked them how this fits their agreement.. I mainly got the following information: [...] "Although we are concerned about the validity of information in the WHOIS database, it is the responsibility of the domain name registrant to maintain current information. Erroneous or incorrect information, such as an invalid phone number or a non-functioning e-mail address is not just cause for cancellation of a domain name. Domain names are only deleted at the request of the registrant or via our normal billing cycles." [...] Oh well.. it certainly helps the Internet community if you are now allowed to register completly anonymous domain names. - Martin Winter (speaking for himself only)

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[flashback] Dern response to Metcalfe critique of Dern 'net collapse?' piece (fwd)
by Paul Ferguson 09 Mar '99

09 Mar '99

Hello, Just a reminder, folks -- the Internet is still here. Has anything really changed? Hmmm. See you in Eugene. Enjoy! - paul >Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 20:43:23 -0400 (EDT) >From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk(a)cyberNOTHING.org> >To: nanog(a)merit.edu >Subject: Dern response to Metcalfe critique of Dern 'net collapse?' piece (fwd) >X-US-Congress: Moronic fucks. >Organization: cyberNOTHING.org: Because nothing is cooler when it's cyber. >Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu > > > Both NANOG and the Internet Press Guild talking about some of the >same things...what fun! > BTW, the IPG is at 'http://www.netpress.org/ipg/'. We'll be >forming a public list for discussion of coverage of the net in major >media, sorta like alt.internet.media-coverage used to be. > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:47:04 -0400 >From: Daniel P Dern <ddern(a)world.std.com> >Reply-To: ipg-l(a)netpress.org >To: ipg-l(a)netpress.org >Subject: (Belated fwd) Dern response to Metcalfe critique of Dern 'net collapse?' piece >Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:49:41 -0400 >Resent-From: ipg-l(a)netpress.org > > > >---------<dern>------------ >DERN ON THE INTERNET: > > Internet Predicts Overloading of Bob Metcalfe (.GIF at 11) > > (as told to Daniel P. Dern <ddern(a)world.std.com, www.dern.com>) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Copyright (c) 1996 Daniel P. Dern > > [ Copyleft (cl) - Permission granted to redistribute free ONLY to > free-for-access online forums, sites and such (including mailing > lists), and only so long as my byline, copyright and this disclaimer > are included. Anyone else interested, contact me. -dpd ] > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >{What has gone before: <read this in Italics if you got 'em> > > I had a front-page article in the July 1 issue of InfoWorld, on the > every-popular topic "is the Internet collapsing." Bob Metcalfe > responded to it, with, "Internet Intelligentsia Stands on Credos, Not > Facts", in the same issue (p.75, opposite my final 'graphs). Here is > my response to Metcalfe's response; Bob, this constitutes the other > shoe finally dropping :-) </Italics if you had 'em> -dpd} > > >AUGUST 1996 (shortly after lunch) -- If you've been following the >cybernatterings of cyberluminary Bob Metcalfe during the past half-year >or so (or past two years in Internet dog years), in his InfoWorld "From >The Ether" column, or elsewhere in various speeches, articles, >interviews, and online postings, you're probably well aware that Dr. >Metcalfe is concerned about the Internet. > >In fact, he's convinced that the Internet is overloaded to the point >where it will soon collapse. Why he doesn't suggest the Internet take >two aspirins, go to bed, and Internet-phone him in the morning I don't >know -- perhaps he's not that kind of doctor. But he's definitely >concerned. > >It is therefore highly ironic that, according to the Internet, a >similar fate may lie in store for Metcalfe. In an exclusive interview >I just had with the Internet, the Internet opined that Bob Metcalfe is >overloading, and, predicts the Internet, he will soon be unable to >handle the load. > >Dr. Robert Metcalfe, a suave, well- -- if perhaps too-casually- -- >dressed techno bon vivant, and awardwinner, is best known for being the >creator of Ethernet, and also for being one of the founders of 3Com, >and recently variously publisher, editor-in-chief, and columnist at >InfoWorld magazine. He's been kvetching about the Internet long before >other industry pundits, even John Dvorak or Jerry Pournelle. > >The Internet is, of course, a global network of networks, linked by the >IP networking protocols which enable applications on different types of >networks and computers to "schmooze" (intercommunicate), and has become >best known as the home of the WorldWideWeb (which has in turn spawned >all those "intranets," "extranets," "intrawebs," and "IP corrals"), >which, as well all know, is the reason we all "need" Netscape Navigator >and/or Microsoft Internet Explorer. (Conspiracy theorists attribute >much of the claimed value of the Web to PR campaigns by memory chip >makers.) > >"It's the Firesign Theatre's 'Fudd's Law' all over again -- 'If you push >anything hard enough, it will fall over,'" the Internet quipped self- >referentially, while simultaneously blowing routing loops from its >elegantly carved high-bandwidth meerschaum pipe and signing receipt chits >for new top-level domains. > >"I know Bob's worried about me -- well, I'm worried about Bob," the >Internet stated statelessly. "He's pushing himself too hard -- and, >unlike me, he only has one provider and wasn't engineered to scale the >same way." The Internet put down the pile of paperwork on a nearby >routing table, which was wobbling as if it might collapse at any moment. >A green plastic fish which had escaped from another essay wriggled >briefly nearby. > >The Internet is flattered by the Metcalfe's ongoing interest in its >health, but fears that this may be a case of the bioanarchistic pot >calling the cyber-kettle black. > >"He's taking on too great a load," explained the Internet, dressed in a >open-protocol suit and a <BLINK>ing bow tie for the occasion, at its open >suite in the Hotel D'Arpa recently for an exclusive interview. "He's >writing articles and editorials, he's speaking at conferences, he's being >interviewed, he's getting awards, he's giving parties... Bob Metcalfe was >never designed to handle this great a load, nor to handle many of these >types of functions. Heck, it makes me tired just to think about it. >It's inevitable that he'll prove unable to handle the load, sooner or >later." > >According to a recent three-year $100 million study by two mailroom >clerks and a service technician at the Cantseetheforestforthetrees >Group located in Cambridge, Mass. near what was supposed to have been >the site of a major urban mall and housing development that never >materialized, "Metcalfe's appearances and activities have been growing >at a monthly rate of 15%." By mid-2002, they predict, "Metcalfe will be >speaking at every trade show in the United States, as well as at 29% of >the Boy and Girl Scout troop meetings, numerous city zoning board >committees, and several county fairs." > >(Copies of the full report, including color graphs and pie charts, are >available for the small cheap paltry sum of $597, payable in $3.00 Ecash >certificates made on a browser with margins set to 6.2 centimeters. Free >copies are available from their web site.) > >Metcalfe's silicon-intelligent anarchistica, notably several leading >Ethernet segments at major universities, deny the rumors. "Bob's NAPs >keep him well-rested and productive," reported one at a technical east >coast site. But others report dropped salt packets, open jars of clam >dip, and a growing pile of sport coats and sweaters -- some of which, >one WAN wag reported, aren't as seamless as they used to be. > >"Being a pundit requires a lot more speed and flexibility than it used >to," notes Sc*tt Br*dn*r, an alleged academic at a university located a >few miles upriver from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M*T) >in Cambridge, Mass. "Bob's been able to cope, but he'll run out of >bandwidth sooner or later, and fail to show up for a meeting somewhere, >or drop his speech en route." > >D*v* Cl*rk, an alleged computer science academic purported to have been >allegedly seen having a beer with an alleged journalist, says, "We have >computer simulations of Metcalfe running on our academic computers >which show how Metcalfe could run at a higher speed. Unfortunately, >our program refuses to run simulations involving Metcalfe performing >non-academic activities." Cl*rk hypothesized that his simulator was >assuming an arbitrarily large supply of graduate students as one of the >resources in its calculations. > >V*nt C*rf, alleged father of the Internet paternity suite and co-founder >of C*rfN*t, adds, "At this point, given the expectations that have been >created for Metcalfe, it's important that he drop something, if only to >prove we're right and he's wrong." > >Defenders of Metcalfe claim the Internet is being unfair. "Bob, like >all of us, is comprised of many individual organs, bones, cells and old >parking tickets," points out an Ethernet segment in Umbilical, Hawaii >which was subsequently arrested by the Grammar Police for improper use of >'comprise.' "To say he's completely overloading, versus that some >muscle or organ may be overloading, is unfair." > >"Part of the problem," the Internet said in response to these counter- >critiques, "is that Metcalfe was never designed to handle a load like >this. He still needs security, management, proper billing, guaranteed >service, and blue suede shoes. It's our own fault for continuing to use >him." > >I attempted to reach Metcalfe for comment, but he was unavailable (hmmm!) >-- off making a speach somewhere in New York... or was it Chicago... or >Los Angeles... or whatever. (Kinda proves the point, don't it?) > >"I understand what it's like to be overloaded," the Internet concluded. >"But I've got the same confidence in Bob that he's got in me. Frankly, I >think we both want to collapse, and then be allowed to spend a few weeks >chilling out somewhere quiet, downloading back a few drinks, and waiting >for the press to find some other headline-grabbing scapegoat. > >"As for all those businesses supposedly relying on me -- heck, I never >said I was good for that stuff," the Internet pinged. "I was supposed to >just be the proof of concept. Making me into that info-super-duper- >highway, that was somebody else's idea. Whoops -- here somes the three >o'clock weather checkers and PointCast update -- back to work!" > >Shrugging out of its jacket and into a naugahyde jacket with a large >"IP On Everything" JPEG on the back, the Internet sauntered off to the >nearest meetpoint, singing, in a semi-public key, to a frightening >familiar tune, "I know I connect all those LANs/and the LANs I connect >to are grand/So when I say, IP, aye, IP, eye-pee-eye-eh/I'm lookin' >fine, info-highway/info-highway, no way!..." > > * > >(Note to readers: Only stunt or simulated Metcalfes were used in >testing and writing this article. Not real Metcalfes, or even his >sweaters, were used. And had this been a real "Internet is out" alert, >this would, of course, never have gotten to you.) > > # > >- Daniel P. Dern (ddern(a)world.std.com, www.dern.com) has been writing, >speaking, consulting, and writing song parodies about the Internet for >over a decade. Author of THE INTERNET GUIDE FOR NEW USERS and founding >editor of Internet World magazine, he's ready for somebody to give him >another Internet magazine to be in charge of. Or even another Internet >column. And yes, he knows his Web site is vastly in need of updating, >okay? > > > Copyright (c) 1996 Daniel P. Dern > > >/the end. really. >---------</dern>------------ > >----------- > >Daniel Dern (ddern(a)world.std.com, http://www.dern.com) > Internet analyst, author, columnist & speaker > (617) 969-7947 FAX: (617) 969-7949 > > >

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Internic
by Moe Allen 08 Mar '99

08 Mar '99

I am not so sure they even want your money. I have been waiting 2 days for a response on a domain I am trying to register for a customer. Morris Allen VidcomNet, Inc.

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GateD and Linux
by Roeland M.J. Meyer 08 Mar '99

08 Mar '99

I was a LinuxWorld, yesterday, and heard of a problem with GateD and the new Linux kernel. Does anyone verify/have more info on this? ___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer - e-mail: mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com Internet phone: hawk.lvrmr.mhsc.com Personal web pages: http://staff.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: http://www.mhsc.com ___________________________________________________ KISS ... gotta love it!

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Secondary DNS for Paraguay's TLD?
by Michael Dillon 08 Mar '99

08 Mar '99

It appears that a network problem of some sort has knocked Paraguay's top level domain off the air. Not surprising when you look at the output for: whois py-dom and see this: NS.CNC.UNA.PY 200.10.228.132 SCE.CNC.UNA.PY 200.10.228.133 If anyone on this list is prepared to make a serious offer of secondary DNS for this country, then please email the admin contact gbellas(a)UCA.EDU.PY and the technical contact hmereles(a)CNC.UNA.PY. Of course, neither address will work until they get back on the air... -- Michael Dillon - E-mail: michael(a)memra.com Check the website for my Internet World articles - http://www.memra.com

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Re: CyberNotes: Network Infrastructure Protection Publication
by howland＠Priss.com 08 Mar '99

08 Mar '99

>ObNetwork: "One if by land, two if by sea" is one of the earlier routing >protocols on record. It was also a secure, encrypted comm system. I wonder what export controls there were on it at the time? :^> Curt-

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NANOG 16
by Pam Ciesla 08 Mar '99

08 Mar '99

The registration and information pages are available on the NANOG website http://www.nanog.org. Plan early, flights into Eugene can be limited. Pam Pam Ciesla Merit Network,Inc. 734-936-0172 - phone 4251 Plymouth Road 734-647-3185 Bldg.I, Suite C pam(a)merit.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48107

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Re: Internic
by stephen＠sprunk.org 08 Mar '99

08 Mar '99

Sez Nathan Stratton <nathan(a)robotics.net>: > I also have been trying to change nameserver IP address for a little > over a month. When I call them up, they keep giving me this we are > very busy story. Then they ask me to wait a week and send them email > if it is not done. Last time I did a server change, it was sent in on Friday, confirmed on Sunday, and effective Monday. Maybe NSI just slows down/loses registrations for people they don't like? S -- Stephen Sprunk, K5SSS "Oops." Email: stephen(a)sprunk.org CCIE #3723 -Albert Einstein ICBM: 33.00151N 96.82326W

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