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RE: Y2K Funny
by Robert Cannon 06 Jan '00

06 Jan '00

Well my browser shows that there are "Just 1899 years, 11 months, 26 days, 3 hours, 58 minutes, 24 seconds" until year 2000. Perhaps a difference in the way that Javascript is implemented in Netscape? Either way, I am relieved that we still have time. -B ------Original Message------ From: Jeff Harper <jharper(a)gte.com> To: "'Martin, Christian'" <CMartin(a)mercury.balink.com>, nanog(a)merit.net Sent: January 5, 2000 11:37:30 PM GMT Subject: RE: Y2K Funny The clock is showing negative numbers...since the countdown is over... -----Original Message----- From: Martin, Christian [mailto:CMartin@mercury.balink.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 5:19 PM To: nanog(a)merit.net Cc: 'Robert Cannon' Subject: RE: Y2K Funny Hrmm? Y2K has occurred! It is now - 18:27:7 on Jan 5, 2000 I don't get it... -----Original Message----- From: Robert Cannon [mailto:rmcannon@mail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 4:47 PM To: nanog(a)merit.net Subject: Y2K Funny Check out how much time is left until Y2K!!!! http://www.WWy2kW.org/WWy2kW_clock.htm ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com?sr=mc.mk.mcm.tag001 ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com?sr=mc.mk.mcm.tag001

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RE: Y2K Funny
by Martin, Christian 05 Jan '00

05 Jan '00

Hrmm? Y2K has occurred! It is now - 18:27:7 on Jan 5, 2000 I don't get it... -----Original Message----- From: Robert Cannon [mailto:rmcannon@mail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 4:47 PM To: nanog(a)merit.net Subject: Y2K Funny Check out how much time is left until Y2K!!!! http://www.WWy2kW.org/WWy2kW_clock.htm ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com?sr=mc.mk.mcm.tag001

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Y2K Funny
by Robert Cannon 05 Jan '00

05 Jan '00

Check out how much time is left until Y2K!!!! http://www.WWy2kW.org/WWy2kW_clock.htm ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com?sr=mc.mk.mcm.tag001

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NANOG 18
by Pam Ciesla 05 Jan '00

05 Jan '00

The NANOG attendee list has been updated thru Tuesday, 1/04/00. Any corrections please contact me. The hotel room block at the DoubleTree Hotel ends on 1/14. According to the hotel the block is almost full. Info can be found on the NANOG webpage http://www.nanog.org. Thanks Pam Pam Ciesla Events Coordinator Merit Network,Inc. 734-936-0172 - phone 4251 Plymouth Road 734-647-3185 - fax Bldg.I, Suite 2000 pam(a)merit.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48105

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Root Server Problems
by Justin M. Wilson 05 Jan '00

05 Jan '00

Did they lose a little bit of their database over the weekend? Exhibit 1 (Database Record Showing Existing Domain): Domain Name: JSJ4.COM Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: www.networksolutions.com Name Server: ORION.SRA.COM Name Server: PYXIS.SRA.COM Exhibit 2 (Lookups Showing Working DNS On Both Nameservers): > server orion.sra.com Default Server: orion.sra.com Address: 151.200.85.103 > www.jsj4.com Server: orion.sra.com Address: 151.200.85.103 Name: www.jsj4.com Address: 151.200.85.114 > server pyxis.sra.com Default Server: pyxis.sra.com Address: 151.200.85.111 > www.jsj4.com Server: pyxis.sra.com Address: 151.200.85.111 Name: www.jsj4.com Address: 151.200.85.114 Exhibit 3 (Response of Sample Root Server): > jsj4.com. Server: f.root-servers.net Address: 192.5.5.241 *** f.root-servers.net can't find jsj4.com.: Non-existent host/domain Exhibit 4 (Ordinary Response of Root Server, When Encountered With Working Domain): > cavtel.org. Server: f.root-servers.net Address: 192.5.5.241 Name: cavtel.org Served by: - DNS01.CAVTEL.NET 205.160.16.10 cavtel.org - DNS02.CAVTEL.NET 205.160.17.10 cavtel.org ---- Justin M. Wilson justin(a)justin.net justin(a)cavtel.net justin.wilson(a)vcu.edu

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Independent rating service of colocation facilities
by Sean Donelan 04 Jan '00

04 Jan '00

Is there an independent rating service of colocation and hosting facilities. For example, when a hosting company claims they have "Class A" space (whatever that means), does anyone actually check? Or if there isn't, would people be interested in such a service similar to what Underwriters Laboratories or Factory Mutual does for alarm monitoring central offices; but for Internet colocation and hosting facilities?

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through puts
by Tatsuya Kawasaki 04 Jan '00

04 Jan '00

Hi nanog, Say customer has 64K connection, what is consider acceptable "real" speed? I know it seems that because of compression, you get higher speed. Does anyone has any info on this. Tatsuya /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Tatsuya Kawasaki Allegiance Telecom Unlock the Power of the Internet http://www.kivex.com Phone 301.215.6777 Fax 301.215.5991 Affiliation given for identification not representation /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

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Re: remember the lesson of the sendsys bomb
by Sean Donelan 04 Jan '00

04 Jan '00

On Tue, 04 January 2000, "Alex P. Rudnev" wrote: > What was you talking about? Wait a few days and compare the bills; don't wonder > seen '290% fee or 1024 hours/day', or 'we can not measure your login time'. > > Real problems are waiting for us yet. How will you be able to tell? Some companies have never sent me a correct bill on the first try the entire time I was a custoemr. I doubt they will suddenly be able to send me a correct bill just because its now the year 2000. There will be small glitches in various systems, but you will never hear about them because most will be fixed before too many customers notice. More likely things will get blamed on Y2K which are really dumb operator errors.

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Agenda topics for NANOG18
by Susan R. Harris 04 Jan '00

04 Jan '00

Greetings everyone - here are topics we've lined up so far for NANOG18 in San Jose (February 6-8). Further information is available on the Web: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0002/ ------------------------------------------------ - State-of-the-Art Multicast: A User's View Dave Meyer, Cisco - Does BGP Solve the Shortest-Paths Problem? Timothy Griffin, Bell Labs - Building an MPLS Exchange Point Steve Feldman, MCI WorldCom - The Need for Improved Connectivity in Tier 2-4 Markets John Brown, iHighway - Sweden in 2005: 5 Mbit to Every Household Peter Lothberg, Sprint - What to Expect from BIND9 Paul Vixie, Internet Software Consortium - Large-scale Mail Server Architectures Hakan Millroth, Bluetail - ARIN Update Kim Hubbard/ARIN staff - NSI Registry Root/gTLD Update Tom Newell and Mark Kosters, Network Solutions - The RIPE-NCC Routing Information Service (or, "Where Would You Have Gone Yesterday?") Henk Uijterwaal and Antony Antony, RIPE-NCC - The RIPE-NCC Test Traffic Measurements Project Henk Uijterwaal, RIPE-NCC - Protection Options for IP over Optical Transport Larry McAdams, Cisco - Exchange Point Updates - Japan Internet Exchange (JPIX): Yoshikazu Ikeda and Toshiki Ueda - PAIX.NET: Paul Vixie - LINX: Keith Mitchell - AADS: Andrew Schmidt - Ames Exchanges: Lance Tatman - Brazilian Internet Exchange (BIX): Reinaldo Penno Filo Sunday Tutorials ---------------- - IS-IS for ISPs (Howard Berkowitz, Gett Communications) - MPLS Traffic Engineering Overview (Robert Raszuk, Cisco) Monday Evening BOFs ------------------ - ARIN Micro Allocations (Cathy Wittbrodt, @Home, moderator) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Susan R. Harris, Ph.D. Merit Network, Inc. Phone: 734.936.2100 Senior Science Writer Univ. of Michigan Fax: 734.647.3185 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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remember the lesson of the sendsys bomb
by Paul A Vixie 04 Jan '00

04 Jan '00

at the 1988 usenix in san francisco, rick adams of uunet ran the uucp bof and told a story of a forged sendsys message intended to melt somebody's inbox. this was timed to coincide with a usenix, since most news admins would be at the show rather than home watching their servers. (shows did not have terminal rooms at that time.) thus the cats were away the mice were at play. (sendsys, for those of you not in the news field, is a 'control message' that used to be used to get a news-neighbor to send their "sys" file via e-mail; this was used for debugging and early access controls on it were nonexistent.) well, most of the news servers by that time were configured to mail all such control messages to their local administrator, who could then approve them by hand if they weren't stupid and abusive (which they almost always were). so the forger's intent of inundating some victim's inbox with thousands of "sys" files from autoresponding systems seemed destined for some frustration. except that so many admins were away and had set up "vacation" autoresponders saying "hi, i'm at usenix, i'll be back on friday" and so few of these vacation robots had enough intelligence to not autorespond to other robotic e-mail such as "sendsys message received - approval required" that the news system ended up melting the victim's inbox ANYWAY. the lesson of the sendsys is that after a 24 or 36 hour period of continuous wakefulness, sean and alan and the rest are going to have to SLEEP. *that* will be the time when some perfectly normal event like a route spew or heavy flap or genetic IOS defect will make itself known, and *that* will be the time when Y2K finally kicks us all in the head. not because of the date change, but because everybody stayed awake too long and upset their normal vigilence.

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