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Re: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting
by David Charlap 01 Sep '00

01 Sep '00

"Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote: > > everything to the right side of the final dot. Such as in > "/etc/named.conf" the extension is "conf". A better example is > "/usr/local/src/whois.1.9.0/readme.txt" where the extension is "txt". True, in a literal understanding. But in the sense of "a part of the filename used to identify the format or purpose of the file content", it's not always correct. "extension" is a term that stems from the DOS days, when it was actually stored separately in the directory structure of the file system. Today, however, you find this information encoded into filenames in a wide variety of ways. Type information may be in the form of a prefix, a suffix, multiple prefixes, or multiple suffixes. It may be delimited by periods, dashes, other characters, or even by no characters at all. For example: conf.modules myarchive.tar.gz libstdc++-2-libc6.1-1-2.9.0.a kernel-headers-2.2.16-3.i386.rpm An "extension" is only one specific subset of the infinite number of possible ways that type information can be, and often is, encoded into filenames. Unfortunately, this creates the reality that any code which tries to deduce a file type from a filename will require a huge (and ever increasing) set of parsing rules (probably some form of regular expressions) in order to to the job properly. Even more unfortunately, the Windows world hasn't figured this out yet, and only looks at strings that follow a period at the end of a name. -- David

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Root zone change -- Informational message
by Verd, Brad 01 Sep '00

01 Sep '00

Informational Message: The IP for m.gtld-servers.net will be changed in the authoritative list for .com, .net, and .org. Changes will be reflected in the zone with serial number 2000083001 -------------------------------------- Brad Verd gTLD Operations Manager Network Solutions Registry Email - bverd(a)netsol.com ---------------------------------------

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Re: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting
by Scott Bradner 01 Sep '00

01 Sep '00

< > ISOC has a defined membership - nanog does not < No. But ARIN does. And this is an ARIN issue, not a NANOG one, as Alec < pointed out. yes it is an ARIN issue but ARIN established teh public policy meeting and mailing list to take input - it would be nice to have a way of understanding the level of support for a proposal in the ops community before the ARIN members go off to vote Scott

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RE: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting
by Scott Bradner 01 Sep '00

01 Sep '00

> How about voting on the Internet ISOC style? who should vote? ISOC has a defined membership - nanog does not the issue of how to figure out consensus on a mailing list is not an easy one - its one of the things the IETF has a lot of fun with Scott

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Re: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting
by Scott Bradner 01 Sep '00

01 Sep '00

> as such referring to any > meetings they might hold as "public" would seem to me to be somewhat of a > misnomer. ARIN hosts a public policy meeting that anyone, member or not, can attend (there is a fee for non-members to cover the actual costs of the meeting) there is also a member meeting for members - the next public policy meeting is in early october in the Dulles area Scott

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BART strikes again - Pacbell/SFO
by Sean Donelan 01 Sep '00

01 Sep '00

A contractor for BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) in San Francisco drilled into a Pacific Bell cable near the San Francisco Airport today. In addition to disruptingphone service, it also took out some of the circuits used for reservation computers at SFO.

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ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting
by Richard Jimmerson 01 Sep '00

01 Sep '00

Please keep in mind this policy is a result of discussions held at the ARIN public policy meeting in Calgary earlier this year. The policy does state ARIN will accept IP-based hosting as justification for an allocation if an exception is warranted. ARIN is looking to the community to define these exceptions and finds the discussions being held here to be very helpful. This information will be included in the policy discussion at the upcoming ARIN public policy meeting. These discussions may create changes to the current policy, perhaps by clearly defining a list of exceptions, or may even eliminate the new policy altogether. Your feedback on this mailing list and at the upcoming public policy meeting is important. Information about the upcoming public policy meeting can be found at: http://www.arin.net/announcements/memmeet.html Best Regards, American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

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RE: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting
by Roeland M.J. Meyer 01 Sep '00

01 Sep '00

How about voting on the Internet ISOC style? > -----Original Message----- > From: Rodney Joffe [mailto:rjoffe@centergate.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:37 PM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting > > > > > > Patrick Greenwell wrote: > > > Have you considered the possibility that some people do not > have the time > > to be physically present when votes on how everyone will be > forced to run > > their business are taken? > > That's a disingenuous response, Patrick. > > Perhaps you could suggest an alternative? Not having a vote > because some > people can't be there is no way to run a democracy, which this still > appears to be in this case. > > Would an absentee ballot system work for you? How would you be part of > the discussions? > > What would you have happen? > > -- > Rodney Joffe > CenterGate Research Group, LLC. > http://www.centergate.com > "Technology so advanced, even we don't understand it!"(SM) >

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Re: [Fwd: USWest]
by John Fraizer 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 sysop(a)uswest.net wrote: > U S WEST ISOps is very concerned that its services and products > not be used to harass others, abuse the network or interfere > with other users' enjoyment of the Internet. We apologize > that this situation has occurred. Sure you are. > > Unfortunately, your message does not appear to include the full > message headers. Without the full message headers, especially the > "Received" lines, we can not investigate this issue. > Not a problem. Next time it happens, I'll see just how much hate your can swallow before it blows up. I'm willing to bet that we have more than enough capacity to get your attention. Perhaps THAN you will be able to "further investigate" the issue. Ya'll have fun with your little SPAM friendly network, ya hear? John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc

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Re: What's a file extension?
by Mufti Ahmed 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

Do you know what a computer is? Jeff Wheat <jeff(a)cetlink.net> on 08/31/2000 02:55:16 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu cc: (bcc: Mufti Ahmed/NYC/US/Reuters) Subject: Re: What's a file extension? It may also be a handle that is attached to the end of a metal file which allows the operator of said file to have more control and/or comfort while working. Many carpenters use such a file extention :) *grin* Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of > Roeland M.J. Meyer > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 2:19 PM > To: Alex Kamantauskas; Andrew Brown > Cc: Jeff Mcadams; nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: RE: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting > > > > everything to the right side of the final dot. Such as in > "/etc/named.conf" the extension is "conf". A better example is > "/usr/local/src/whois.1.9.0/readme.txt" where the extension is "txt". > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alex Kamantauskas [mailto:alexk@tugger.net] > > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 7:19 AM > > To: Andrew Brown > > Cc: Jeff Mcadams; nanog(a)merit.edu > > Subject: Re: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting > > > > > > > > On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Andrew Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > the mime type is made up, usually based on the file's > > extension, which > > > is, of course, passed along with the contents of the file when you > > > transfer it. it's no extra information in this context. > > > > > > > What's a file extension? > > > > -- > > Alex Kamantauskas > > alexk(a)tugger.net > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd.

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