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Re: Re: Is MPLS based VPN really feasible in real world situation?
by nanog＠btamail.net.cn 05 Dec '00

05 Dec '00

Does it scale well? Will you ask for the feeling of your operators facing these PVCs? > > On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Yu Ning wrote: > > > Hi Nanog, > > > > We've noticed that Global one has already begin to sell its MPLS based VPN, > > but we heard the Cisco people says that MPLS can't be widely deployed. Does > > anyone know any further detail of Global one's MPLS based VPN, is it real? > > Any additional operational cost than traditional VPN ? > > Well I can tell you at Exario we decided to go with ATM, we just were not > ready to sell MPLS based VPNs. Voice is a vary strong part of our solution > and that compounded the problems. > > ><> > Nathan Stratton CTO, Exario Networks, Inc. > nathan(a)robotics.net nathan(a)exario.net > http://www.robotics.net http://www.exario.net > > ---------------------------------------------- »¶ÓÊ¹ÓÃ BTA µç×ÓÓÊŒþÏµÍ³ http://btamail.net.cn Thank you for using BTA Email system

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Is MPLS based VPN really feasible in real world situation?
by Yu Ning 05 Dec '00

05 Dec '00

Hi Nanog, We've noticed that Global one has already begin to sell its MPLS based VPN, but we heard the Cisco people says that MPLS can't be widely deployed. Does anyone know any further detail of Global one's MPLS based VPN, is it real? Any additional operational cost than traditional VPN ? Here is the Glob alone news. Today's focus: Good times for Global One ----------------------------------------------- By Denise Pappalardo Global One last week was tooting its own horn. The company announced that it inked deals with more than 20 "major multinational companies in the U.S., Europe, South America and Asia.All of these new customers are using Global One's Global IP VPN service that's based on Multiprotocol Label Switching technology. Some of the 20 new customers include Renault Spain, Agrupacion Mutual Aseguradora and Sysigsa. Global IP VPN service is available in 35 countries: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Korea, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Singapore, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, U.S., United Kingdom and Venezuela. The service uses Cisco 7500 series routers that support MPLS for advanced traffic engineering, which allows users to set priority levels for various types of traffic. The service runs over France Telecom's global terabit fiber optic network that connects 250 cities in 16 European countries. France Telecom, which is now the sole owner of Global One, also recently announced that it is building a 15,000-mile fiber-optic network in North America that will span 28 cities. The service provider offers another version of its Global IP VPN service that runs over its frame relay network in 75 countries. -------------------------------------- (Mr.) Yu Ning, Chief Eng. Internet Network Product Dep. Data Com. Bureau, China Telecom Beijing, P.R.C. +86-10-62072357/54 -------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- (Mr.) Yu Ning, Chief Eng. Internet Network Product Dep. Data Com. Bureau, China Telecom Beijing, P.R.C. +86-10-62072357/54 --------------------------------------

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Re: Is MPLS based VPN really feasible in real world situation?
by Steve Carter 05 Dec '00

05 Dec '00

> > We've noticed that Global one has already begin to sell its MPLS based VPN, > > but we heard the Cisco people says that MPLS can't be widely deployed. Does > > anyone know any further detail of Global one's MPLS based VPN, is it real? > > Any additional operational cost than traditional VPN ? I apologise, it's probably my interpretation, but I don't understand. Can you be more specific regarding the statement that Cisco said MPLS can't be widely deployed? It is widely deployed today, and in some pretty large networks. -Steve

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re: Anyone with a clue at CAIS.NET?
by Matt Levine 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

Roy, We're CAIS's largest colo customer (yeah..scary thought..shudder).. Lemme know what info you need and I can get it for you. Matt -- Matt Levine, CTO <mlevine(a)efront.com> eFront Media, Inc. - http://www.efront.com Phone: +1 714 428 8500 ext. 504 Fax : +1 949 203 2156 ICQ : 17080004

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Anyone with a clue at CAIS.NET?
by Roy 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

Does anyone have a number of someone at CAIS with a clue? We are trying to garner information on an attack that seems to have originated in the CAIS address space. I have made several phone calls but I just keep getting switched between people. Roy Engehausen

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RE: Internet metrics
by Schmiedt, Jamie 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

Just wanted to thank all of you that responded to my question. The links I received are very useful (well, accept for Dan G's. :) They are listed below. Thanks again. http://www.caida.org/ www.andovernews.com http://www.ksu.edu/Internet2/network.html http://www.miq.net/ http://www.gomeznetworks.com http://www.dslreports.com/stest/0 http://computingcentral.msn.com/topics/bandwidth/speedtest500.asp http://www.cable-modems.org/toolbox/speed_test/ http://www.2wire.com/bandwidth/bmresult.asp?kbps=898.3 http://support.midco.net/test/ -jamie -----Original Message----- From: Schmiedt, Jamie Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 4:02 PM To: 'nanog(a)merit.edu' Subject: Internet metrics I am looking for websites that deal with bandwidth and performance metrics as they pertain to the Internet? Anything and everything goes. I need to get a snapshot in time of things like "the average speed of the Internet", the average size of e-mail messages, the average size of a web page, peering points and hosting facilities, current bottlenecks be they hardware, software or networks. Any cool links for this sorta info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance -jamie

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Internet performance measures compared to other industires
by Sean Donelan 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

I wonder if I'm sensitized to Internet problems in comparison to other industries. I checked a couple of other industries often given as examples of high uptimes, and found similar problems. Ameritech will compensate 150,000 customers who waited more than 48 hours for a repair, or more than 7 days past the installation due date since January 1 2000. Ameritech is under investigation in four other states for missed dates and repair problems. An e-merchant reports credit card fraud verification system nonfunctional 22 percent of the time. Mastercard and Visa didn't reply to press inquiries. NASDAQ reports 99.96% system availability since January 1 2000. AT&T, the only ISP I know publicly posting connection stats, reports 99% connect success last month.

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Re: Network Availability Tool
by Toby_Williams＠enron.net 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

If you're looking for an on-net tool then one of the following might be OK www.entuity.com - currently make a LAN product but are developing for the WAN http://www.lucent-networkcare.com/software/vitalsuite/vitalnet/index.asp http://www.desktalk.com/ http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/wr2k/svmnv1/prodlit/slm_ds.htm Toby

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RE: Who's peering at Ameritech?
by Jason Lixfeld 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

I appreciate the comments of those who have suggested that I check the RSNG. There is a difference in the total number of peers listed on the RSNG verses the number of peers listed on the AADS site. My question is wether the difference is simply due to the fact that not everyone peering at AADS is peering with the RSNG and all those who are listed on AADS' site are infact connected and exchanging traffic? -----Original Message----- From: Jason Lixfeld To: 'nanog(a)nanog.org' Sent: 12/3/00 9:46 PM Subject: Who's peering at Ameritech? For those of you who are peering at Ameritech, would it be possible to send me a list of AS' of all who you are peering with there? I'm trying to gather some traffic statistics to see if it's worth running an OC3 there from Toronto. Plugging the AS' into Flowscan should give me the number I need. If this question raises any eyebrows, does AADS have a route-server that I can peer with and grab the AS' for myself? Their site mentions a route-server in the list of peers, but it doesn't say if you can setup a peering session with it, so I figure maybe someone on the inside would know. Thx in advance. Regards, -- Jason A. Lixfeld Senior Network Engineer Look Communications Inc. -- jlixfeld(a)team.look.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - This email server is running an evaluation copy of the MailShield anti- spam software. Please contact your email administrator if you have any questions about this message. MailShield product info: www.mailshield.com

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Who's peering at Ameritech?
by Jason Lixfeld 04 Dec '00

04 Dec '00

For those of you who are peering at Ameritech, would it be possible to send me a list of AS' of all who you are peering with there? I'm trying to gather some traffic statistics to see if it's worth running an OC3 there from Toronto. Plugging the AS' into Flowscan should give me the number I need. If this question raises any eyebrows, does AADS have a route-server that I can peer with and grab the AS' for myself? Their site mentions a route-server in the list of peers, but it doesn't say if you can setup a peering session with it, so I figure maybe someone on the inside would know. Thx in advance. Regards, -- Jason A. Lixfeld Senior Network Engineer Look Communications Inc. -- jlixfeld(a)team.look.ca

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