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Re: m$ blames icann
by Chris Yarnell 24 Jan '01

24 Jan '01

It'd take it with a grain of salt. It's an IDG article. > http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/computing/01/24/microsoft.blackout.idg/index.h… > > Oh no, can't possibly be our own servers...

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RE: Great job AT&T (re: Microsoft problems)
by Chris Davis 24 Jan '01

24 Jan '01

If you need access to Microsoft sites, try adding 24.88.1.66 to your DNS search list in your TCP/IP properties. That's an AT&T Broadband DNS server. Their DNS servers are having fairly good luck with Microsoft sites. I can get http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp?fr=0&SD=GN&LN=EN-US and http://lc7.law5.hotmail.passport.com/cgi-bin/login this way. Before I added 24.88.1.66 to my DNS search list, I couldn't get anything useful. -----Original Message----- From: Charles Sprickman [mailto:spork@inch.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:52 PM To: Dave McKay Cc: Sean Donelan; nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Re: Great job AT&T (re: Microsoft problems) On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Dave McKay wrote: > Hotmail has had no impact regarding this issue. Umm... On hitting hotmail.com, my browser immediately starts trying to fetch things from passport.com, which is unreachable. Technically, hotmail wasn't affected in that your redirect to passport.com was working. But seeing as the main index page brings me here: http://lc1.law13.hotmail.passport.com/cgi-bin/login and this domain is served by: DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.11 DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.12 I'd have to say most people were not able to access their hotmail account. I can support this with the tons of calls support got today about "hotmail being down". Damn that ICANN. Charles > -- > Dave McKay > dave(a)sneakerz.org > Microsoft Global Network Architect >

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Re: Great job AT&T (re: Microsoft problems)
by Charles Sprickman 24 Jan '01

24 Jan '01

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Dave McKay wrote: > Hotmail has had no impact regarding this issue. Umm... On hitting hotmail.com, my browser immediately starts trying to fetch things from passport.com, which is unreachable. Technically, hotmail wasn't affected in that your redirect to passport.com was working. But seeing as the main index page brings me here: http://lc1.law13.hotmail.passport.com/cgi-bin/login and this domain is served by: DNS4.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.11 DNS5.CP.MSFT.NET 207.46.138.12 I'd have to say most people were not able to access their hotmail account. I can support this with the tons of calls support got today about "hotmail being down". Damn that ICANN. Charles > -- > Dave McKay > dave(a)sneakerz.org > Microsoft Global Network Architect >

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Microsoft starts to limp back onto the Internet
by Sean Donelan 24 Jan '01

24 Jan '01

Microsoft seems to be resolving (pun) its domain name problems. Several names appear to be working again, at least intermittently. As best I can tell, the problem begain about 6:30pm last night. Although it probablly didn't start to effect a significant number of people for a few hours depending on how long the cache timeouts lasted. I still haven't heard back from msnnoc(a)microsoft.com (no phone number listed on puck.nether.net)

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Re: Great job AT&T (re: Microsoft problems)
by Tony Rall 24 Jan '01

24 Jan '01

The problem with hotmail is not in accessing their web site (it is resolvable and loadable). But login requires a (hidden) link to passport.com, The dns for passport.com is on 2 of the 4 microsoft nameservers that aren't responding. Thus you will not be able to login to hotmail until this is fixed. Tony Rall "Mike Lewinski" <mike(a)rockynet.com>@merit.edu on 2001-01-24 12:10:22 Sent by: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu To: <nanog(a)merit.edu> cc: Subject: Re: Great job AT&T (re: Microsoft problems) > > Most Microsoft sites (Microsoft.com, MSN.com, Hotmail.com, etc.) > > are affected. The Microsoft technical team is troubleshooting this > > issue. > > Hotmail has had no impact regarding this issue. That's *not* what our clients have reported or what I observe. Some clients have hotmail set as their start page and are calling to report "The internet is DOWN!" To make matters worse, IE's default 'auto.search.msn.com' which is used when a site is unreachable is itself unreachable. So client's aren't even getting the marginally useful error page normally displayed if a site can't be contacted. I observed the same behaviors from a dialup outside our network ~9am MST, and no connections to www.hotmail.com were possible. It doesn't appear to be a DNS resolution issue for 'hotmail.com', as I can telnet www.hotmail.com 80 and GET / HTTP1.1 to retrieve the page. But Internet Explorer does *not* load the page, appearing to hang while attempting to access 'passport.com' which does not have resolution currently. Mike

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Re: Great job AT&T (re: Microsoft problems)
by Mike Lewinski 24 Jan '01

24 Jan '01

> > Most Microsoft sites (Microsoft.com, MSN.com, Hotmail.com, etc.) > > are affected. The Microsoft technical team is troubleshooting this > > issue. > > Hotmail has had no impact regarding this issue. That's *not* what our clients have reported or what I observe. Some clients have hotmail set as their start page and are calling to report "The internet is DOWN!" To make matters worse, IE's default 'auto.search.msn.com' which is used when a site is unreachable is itself unreachable. So client's aren't even getting the marginally useful error page normally displayed if a site can't be contacted. I observed the same behaviors from a dialup outside our network ~9am MST, and no connections to www.hotmail.com were possible. It doesn't appear to be a DNS resolution issue for 'hotmail.com', as I can telnet www.hotmail.com 80 and GET / HTTP1.1 to retrieve the page. But Internet Explorer does *not* load the page, appearing to hang while attempting to access 'passport.com' which does not have resolution currently. Mike

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Re: [OT]: Involuntary outages may start at 7am PST
by Kevin Oberman 24 Jan '01

24 Jan '01

> From: "Kavi, Prabhu" <prabhu_kavi(a)tenornetworks.com> > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:25:43 -0500 > Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu > > > Quoting from the 1/22/01 online issue of US News & World Report: > > "Ironically, California's nightmare stems in part from the state's efforts > to lower rates. In 1996, both houses of the state legislature voted > unanimously to deregulate the market for wholesale electricity, enabling > power producers to sell electricity to utilities on the spot market. But the > new law failed to create a free retail market-in most cases, rates for > consumers and businesses were fixed until at least April 2002. ... > No major power plant has been built in California for more than a > decade, partly because of environmental restrictions." > > And in the 1/29/01 online issue: > > "... In California, however, utilities were forbidden to enter into > long-term supply contracts and were forced immediately to buy energy > in the volatile wholesale spot market." > > So tell me, how could PG&E have accurately forecasted the booming > demand for power back in 1996 and protected themselves, given no > new plants were being built? They could/did not. They made a corporate bet and they lost. That does not make it someone else's fault. PG&E and SO. Cal. Edison were major forces in lobbying for the regulatory changes that have driven them to the edge of insolvency. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman(a)es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634

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Re: Great job AT&T (re: Microsoft problems)
by Jeff Frost 24 Jan '01

24 Jan '01

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Dave McKay wrote: > > Sean Donelan (sean(a)donelan.com) wrote: > > > > Well, AT&T couldn't fix the problem, but at least their customer > > service people knew there was a problem and were willing to attempt > > contact with someone at Microsoft. > > > > Most Microsoft sites (Microsoft.com, MSN.com, Hotmail.com, etc.) > > are affected. The Microsoft technical team is troubleshooting this > > issue. > > Hotmail has had no impact regarding this issue. > > Dave, are you certain of that? Because I can't get to the hotmail.com login page right this second and have received complaints from several associates that they can't get into their hotmail accounts. -- Jeff Frost VP Technology <jeff(a)digitalpipe.net> Digital Pipe Communications, Inc.

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What is going on in the PAC NW (Microsoft Outage)
by SMcGrath＠dhhs.state.nh.us 24 Jan '01

24 Jan '01

Is there any information available about Microsoft and MS related companies being unavailable the customers are restless

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[Possibly OT] Need to Rent/Lease a Core Switch
by Karyn Ulriksen 24 Jan '01

24 Jan '01

We are in the process of migrating our DataCenter to a new location. To accomodate a smooth transition, we are in need of either renting or leasing a "core level" switch to use while we bring up both datacenters in tandem. The equipment requirements are as follows: Minimum 8 GigE GBIX (Fiber) Ports Minimum 24 10/100 ethernet Ports Layer 3 Routing (prefer BGP, OSPF mimimally) 802.1q VLAN capable up to 254 VLANs. Prefer dual power and dual MSM/RPC modules for redundancy. Minimum 32Gbps thruput Required Install Date: February 1, 2001 Currently considering Extreme Networks Black Diamond 6808, Extreme Networks Alpine, and Cisco 6000/6500 series. Willing to consider others that meet above criteria. Please contact me off list at kulriksen(a)publichost.com or 949-743-2014. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Best regards, Karyn Ulriksen Director of Network Operations PublicHost, A SiteStream Company 1 Jenner, Suite 100 Irvine, California 92618 USA Phone: (949) 743-2000 email: kulriksen(a)publichost.com URL: http://www.publichost.com ===========================================

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