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PSI free peering
by jlewis＠lewis.org 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Has anyone actually successfully taken advantage of this offer recently? I started looking into it about 2 months ago. Did the NDA over a month ago. The account rep assigned to me was going to see which of their POPs was closest to one of our POPs and get back to me in a few days. He never did get back to me and I've been leaving him voice mail every few days for the past month. He never answers his phone and has not returned my calls. When I tried to go around him and get a different account rep, I was told nobody else could touch the account for 60 days since it was "his account". Is this the normal routine with PSI, or did I just get the rep from hell? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis(a)lewis.org*| I route System Administrator | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________

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home.nl NOC contact number.
by Scott Walker 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Does anyone happen to have a contact number for home.nl's noc? I need to speak with someone there ASAP about a incident that just occured. -- Scott Walker scott(a)unspeakable.org Cell 954.444.3408 http://www.unspeakable.org Network/Security Administrator "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim ." E. W. Dijkstra

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Re: Does peering at an ATM MAE require a router that does ABR?
by Alex 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Damn. I read that wrong. I thought it said 'cannot be mixed'. It's true, they can be mixed. Maybe I shouldn't be replying to emails 4 minutes after waking up. All your MAE-ATM ports are belong to us. On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Nenad Trifunovic wrote: > Service types can be mixed on same access port

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Re: Does peering at an ATM MAE require a router that does ABR?
by Alex 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Right. However, > Service types can be mixed on same access port Is false. On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Nenad Trifunovic wrote: > > http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0010/bechly.html (slide 4) > > New �Best Effort� service (11/00) > ABR service with congestion control in core > MCR = 100 cells/second > PCR is set to fixed percentage of access port speed > PCR for DS3 is 100% of port speed (45 Mbps) > PCR for OC3 is 66% of port speed (99.22 Mbps) > PCR for OC12 is 50% of port speed (300.67 Mbps) > Total MCR cannot exceed access port speed > Service types can be mixed on same access port

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Next NANOG
by Pete Kruckenberg 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Was the date/place of the next NANOG announced in Atlanta? Pete.

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for network monkeys
by bera badsa 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

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Does peering at an ATM MAE require a router that does ABR?
by tek weeny 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

I have been told by various people that to peer at an ATM MAE point I must have a router that can do ABR? Can anyone verify if this is the case at any of the ATM MAE peering points? Thanks, Julian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Fwd: New York's Con Ed sends power to a telecom hotel -- its own
by Steve Goldstein 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

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Visit our fabulous >15-year celebration page on Network World Fusion for complete >details: http://napps.nwfusion.com/15th.html >_______________________________________________________________ >Today's focus: New York's Con Ed sends power to a telecom > hotel -- its own > >By David Rohde > >Recently we reported that the rise of collocation spaces for carriers >and ISPs built largely on speculation has raised alarms at electric >companies. They fear that proposals for such concentrated uses of >power - up to 10 times the normal load for a commercial office >building - could tax their ability to build out their power grids. > >So here's an irony for you. New York's Consolidated Edison Co., far >from shooing away collocation providers, has decided to become one >itself. > >Actually, the idea for a new collocation facility in Manhattan comes >from Con Edison Communications (CEC), the electric utility's telecom >subsidiary. CEC participates in a major telecom hotel at 111 Eighth >Ave. in Manhattan, and last week announced it was offering 22,000 >square feet of collocation space to ISPs, CLECs and value-added >service providers. > >CEC has hired 15-year Bell Atlantic veteran Peter Rust as president >to lead the company's charge into the wholesale carrier's carrier >business - which, in New York, could include services to financial >firms that run big-time private networks. > >CEC is running fiber up and down the island of Manhattan. It aims to >directly connect 1,000 buildings in the next four years, and put >itself within a few blocks of all the other buildings. It competes >with metro fiber players like Metromedia Fiber Network, whose new >long-haul buildout we wrote about last week >(http://www.nwfusion.com/edge/columnists/2001/0219edge1.html) but >CEC is concentrating on lighting its own fiber for both pure optical >and SONET-ready services. > >Among CEC's key suppliers are Cisco for its Cerent family of >next-generation SONET boxes running up to OC-48, and Nortel for its >OPTera metro optical switches supporting dense wave-division >multiplexing (DWDM). > >CEC doesn't have religious fervor about which technologies to favor, >just a conviction that carriers in New York City need massive amounts >of capacity. It'll support TDM, Gigabit Ethernet and pure IP. It'll >also support DWDM, but only from POP to POP, not directly to the >enterprise. "I can't cost-justify offering wavelengths to the >building," Rust tells me. > >Still, one of the things CEC will be promoting to service providers >is the ability to run directly into buildings where all the >enterprise customers are located. Rust says that his building model >leaves him less concerned about the typical problems with in-building >broadband service, centering around service providers who play a >chicken-and-egg game of waiting to serve a building until they have >signed up customers there. > >That's largely a problem where service providers are trying to >cost-justify T-1 voice and data services with relatively scant profit >margins, he says. CEC and its carrier customers are going after >bigger fish. "We'll offer a T-1 if we're in a building anyway," says >Rust. "But we're not going to go into a building just for a T-1." > >Regarding power requirements, Rust turns what others consider a >problem into an opportunity. Perhaps because New York already has >well-established carrier meet points, "there aren't that many collo >hotels in the city," he says. "There are a number proposed, but I >don't think they're all going to be built." The main point is this: >"There are options for power companies - to go into the on-site >generator business in these buildings, either primary or back-up." > >Right now CEC is concentrating on the New York metro area, but it has >applied for necessary regulatory approvals to operate in states from >Maine to Washington, D.C. It's partnered with Neon Communications, >which providers long-haul fiber transport services linking the >population centers in the Northeast. > >_______________________________________________________________ >To contact David Rohde: > >David Rohde, managing editor of Network World's The Edge, has >been covering and analyzing telecom issues - from plain old >telephone service to optical networking and everything >between - since 1990. 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RE:
by Matthew Schlegel 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I did have problems with call completion throughout most of the day yesterday, but I think that can be safely attributed to overwelming call volumes. Normally I do not have any problems with my PCS phone around 425/206/360 area codes. I've also had my phone around san jose area with no problems. Matthew Schlegel Network Engineer Crossgain Corporation - -----Original Message----- From: CARL.P.HIRSCH(a)sargentlundy.com [mailto:CARL.P.HIRSCH@sargentlundy.com] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 8:22 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: So you're saying everything's okay now? This is consistent with results on my Sprint PCS phone in the 773/312 earthquake or no. I've learned to just not rely on the thing and take my measly $20 SLA discount from them on a monthly basis. Can't wait until GSM hits Chicago. >I have a Sprint PCS phone, all calls dialed left me with a fast busy >(when I could get carrier) until about about 30 minutes ago. >Now it rings but I get disconnected when the call tries to connect. >Regards, >Chris - -carl hirsch network analyst sargent & lundy llc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBOp58yitAKYXwpQg1EQKVpACg2Bm/fCTnGJ6QaOqspwwfapOEN8oAoJSS dYEfc1mHRfG92j262wpAIWwT =pH46 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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(no subject)
by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

So you're saying everything's okay now? This is consistent with results on my Sprint PCS phone in the 773/312 earthquake or no. I've learned to just not rely on the thing and take my measly $20 SLA discount from them on a monthly basis. Can't wait until GSM hits Chicago. >I have a Sprint PCS phone, all calls dialed left me with a fast busy >(when I could get carrier) until about about 30 minutes ago. >Now it rings but I get disconnected when the call tries to connect. >Regards, >Chris -carl hirsch network analyst sargent & lundy llc

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