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RE: FreeIP database program
by Irwin Lazar 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

visit www.itprc.com/tcp_ip.htm for a list -----Original Message----- From: Rishi Singh [mailto:RSingh@Tradescape.com] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 5:19 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: FreeIP database program A few months ago, I saw a posting on NANOG for a database program that manages IP addresses, that runs off a linux box. Does anyone remember the name of that program? Searches on Google with keywords, "free IP database" doesn't return anything useful. Thanks

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Relocating Data Center Operation
by james eldritch 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

Hello All I'm currently consulting with a client and one of the project's requirement is to relocate one of the cage in the West Coast Data Center operation in Santa Clara to another Data Center 30 miles away. My question is twofold, have anyone out there been involved in similar project and if so, how have you gone by sending out an RFP for competitive rate. I wanted to send out an RFP to a central location and have various companies respond, but searching thru google, I haven't seen too many moving companies specializing in network infrastructure move. Thanks James _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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RE: Crawler Ettiquette
by O'Neil,Kevin 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

We have a research project at OCLC that does web crawling. We created an email account (netsecurity(a)oclc.org) that admins could contact and posted the email address at the web site from which the crawling was done. That way when admins see our IP address in their firewall logs (from attempted http connects), they could browse to that address and see an explanation of the project and send email to the contact address to get more info or request removal from the IP space being crawled. See http://132.174.5.40 for our set up. ...Kevin O'Neil -----Original Message----- From: Deepak Jain [mailto:deepak@ai.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 2:35 PM To: Nanog@Merit. Edu Subject: Crawler Ettiquette I figured this was the best forum to post this, if anyone has suggestions where this might be better placed, please let me know. A University in our customer base has received funding to start a reasonably large spider project. It will crawl websites [search engine fashion] and save certain parts of the information it receives. This information will be made available to research institutions and other concerns. We have been asked for recommendations on what functions/procedures they can put in to be good netizens and not cause undo stress to networks out there. On the list of functions: a) Obey robots.txt files b) Allow network admins to automatically have their netblocks exempted on request c) Allow ISP's caches to sync with it. There are others, but they all revolve around a & b. C was something that seemed like a good idea, but I don't know if there is any real demand for it. Essentially, this project will have at least 1Gb/s of inbound bandwidth. Average usage is expected to be around 500mb/s for the first several months. ISPs who cache would have an advantage if they used the cache developed by this project to load their tables, but I do not know if there is an internet-wide WCCP or equivalent out there or if the improvement is worth the management overhead. Because the funding is there, this project is essentially a certainty. If there are suggestions that should be added or concerns that this raises, please let me know [privately is fine]. All input is appreciated, DJ

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FreeIP database program
by Rishi Singh 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

A few months ago, I saw a posting on NANOG for a database program that manages IP addresses, that runs off a linux box. Does anyone remember the name of that program? Searches on Google with keywords, "free IP database" doesn't return anything useful. Thanks

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Opinions on Time Warner
by Christopher J. Wolff 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Dear List; I've heard very little about Time Warner's peering and general quality of connectivity at the DS3 and above levels. Does anyone have any experiences about their overall quality and customer service? Thank you in advance. Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Broadband Laboratories http://www.bblabs.com

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Re: Anyone here from Microsoft? Hacked?
by David Diaz 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

I stand corrected. This one should be in a brain teaser book. dd At 14:33 -0500 1/24/02, Reid Fishler wrote: It would help if this URL was on MS...Look closely at it. Reid At 02:28 PM 1/24/2002 -0500, David Diaz wrote: If anyone from Microsoft is on the list. You might want to check to see if this is a hack or an old employee being funny. I did enjoy the link that sent me to McDonalds to apply for a job. Just curious, does anyone know what servers they run their content on? Is it still NT? Hope this info helps the webmaster. David http://www.microsoft.com&item%3Dq209354@hardware.no/nyheter/feb01/Q209354%2… -- David Diaz dave(a)smoton.net Smartphotons (smotons) trump dumb photons

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Re: Anyone here from Microsoft? Hacked?
by Scott Gifford 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

David Diaz <techlist(a)smoton.net> writes: > If anyone from Microsoft is on the list. You might want to check to > see if this is a hack or an old employee being funny. > > I did enjoy the link that sent me to McDonalds to apply for a job. > > Just curious, does anyone know what servers they run their content on? > Is it still NT? > > Hope this info helps the webmaster. > > David > > http://www.microsoft.com&item%3Dq209354@hardware.no/nyheter/feb01/Q209354%2… This address is actually on hardware.no. See the @ sign? It instructs the browser to connect to 'hardware.no' and give the username 'www.microsoft.com&item%3Dq209354'. It's an increasingly common trick. So no security breaches, no pissed off employees, no chances to bash NT. Ah, well. ----ScottG.

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RE: Anyone here from Microsoft? Hacked?
by Adam Herscher 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

You are requesting a page from hardware.no, not microsoft.com. -----Original Message----- From: David Diaz [mailto:techlist@smoton.net] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:29 AM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Anyone here from Microsoft? Hacked? If anyone from Microsoft is on the list. You might want to check to see if this is a hack or an old employee being funny. I did enjoy the link that sent me to McDonalds to apply for a job. Just curious, does anyone know what servers they run their content on? Is it still NT? Hope this info helps the webmaster. David http://www.microsoft.com&item%3Dq209354@hardware.no/nyheter/feb01/Q209354%20 -%20HOWTO.htm -- David Diaz dave(a)smoton.net Smartphotons (smotons) trump dumb photons

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RE: Crawler Ettiquette
by Hunter, Jonathan 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Hi, > a) Obey robots.txt files > b) Allow network admins to automatically have their > netblocks exempted on request > c) Allow ISP's caches to sync with it. I don't know if this is already on your list, but I'd also suggest "d) Rate-limiting of requests to a netblock/server". I haven't got any references immediately to hand, but I do seem to recall a crawler written in such a way that it remained "server-friendly" and would not fire off too many requests too quickly. > ISPs who cache would have an advantage if they used the cache > developed by this project to load their tables, but I do not > know if there is an internet-wide WCCP or equivalent out there > or if the improvement is worth the management overhead. It may be worth having a quick look at http://www.ircache.net/ - there is a database of known caches available through a WHOIS interface, amongst other things. HTH, Jonathan

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Crawler Ettiquette
by Deepak Jain 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

I figured this was the best forum to post this, if anyone has suggestions where this might be better placed, please let me know. A University in our customer base has received funding to start a reasonably large spider project. It will crawl websites [search engine fashion] and save certain parts of the information it receives. This information will be made available to research institutions and other concerns. We have been asked for recommendations on what functions/procedures they can put in to be good netizens and not cause undo stress to networks out there. On the list of functions: a) Obey robots.txt files b) Allow network admins to automatically have their netblocks exempted on request c) Allow ISP's caches to sync with it. There are others, but they all revolve around a & b. C was something that seemed like a good idea, but I don't know if there is any real demand for it. Essentially, this project will have at least 1Gb/s of inbound bandwidth. Average usage is expected to be around 500mb/s for the first several months. ISPs who cache would have an advantage if they used the cache developed by this project to load their tables, but I do not know if there is an internet-wide WCCP or equivalent out there or if the improvement is worth the management overhead. Because the funding is there, this project is essentially a certainty. If there are suggestions that should be added or concerns that this raises, please let me know [privately is fine]. All input is appreciated, DJ

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