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Big meetings should never be held at noon!
by Pawlukiewicz Jane 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

Hi, We ran out of time. Anyway, question for the best network operators in America, and beyond. Is there a way to download _part_ of a BGP table from a router? Can I use something like logic, sql to download just a piece, a specific piece of the BGP table? I can't believe this is impossible... Thanks for any help on this, Jane

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LINX problem ?
by Peter Galbavy 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

Not as well connected as I once was and so I can only try from a couple of upstreams, but I have lost all LINX transit traffic... www.linx.net is also failing - which is not a good sign. Anyone know different or better ? Peter

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Re: ARIN IP allocation questionn
by Ralph Doncaster 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

There's lots of old C's that aren't being announced any more. You might be able to find one that someone can lend you to use. Strangley a search for "portable class C" on ebay didn't find anything though... Ralph Doncaster principal, IStop.com

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How important is the PSTN
by Pawlukiewicz Jane 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

Hi all, Thanks so much for all the great answers. (Could everyone please stop telling me that im = instant messaging). I knew I should've never gotten out of bed this morning. Anyway, 75% of the respondents said the phone is critical. 25% said some form of IM is critical. Just in case anyone was curious. Is it me or is it very quiet in here today? Jane

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Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN
by Rizzo Frank 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

Chris, By "IM" I assume you're referring to Instant Messaging as an ideal, not any particular protocol or vendor implementation. Which begs the question, is "IM" is a risk because Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO a self-proclaimed tier 1 provider, says so, or because you have facts to prove it, which you neglected to post? IRC and AIM have been scrutinized pretty heavily and I can't think of any inherent flaws (other than lack of out-of-box for support for encryption... but is the PSTN really any more secure?). Just buggy clients under-educated users opt to install. A non-trival amount of providers here use AIM/IRC to help facilitate inter- and intra-NOC communication, even if they won't readily admit to it. Are you blocking "peer-to-peer file sharnig programs" because of security risks, or because your employeees are wasting your already-scarce capacity to Global Crossing downloading the new Barry Manilow album? Frank Rizzo -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] Jane, This brings up a good point about IM. IMHO, IM is a security risk and I am establishing a company standard where users behind the firewall are prohibited from using IM, IRC, and peer-to-peer file sharing programs. My opinion is that these types of programs contribute more to lack of productivity than to real problem solving. So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve a substantial network support purpose or are they more of a distraction, allowing staff to communicate with friends, relatives, drifters, interlopers on company time? Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Broadband Laboratories http://www.bblabs.com From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Pawlukiewicz Jane Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:06 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: How important is the PSTN Hi all, Thanks so much for all the great answers. (Could everyone please stop telling me that im = instant messaging). I knew I should've never gotten out of bed this morning. Anyway, 75% of the respondents said the phone is critical. 25% said some form of IM is critical. Just in case anyone was curious. Is it me or is it very quiet in here today? Jane

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Re: Fwd: WorldCom Investor News: WorldCom Announces IntentiontoRestate 2001 and First Quarter 2002 Financial Statements
by Rizzo Frank 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

> I am always confused. We know all too well. > No, I think the source of my confusion is RoadRunner. Its all over their > website, and that's a AT&T name. isn't it? at least it was... No Jane, the source of confusion is you mistook this list for people who give a hoot. This information could have been gleaned from Google in five seconds. If you feel the need to blabber endlessly, get yourself a diary or livejournal account. Frank Rizzo

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Bet on with my boss
by Rizzo Frank 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

Hello Jane, My boss and I had a bet you'd post to NANOG at least five times today without contributing anything worthwhile. Thanks to you, I'm $20 richer. You can ignore me if you want. That's okay. Frank

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Sprint peering policy
by Ralph Doncaster 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

While many other tier-1's have publicly listed their peering policies, I've never seen anything for 1239. Not that I'd stand a chance, but does anyone know what their peering requirements are? Ralph Doncaster principal, IStop.com

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Re: How low can Worldcom stock go?
by Scott Weeks 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

Vivien: Don't get me started on what C&W did to the Exodus backbone. OK, I won't EVEN get started on what C&W did to Digital Island... :( :( :( (five years of heart-n-soul gone) blitz: IF you got a job, be thankful.. this isn't over yet. randy: some of the motivation is large players very consciously trying randy: to squeeze out smaller or competitive players in the chaos of randy: all the other noise. <B><U> yes, yes, YES!!! </U></B> dammit... scott ps. That's not html email. I use pine.

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ARIN IP allocation policy, ip vs. name website hosting
by matthew zeier 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

I recall reading that ARIN was preferring the use of hostname based virtual websites over IP based, however I can't find that wording on ARIN's site. Anyone have points to it? -- matthew zeier - "In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them." - Johann von Neumann

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