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Quagga on Xen or VMWare etc
by David Curran 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Can anyone provide direction (anecdotal or otherwise) on the use of Quagga in a virtual environment for route servers? Thanks

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Verizon outage between Baltimore and Washington
by Steven Fischer 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Can someone on the list shed some more light on this? Verizon reports the 9 linear oc-48s are impacting 173 ds3s, 3 oc3cs, and 14 oc12cs. There is 1 unprotected oc192c down for TOT-A. OTDR readings from Baltimore place the break at 36.4 miles towards Washington. Additional OTDR readings from Laurel toward Washington indicate cut at 16.25 miles. Any additional info would be appreciated. -- To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy

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Re: IPv6 routing /48s
by trejrco＠gmail.com 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Yeah, that's part of why it isn't feasible :) Also - a more generalized black-hole detection type mechanism (to also catch PMTUD failures, etc) would be mighty useful ... /TJ ------Original Message------ From: Nathan Ward To: nanog list Subject: Re: IPv6 routing /48s Sent: Nov 19, 2008 15:34 On 20/11/2008, at 10:11 AM, trejrco(a)gmail.com wrote: > Ah yes, public-but-not-external IPv4 addresses ... I wish a stern > note saying don't do that was feasible ... What people do with their addresses is their business. The problem here is XPSP2/Vista assuming that non-RFC1918 = unfiltered/ unNATed for the purposes of 6to4. Well, deeper problem is that they're using 6to4 on an end host I suppose - it's supposed to be used on routers. I was going to write up a qualification mechanism for it so it could detect if 6to4 was OK or not, but code is already out there on umpteen million PCs that aren't going to do their patches. I still plan to.. hopefully I'll get around to it when I feel a bit less jaded :-) -- Nathan Ward Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Re: Verizon outage between Baltimore and Washington
by Justin M. Streiner 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Steven Fischer wrote: > looks like a single break....Baltimore is about 36.4 miles north of > Washington, and Laurel is about 16.25 miles north of Washington, with > Baltimore being about 20 miles north of Laurel. All this makes sense. The > part that doesn't really make sense is that our headquarters in right > smack-dab along this run in Columbia, MD (about 5-7 miles north of Laruel), > and has been unaffected...but a remote office in Hagerstown, about 50-60 > miles west, north-west of here, is down hard. The circuit between you and your remote office could be DACS'd across several SONET rings between point A and B and if the cut took out one of those rings then you'd lose your circuit. Also, keep in mind that carriers love to call SONET rings redundant even when both the working and protect sides of it ride in the same conduit, or hell, even in the same buffer. That makes them a little more susceptible to backhoe fade. There are other possibilities as well, such as the protect side of the ring being down for maintenance when something hits the working side, the carrier screws up a re-groom, etc... jms

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New Internet study released
by Irwin.Lazar＠nemertes.com 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Hi All, Nemertes Research released a study on Internet Infrastructure this morning, this is an update to our 2007 study looking at Internet demand vs. growth of available bandwidth. This year's update also includes an examination of routing/addressing trends, IPv6 adoption, and potential of other solutions such as LISP and application-based addressing. It's freely available on our web site: http://www.nemertes.com/internet_interrupted_why_architectural_limitations_… thanks, irwin

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Adobe contact
by Jeff Calvert 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Hello, Could someone from Adobe (AS1313) please contact me off list? I'm having some routing issues getting packets back from your network. Thanks, Jeff Calvert jeff(a)jeffcalvert.com jcalvert(a)cyrusone.com 713-821-1260 opt 2 (NOC)

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Router Choice
by Raymond Macharia 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

Hello fellow nanogers, I am a long time user of Cisco gear and currently evaluating an alternative for my network expansion. currently the one that looks like it will be able to do the job iare Alcatel-Lucent 7710/7750 service routers. I am looking for real life experience of those who have used it and what I may need to watch out for (if anything) I have seen in some of their documentation features like Non-stop Services (NSS) and Non-stop Routing (NSR). are these features real world deployable. oh, just to add I want to use the routers as P routers in my IP/MPLS core Regards -- Raymond Macharia

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hotmail contact?
by Jason LeBlanc 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

Having a mail issue looking for hotmail contact. Thanks, Jason

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ADMIN: List FAQ/Monthly Post.
by NANOG Mail List Committee 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

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Clueful FIDO contacts
by Robin Rodriguez 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

It is not strictly netops but I am hoping someone in nanog-land can assist me. I am receiving bad callerID information (I get the BTN) from FIDO or FIDO's upstream. My SIP providers claim they are receiving the bad callerID from their upstreams. Though everyone I am a customer of agrees that it isn't their problem and that it's FIDO's they are all unwilling or unable to assist me in contacting FIDO. If anyone has a contact or a NOC number that you could contact me off-list i would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Robin -- Robin D. Rodriguez Systems Engineer Ifbyphone, Inc. Phone: (866) 250-1663 Fax: (847) 676-6553 rrodriguez(a)ifbyphone.com http://www.ifbyphone.com

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