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Recommend DSLAM for Apartment Bldg
by Lorell Hathcock 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

All: I've got access to the copper pairs in an apartment building of approximately 800 units. I'd like to get a modest, functional, scalable, affordable DSLAM. My WAN connection is an ethernet handoff. I've been looking at the Adtran 1100F and 1200F with 1148 modules. http://www.adtran.com/web/page/portal/Adtran/group/3451 http://www.adtran.com/web/page/portal/Adtran/group/3453 Once I reach the top capacity of these (4 x 48 = 192) , I could just start again with another 1100 or 1200 shelf and go on up from there. Any recommendations? Also, can anyone recommend an outsourced tech support group that speaks Korean and Chinese? Sincerely, Lorell Hathcock OfficeConnect.net | 832-665-3400 x101 (o) | 713-992-2343 (f) | lorell(a)officeconnect.net Texas State Security Contractor License | ONSSI Certified Channel Partner Axis Communications Channel Partner | BICSI Corporate Member Leviton Authorized Installer

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Juniper M120 Alternatives
by Gary Mackenzie 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Having slightly lost track of what everybody is using for peering routers these days, what is the consensus about the best alternative to Juniper M series routers? I'm asking as the prices to upgrade to 10Gbit capable Juniper units (ie. an M120) seem prohibitively high so I'm looking to get a feel for the alternatives. The other obvious platform would appear to be a Cisco XR 12404 (or similar depending on line card requirements) but is anything else in common use as a peering platform? Cheers for any input. Rgds Gary

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Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation
by Gadi Evron 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation. The group holds top experts on internet technology, critical infrastructure, and internet governance, from around the globe. Together, we discuss definitions, problems, challenges and solutions in securing and assuring the reliability of the global internet infrastructure, which is critical infrastructure for a growing number of nations, corporations and indeed, individuals -- world wide. The group started as a closed and private forum, to discuss technical and operational risks, as other venues limited discussion of critical internet resources to politically charged subjects such ascontrol of ICANN and ARIN, thus overshadowing other important aspects. As of November 18th 2009, the list is open for public access, to advance public awareness of the issues, and bring new talent on board. The group is hosted by the ISOTF, but is governed by members. Note: SCADA, network operations, and other related issues should be discussed in the appropriate forums, elsewhere. This group deals with the internet. To subscribe: http://isotf.org/mailman/listinfo/cii Gadi Evron for ISOTF-CII-WG.

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Policy News
by Jerry Dixon 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

If you can make it they can tax it :/ Article in today's Wall Street Journal: "WASHINGTON -- Federal regulators are considering whether the government should take greater control of the Internet and ask consumers to pay higher phone charges in order to provide all Americans with cheaper access to broadband Internet service. The Federal Communications Commission Wednesday will lay out the case for expanding broadband Internet service, outlining current obstacles to making it widely available. The agency is considering whether to force Internet providers to share their networks with rivals and raise fees charged on consumer phone bills to pay for the broader access." Schatz, A. *Feds mull rules, fees to spur net access - WSJ.com.* Retrieved 11/18/2009, 2009, from http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125850641299752981.html -Jerry -- jerry(a)jdixon.com

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AT&T BGP Setup
by Shon Elliott 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Hey everyone. I didn't really want to ask this out here, but wasn't sure who else I could ask, but does anyone here have BGP setup with AT&T as well as to other providers? Could you give me a phone number for a rep? Our AT&T reps are telling us they won't allow us to announce IP we get from AT&T and our own IP out our other connections, and vice versa where we cannot announce our IP address and IP addresses we have from AT&T out to through their circuit via like an Optiman setup. So basically, if you have a rep that some answers, could you forward me their phone number off-list? Thanks! -S

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Re: Policy News
by Chris Meidinger 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

On 18.11.2009, at 20:08, Jeff Saxe wrote: > I don't think Steve meant a way to stop the CPU / process thread of retrieving email if it is hung talking to an email server, although thank you for that. I believe Steve meant "I want to keep reading the NANOG mailing list in general, but this particular message thread has zero interest to me, so as any new emails come in that are replies to replies to replies to this thread, just suppress them so I don't have to even hit Delete.". Something like that. Ah, I thought you meant threads were blocking Mail.app from processing messages in other mailboxes. I subscribe to several imap boxes with over half a million messages in them, so I use activity monitor to kill sync all the time. Mail.app seems to not process anything else on the same account as long as it's busy processing a subscription for a particular mailbox, which can take forever in some cases. As to the actual question, I use Mail.app in threaded mode anyway. When I'm not interested in a thread, I just let it collect messages and mark it as read every couple of days. I'm not aware of any way to tell Mail.app to quit showing messages from a particular thread. Chris

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Layer 2 vs. Layer 3 to TOR
by Raj Singh 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Guys, I am wondering how many of you are doing layer 3 to top of rack switches and what the pros and cons are. Also, if you are doing layer 3 to top of rack do you guys have any links to published white papers on it? Thanks, Raj Singh

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SBC/AT&T Contact
by Stuart Kirk 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Is anybody experiencing any issues with customer traffic originating from either of these carriers? If anybody from SBC or AT&T can contact me off-list I would appreciate it. Thank you. --Stuart

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APNIC to issue from 175 /8 and 182 /8 soon
by brwatters＠absfoc.com 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

The following is a new meeting request: Subject: APNIC to issue from 175 /8 and 182 /8 soon Organizer: "Brian R. Watters" <brwatters(a)absfoc.com> Time: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 11:00:00 AM - 12:00:00 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Invitees: "Leslie Nobile" <leslien(a)arin.net>; "nanog" <nanog(a)nanog.org> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Forwarding at the request of APNIC... From: Secretariat <apnic-no-reply(a)apnic.net> Reply-To: "secretariat(a)apnic.net" <secretariat(a)apnic.net>, Secretariat <apnic-no-reply(a)apnic.net> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:31:42 -0500 To: APNIC-announce <apnic-announce(a)apnic.net> Subject: [Apnic-announce] APNIC to make allocations from 175/8 and 182/8 soon _______________________________________________________________________ APNIC to make allocations from 175/8 and 182/8 soon _______________________________________________________________________ Dear colleagues, In August 2009, APNIC received two IPv4 address blocks from IANA. These were: - 175/8 - 182/8 Reachability and routability testing is now complete and exceeds 96% for all prefixes. APNIC will soon be allocating from these prefixes. Please update your routing filters and network configurations accordingly. Please also double-check and release any blacklisted IP addresses from the above ranges, as they now represent fresh /8 blocks. Thank you for your cooperation. If you have any questions, please contact the APNIC helpdesk: helpdesk(a)apnic.net Sincerely, -- APNIC Helpdesk helpdesk(a)apnic.net Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3188 PO Box 2131 Milton, QLD 4064 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199 Level 1, 33 Park Road, Milton, QLD http://www.apnic.net ________________________________________________________________________ * Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary. _______________________________________________ Apnic-announce mailing list Apnic-announce(a)lists.apnic.net http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-announce

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What happened to Quick Eagle?
by Peter Hicks 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

All, I have a Quick Eagle DL087E here, but Quick Eagle's website has fallen off the planet: pwh@angel:~$ host -t any www.quickeagle.com Host www.quickeagle.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Can anyone help me out with a firmware update and/or PDF manuals? It's been a little while since I had to use one of these. Cheers Peter

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