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"Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
by andrew.wallace 21 Feb '10

21 Feb '10

US carried out "Cyber Shockwave" - an exercise by non-government actors who have close relations to the government past. The results will be aired on CNN this weekend. Intelligence suggests the scenario was not standard and that a crash in the smart phone network was used as a concept of how US National Security *could* be compromised in 2011. CNN had exclusive television access to the national security cyber “war game” scenario. The simulated attack took place on Tuesday and was host by members of The Bipartisan Policy Center and will debut on Saturday, Feb. 20 and Sunday, Feb. 21 at 8pm, 11pm and 2am ET on CNN. I hope the Nanog community can tune in or watch later on catch up services and give feedback on your thoughts. Kind regards, Andrew

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centeralized server management solutions
by Mehmet Akcin 21 Feb '10

21 Feb '10

...so few months ago I was wondering which vendor to pick that has the best global delivery experience and deliver quality product.. after few weeks of research decided to go with Dell. There are few options for centralized management such as pushing images, backing up, restoring/re-installing servers for Dell servers using DRAC cards. KACE which recently was bought by dell is one option, Dell OpenManage seems another option with less options available. What are your thoughts / suggestions on centralized management solutions for Dell servers with DRAC cards?. Few things to keep in mind. Centralized solution and server wont be on the same network , but each will have internet access Drac cards come with Compact Flash cards Bandwidth may not be quite fast and latency might be higher when connecting to the centralized solution. Monitoring can be apart from the server maintenance solution as I already primarily use cacti/nagios/IMapper. appreciate help on this. Mehmet

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CNN LIVE stream?
by andrew.wallace 21 Feb '10

21 Feb '10

I am from the UK and don't know how to watch CNN Cyber Shockwave via an internet live stream. The programme starts 8PM ET, 1AM UK. What do I do? Andrew

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Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN
by charles＠knownelement.com 21 Feb '10

21 Feb '10

Alright can someone moderate this thread and shut it down please? ------Original Message------ From: Tomas L. Byrnes To: andrew.wallace To: Randy Bush Cc: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: RE: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN Sent: Feb 20, 2010 7:49 PM Right, because GCHQ doesn't/hasn't/never would do such a thing... At least the US has a written constitution and the concept of the people being sovereign. I'll take that over trusting "Her Majesty's..." whatever. But then again, I'm Irish, so I have a bit more direct personal and familial experience of the darker side of British "civilization". (EG: While detention without trial is relatively NEW in the US, it's been a fact of life in the UK for most of its history). > -----Original Message----- > From: andrew.wallace [mailto:andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 2:13 PM > To: Randy Bush > Cc: nanog(a)nanog.org > Subject: Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN > > --- On Sat, 20/2/10, Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com> wrote: > > > From: Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com> > > Subject: Re: "Cyber Shockwave" on CNN > > To: "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace(a)rocketmail.com> > > Cc: nanog(a)nanog.org > > Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 21:58 > > > It looks like this demo is > > > > a bunch of sick press and sick ex-gov wishtheycouldbeagains > > trying to > > get as much mindshare as they can. and you're helping > > them. > > > > randy > > > > I refuse to let you say I am helping them -- I am from UK, I don't > agree with them wanting to allow The NSA to take over private sector > networks or citizens smart phones 'in an emergency'. > > Andrew > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Slightly OT. Good IMAP search tool?
by Mike Lyon 21 Feb '10

21 Feb '10

Howdy Folks, What are people using these days to suck down an IMAP account, search it and then export the search results? Any suggestions. Cheers, Mike

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CNN Cyber Shockwave only available in US
by andrew.wallace 21 Feb '10

21 Feb '10

It is not being broadcast world wide... Provide links. Andrew

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Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 25, Issue 90
by Mehmet Akcin 20 Feb '10

20 Feb '10

Actually thanks, I just realized that after I hit send... It's for CentOS Mehmet On Feb 20, 2010, at 3:47 PM, nanog-request(a)nanog.org wrote: > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:35:41 -0500 > From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: centeralized server management solutions > To: nanog(a)nanog.org > Message-ID: <20100220213541.GB5426(a)angus.ind.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 01:29:38PM -0600, Mehmet Akcin wrote: >> Centralized solution and server wont be on the same network , but each will have internet access >> Drac cards come with Compact Flash cards >> Bandwidth may not be quite fast and latency might be higher when connecting to the centralized solution. >> Monitoring can be apart from the server maintenance solution as I already primarily use cacti/nagios/IMapper. > > You didn't specify what OS'es you deploy, but for Linux/Red Hat-like > systems: PXE boot, Kickstart [1], Puppet [2], Bacula [3]. > PXE/Kickstart/Puppet can be managed with Cobbler [4]. Foreman [5] > is an alternative for managing Puppet hosts. > > [1] http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-5-manual/Installation_Gu… > > [2] http://reductivelabs.com/products/puppet/ > > [3] http://www.bacula.org/en/ > > [4] https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/ > > [5] http://theforeman.org/

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Re: Slightly OT. Good IMAP search tool?
by Dan White 20 Feb '10

20 Feb '10

On 20/02/10 12:15 -0800, Mike Lyon wrote: >On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Dan White <dwhite(a)olp.net> wrote: >> On 20/02/10 11:56 -0800, Mike Lyon wrote: >> >>> Howdy Folks, >>> >>> What are people using these days to suck down an IMAP account, search it >>> and >>> then export the search results? Any suggestions. >>> >> >> I don't know your specific need, but it is usually far more efficient (to >> what degree depends on the IMAP server) to perform your searches via the >> IMAP SEARCH command and let the server feed you the appropriate emails >> containing the keyword(s) you're searching for. > > That would be what I am looking for :) > > Recommend any good tools for that? IMAP Webmail clients (like squirrelmail) have build in server side searching. Many IMAP clients do as well. The Perl imap module should be verify flexible in performing the search and letting you manipulate the results programmatically. You could also do it via telnet/nc and script the search and fetch commands via shell script. See RFC 3501. -- Dan White

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Re: Spamhaus...
by Roger Marquis 20 Feb '10

20 Feb '10

William Herrin wrote: > Indeed, and the ones who are more than minimally competent have > considered the protocol as a whole and come to understand that at a > technical level the "reject don't bounce" theory has more holes in it > than you can shake a stick at. No way. You are kidding aren't you Bill? Honestly, I have not encountered a sysadmin who allows their company's mailexchangers to send backscatter in close to 8 years (outside of non-technical SMBs who also have numerous other systems and network issues, and one university hamstringed by vendor lock-in). The really issue here IMO is the RFC process. Given how badly the implementation of IPv6 is coming along it really should not surprise anyone that SMTP RFCs are no less dated and no less out of sync with real world conditions. Deja vu X.400. Roger Marquis

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Re: Spamhaus...
by Marc Powell 20 Feb '10

20 Feb '10

I don't know WTH is up with your large Cc: list but I've removed it to keep the conversation here, where it started. More below -- On Feb 19, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Dean Anderson wrote: > So you should think that its ok for blacklists to charge money for > things they got for free? In the case of Spamhaus, yes, I find it acceptable to pay them for the service they are providing me because I find it very useful, and with the understanding that they are non-profit, have costs related to providing the service and provide a free service for people with less volume than me. With regards to other lists, I would say that it depends on infrastructure costs they incur to provide that service, regardless of whether the content is community provided or not. The information may have been obtained freely but there are costs to disseminate it. Do you think that they should absorb all the costs of providing it as a free service? -- Marc

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