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RE: NANOG Digest, Vol 26, Issue 50
by Ralph Wallace 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

>Message: 13 >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:18:35 -0800 >From: Seth Mattinen <sethm(a)rollernet.us> >Subject: Re: IPv6 enabled carriers? >To: nanog(a)nanog.org >Message-ID: <4B97F08B.2070500(a)rollernet.us> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >On 3/10/10 11:00 AM, Charles Mills wrote: >> Does anyone have a list of carriers who are IPv6 capable today? >> >> I would assume this would be rolled out in larger cities first but >> anything outside of "testbed environments" and "trials" as in >> Comcast's recent announcement seems to be all that is available. >> >> I'm being tasked with coming up with an IPv6 migration plan for a data center. >> >> Mostly interested in if ATT, Level3, GLBX, Saavis, Verizon Business >> and Qwest are capable as those are the typical ones I deal with. >> >Ones I have personal experience with: >GLBX - yes >SAVVIS - no >VZB - yes, good luck >ATT - "Beginning in 1Q2010 MIS will provide the ability to support IPv6 >in a dual stack mode." >When I disconnected my SAVVIS circuit in November 2009 I explicitly told >them IPv6 was a deciding factor. Not all of Verizon's pops are IPv6 >enabled, which may cause you trouble ordering it. It's put me in month >11 of trying to turn up a dual-stack circuit because they refuse to read >the order and keep putting it in Sacramento (v4 only) when it needs to >go to San Jose (dual-stack). Sprint wasn't on your list, but they are >rolling out native IPv6 support on all of 1239. I've been using their >6175 testbed since 2005. >~Seth ------------------------------ Here's what I know: ATT - Yes; http://www.corp.att.com/gov/solution/network_services/data_nw/ipv6/ Level3 - Yes; http://www.level3.com/downloads/IPv6_Brochure.pdf GLBX (If we're talking Global Crossing) - Yes (I talked with them right after they came out of bankruptcy; look at Wikipedia) http://www.globalcrossing.com/ipkc/ipkc_ipv6.aspx Saavis - Don't know; claim was made in 2006 they would be ready in 2008 (based on the above from Seth, they probably blew it off) Verizon Business - Yes; LTE roll out is coming to "officially" open the v6 doors mandating v6 support for all connections and just "enabling" v4 connections; Verizon Federal has supported (via MCI) the DoD DREN for years, at least since 2005. Qwest - Yes; (I'm moderating an IPv6 panel with Owen Delong from HE and Qwest in April) Ones you didn't ask about, but are significant v6 players Sprint - Yes; Absolutely (Colleagues of mine helped them with some of their IPv6 security issues in 2008) NTT - Absolutely yes (Check out the Google IPv6 Implementer's conference and Rocky Mountain IPv6 Summit presentations from last year's conferences) Cheers, Ralph

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RE: IPv6 enabled carriers?
by Routing Bits 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

It looks like Comcast offers IPv6 today. Check the below link out to see if your data center is near any of their POP's. I believe Comcast's trials are for their Docsis products. http://www.comcast.com/dedicatedinternet/default.html

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Re: CRS-3
by Gregory Hicks 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

> Subject: Re: CRS-3 > From: David Conrad <drc(a)virtualized.org> > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:06:39 -0800 > > On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > >> Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost? > > Admittedly, my information on these topics comes from NPR these days. :-) > > > > They said it costs ~US$90k, and that AT&T was in trails. > > Somehow, I'm skeptical (not of the trials, but $90k for a fully > configured CRS-3), but if it was on NPR it must be true... :-) The press release at http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html states that the pricing for the CRS-3 STARTS AT $90K...

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MPLS VLAN service
by James Jones 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

I am looking for MPLS L2 VPN that will let give a ethernet port in springfield, MA @ one federal TO Wellington, NZ @ AT&T House. Can anyone here do this? Also can you provide me with some ball park pricing. Please reply off list. -- James Jones +1-413-667-9199 james(a)freedomnet.co.nz

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Cisco XR 12000 Series Router demonstration has been delayed...
by Jonathan Bayles 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

<parody> The issue occurred during preventative maintenance of one of our data centers when a human error caused an electrical overload on the systems. This caused Cisco.com and other applications to go down. Because of the severity of the overload, the redundancy measures in some of the applications and power systems were impacted as well, though the system did shut down as designed to protect the people and the equipment. As a result, no data were lost and no one was injured. Cisco has plans already in process to add additional redundancies to increase the resilience of these systems. </parody>

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Re: T1 aggregation and data center gateways
by Tim Franklin 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

> Isn't that just CYA? Thank the lawyers and "corporate compliance > offices" and professional whiners. The obvious answer is that if your corporate email policy makes you look like an idiot, post to mailing lists from a personal email address that doesn't make you look like an idiot. This also spares the list from "out-of-office" messages from Exchange servers too stupid to refrain from sending such messages to mailing lists. Regards, Tim.

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T1 aggregation and data center gateways
by Tim Sanderson 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Currently have T1 aggregation on some Cisco 7206VXR routers. Core switches and data center gateways on a couple of Cisco 6509's. Looking for a model that could collapse both functions into just two devices, one being for hardware redundancy. Any recommendations on a good L3 switch that is also a good T1 aggregation device? Anyone have any experience with the newer Cisco stuff like the ASR 1000/7600/CRS-1? Tim Sanderson ________________________________ THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. Thank you.

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Policies from experience
by Djamel Sadok 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Hi everyone, I am curious regarding the use of "policies", rules or goals to manage a network at the three levels: business, traffic engineering and routing. I have these questions: 1) What examples of policies could be enforced at each level? (the simplest case being that of routing policies using EGP that I can think of)? 2) Could there be a clear cut in terms of policies between these three levels: business, routing and TE ? 3) anyone using the Routing Policy Specification Language (RPSL) ? Thank you for taking the time. Djamel Sadok

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RE: CRS-3
by David Hubbard 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

From: Brian Feeny [mailto:bfeeny@mac.com] > > So who is going to be the first to deploy these? > > http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html > > > - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second > - Stream every motion picture ever created in less than four minutes > > If nothing else you gotta love the Cisco Marketing machine! > > Brian The article about this in the tech section on CNN already has comments in it like "Oh, well Cisco owns Linksys and I have a Linksys router so will my ISP be updating me to the CRS-3 so I can download at those speeds?" LOL

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Re: CRS-3
by deleskie＠gmail.com 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

What happened to CRS-2? :) ------Original Message------ From: Robert Enger - NANOG To: David Hubbard Cc: nanog(a)nanog.org Subject: Re: CRS-3 Sent: Mar 9, 2010 4:20 PM Forget Linksys: Didn't Peter Lothberg's mom have a CRS1 in her basement already? :-) She said it was great for drying her clothes. If she gets the CRS-3, will she be able to dry her clothes even faster? On 3/9/2010 11:54 AM, David Hubbard wrote: > > The article about this in the tech section on CNN > already has comments in it like "Oh, well Cisco > owns Linksys and I have a Linksys router so will > my ISP be updating me to the CRS-3 so I can > download at those speeds?" LOL > > > On 3/9/2010 11:54 AM, David Hubbard wrote: > From: Brian Feeny [mailto:bfeeny@mac.com] >> So who is going to be the first to deploy these? >> >> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html >> >> >> - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second >> - Stream every motion picture ever created in less than four minutes >> >> If nothing else you gotta love the Cisco Marketing machine! >> >> Brian > The article about this in the tech section on CNN > already has comments in it like "Oh, well Cisco > owns Linksys and I have a Linksys router so will > my ISP be updating me to the CRS-3 so I can > download at those speeds?" LOL > > > Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network

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