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J.D. Falk has passed on
by Fred Heutte 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

A wonderful colleague, friend, and "leading purveyor of industry counter-rhetoric solutions." http://www.maawg.org/page/memorial-jd-falk http://www.cauce.org/2011/11/jdfalk.html http://www.facebook.com/jdfalk regards, fh ----------- Pure J.D. :) "Whether you are acting as a Mailbox Provider or a Feedback Consumer, Complaint Feedback processing can be complex and scary -- or, with some intelligence and automation, simple and easy. In either case, it is an important and necessary tool for detecting messaging abuse and ensuring End User satisfaction." http://www.rfc-editor.org/?rfc/pdfrfc/rfc6449.txt.pdf

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Fwd: Welcome to the "Marketing" mailing list
by Owen DeLong 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

Um, Can someone explain this one to me? 1. Why was such a list created? 2. Why was I automatically subscribed to it? 3. Why was this done without notice to the community? Thanks, Owen Begin forwarded message: > From: marketing-request(a)nanog.org > Date: November 17, 2011 7:17:00 AM PST > To: owen(a)delong.com > Subject: Welcome to the "Marketing" mailing list > > Welcome to the Marketing(a)nanog.org mailing list! > > To post to this list, send your message to: > > marketing(a)nanog.org > > General information about the mailing list is at: > > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > > If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to > or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your > subscription page at: > > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/options/marketing/owen%40delong.com

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economic value of low AS numbers
by Dave Hart 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

AS path geeks: At the risk of invoking ire and eliciting comparisons to the widely-reviled and growing practice of selling IPv4 addresses, I'm wondering if anyone has sold legacy AS numbers for quick cash. For example, NASA has AS23 among others, and does not use 23. Could they help fund a Mars mission study or two by offering it to the highest bidder? Or would they be lucky to top the $500 ARIN charges for a 32-bit ASN? How about AS1? Level3 uses a different AS. There's one nonpaying customer advertised from AS1, and despite their historical involvement creating the first predecessor of the internet, I bet DoD Network Information Center would be willing to use a different AS for the single prefix advertised by 1 now, if Level3 asked them nicely. Is Level3 leaving money on the table? I looked a bit for any transfer or change policy that might apply without success. Given these are legacy assignments, I have a feeling the POC could be changed without merger or acquisition, and I bet the AS descriptive name could be as well. I know I'd personally find a low AS number worth a pretty penny, if I could find a willing seller. I recognize there's no practical shortage of AS numbers. BGP's preference for low AS numbers doesn't come into play much. On the other hand, a low AS number can't hurt at the human level when negotiating peering or attracting customers. Cheers, Dave Hart

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Bandwidth Upgrade
by Bielawa, Daniel Walter 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

Greetings, My team is in the process of putting some documentation together to justify a bandwidth upgrade. I am asking if you would be willing to reply back to me, with how you decide that it is time to upgrade your bandwidth. On-line or off-line reply's will be acceptable. Thank You Daniel Bielawa Network Engineer Liberty University Network Services (434)592-7987 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY 40 Years of Training Champions for Christ: 1971-2011

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CDN locations for US eyeball networks
by John Bell 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

Hello NANOGers. I am in the process of scouting for CDN node locations for content delivery to end users in the US. Currently looking at Seattle, Los Angeles, Dallas, Chicago, Miami and New York. Would much appreciate any recommendations, best practices or advice on how/where to get good connectivity to the large eyeball networks. Being small fish, connectivity will be based on the transit I can score or in general connectivity that DCs/server providers offer in the locations chosen. John

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Re: economic value of low AS numbers
by Owen DeLong 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

>> >> Updates are processed through the standard ARIN-online process >> like updates to any other number resources. If you want additional >> assistance on that, I suggest contacting the registration services >> help desk by phone (703-227-0660) or email (hostmaster(a)arin.net) > > I was looking for policy, not actually attempting to change > registration information for a specific AS, and I think you've > provided it. > It is a common misconception that these contact points are only for making changes. The folks at ARIN are actually quite helpful in answering policy questions and helping folks navigate or understand the various ARIN processes. My policy information may not be complete and may or may not address your specific needs. The ARIN staff is a much more authoritative source. Owen

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OT -- seeking a knowledgable AS 701 technical contact.
by Robert Bonomi 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

Apologies for the noise, but I have been absolutely unable -- despite literally *hours* of trying --to contact anyone at _any_ of the published Verizon Business phone numbers who has any comprehension of what I am talking about -- to wit: "I am looking for someone with _any_ awareness/knowledge of Verizon Business's public-access anonymous FTP server, with the hostname 'ftp.uu.net'." The published Verizon Business technical contact number -- both in 'whois' for uu.net, and Jared's NOC contact list is only the 'ticket center', and won't open a ticket for someone who is not Verizon customer. "Customer service" doesn't know what 'ftp' is, and vacillates between thinking it is a circuit problem, or that I am having a problem with -my- domain. Call-transfer to 'technical support' was answered by someone handling 'delinquent payments'. Another transfer attempt ended up on somebody's cell phone.

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Re: economic value of low AS numbers
by Owen DeLong 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

On Nov 17, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Dave Hart wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 17:32, Owen DeLong <owen(a)delong.com> wrote: >> ARIN policy does not currently support the transfer of AS numbers in >> this manner. IMHO, it shouldn't, but, there is a policy proposal to >> do so. I suggest that anyone interested in this subject review the >> proposal and join the discussion on arin-ppml. >> >> Owen >> (Speaking only for myself and not on behalf of the ARIN AC) > > Thanks. My policy search was focused on arin.net, but I didn't find > what you apparently know. In particular, there's no reference to > transfer of AS numbers in the NRPM, nor could I find any policy or > procedure regarding updating POC or any other information associated > with an AS registration. Do keep in mind I was referring specifically > to legacy AS numbers, where it is not clear to me ARIN policy would > control, particularly in the case of a merger or acquisition. > ARIN is the successor registry to the prior registries that distributed AS Numbers, so, I believe that they are subject to ARIN policy. I realize there are others that have different opinions, but I really don't want to engage in that debate here. ARIN policy currently does not provide for transfer of AS numbers other than through NRPM 8.2 for merger/acquisition. Martin Hannigan proposed the following: http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-September/023136.html which is on the AC docket as Proposal 158. Personally, I do not favor this proposal. I don't think there is good reason to allow the transfer of ASNs and I think that allowing transfers of IPv6 numbers is a really bad idea. However, anyone with an interest in this proposal, whether in favor or opposed should bring their opinion to arin-ppml. > Would you refer me to the current ARIN policy regarding transfers of > or updates to ASN registrations? > Updates are processed through the standard ARIN-online process like updates to any other number resources. If you want additional assistance on that, I suggest contacting the registration services help desk by phone (703-227-0660) or email (hostmaster(a)arin.net) Owen

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Comcast DNS Contact?
by Steve Polyack 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

Could a Comcast DNS admin please contact me off-list? We're seeing lots of queries from local Comcast resolvers for a domain which we haven't hosted in nearly a year. Thanks, Steve

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IP Options
by harbor235 17 Nov '11

17 Nov '11

Is it just me or has there been an increase in packets with IP options set hitting our front door? There are ways to mitigate e.g. IP options selective discard, and ACL IP options support. ACL entries on the edge appear to be the best way identify and log the source. IP options selective discard drops packets silently so from my view they are not as effective. Is anyone doing anything else to identify and mitigate? I have been seeing hits on our firewalls but would rather take care of it at our edge with little or no impact. Mike

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