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Trivium
by Larry Sheldon 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57598978-93/google-outage-reportedly-cause… "How big is the Internet"? Depends in whether Google is up or not? -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to learn from their mistakes. (Adapted from Stephen Pinker)

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Re: Trivium
by Larry Sheldon 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

On 8/20/2013 12:29 AM, Matthew Petach wrote: > I'm curious; do people really think that the difference in material > indexed between Google, Yahoo/Bing, and others is really that > big? I don't mean the heuristics and algorithms used to return > the results in a particularly useful order; I mean the sheer raw > set of indexed pages. I don't debate that Google found a > particularly useful page ranking system; but I question the > notion that the loss of Google was akin to the loss of your > root directory. I don't think the other engines are nearly as badly poisoned by the SEO crap. -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to learn from their mistakes. (Adapted from Stephen Pinker)

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Re: Trivium
by Larry Sheldon 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

On 8/20/2013 12:12 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com> wrote: > >>> Without Google, how do you know where anything even *is*? >> >> ask that to 20% of the world's population > > > Turning off Google is essentially doing a rm -rf http:// www-wide > analog to rm -rf / or temporarily loss of the root directory, > pending a fsck. I disagree categorically with that. Turning off Google affects at most my use of electric maps--they still have a better setup than any of the others I have tried. I use Bing, but there are lots of other engines around--some of them a lot more honest. The scary thing to me is that since most of the medicos I see have gone to an Obamacare-compliant records system and all I see is people's backsides at their computer terminal as they use a Google dialog box for most of what they do. -- Requiescas in pace o email Two identifying characteristics of System Administrators: Ex turpi causa non oritur actio Infallibility, and the ability to learn from their mistakes. (Adapted from Stephen Pinker)

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Netscout experiences
by Blake Dunlap 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

Greetings, Anyone out there have experiences with Netscout or any of their nGenius products and wish to share impressions? Currently looking at them in comparison to say Netbrain, NetQoS, smarts, etc. -Blake

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AS174 - cogent - someone without denial syndrome please
by Chris Conn 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

Any BGP admins from AS174 monitoring NANOG? I would appreciate a quick email exchange regarding access to www.cogentco.com from some prefixes. Thanks, Chris

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Third Party Software Audit
by Aaron D. Osgood 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

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mail.mil contact?
by Antonio Querubin 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

Wondering if anyone else is receiving reports of email to mail.mil addresses being delayed or refused? The mail.mil mx appear to be selectively refusing mail. If anyone has good (non-email) contact info for the mail.mil operators please send it my way. Thanks. Antonio Querubin e-mail: tony(a)lavanauts.org xmpp: antonioquerubin(a)gmail.com

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BGP Route Issues
by Christopher Karel 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

Good evening, I'm hoping you guys might be able to offer some advice or insight into a BGP problem I've got. I've noticed some strange routes between our network, AS27270, and AS22943. It looks like both our networks are dual homed. One ISP as the primary, and the other used as a backup, with path prepending to prevent it from actually being used except in an outage. However, our route to 22943 appears to be using their backup link. (27270 4323 7018 22943 22943 22943 22943 22943 22943 22943 22943 22943 22943 22943) Which is strange, because we can reach their primary ISP without any such rigmarole. Playing around with Looking Glass servers indicates that Cogent (AS174) has a similar backup route to our network. (174 22402 27270 27270 27270 27270 27270 27270) Everywhere else I check seems perfectly sane. But since Cogent is essentially in-between the two networks I'm troubleshooting, I would assume that the other network has a similar route. But Cogent won't talk with me about this, since I'm not a customer. So as far as advice goes, is there a common issue that might result in such poor routes in both directions? Any further troubleshooting that I should be doing? Or any ideas on how to help remedy things that appear to be outside our network/ISP? Or are we doing something so wrong that this is all my fault? I'd really appreciate any input on this.

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Comcast security NOC/contact
by Richard Hesse 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

Can someone from Comcast please contact me over what appears to be an ill-conceived nullroute or block regarding one of our content IP's. This issue is limited only to Comcast and only to a single IP. Please contact me to get this resolved. I'm guessing that someone wanted us offline but couldn't do it directly. So they attacked you using our spoofed IP, and your automated systems put a block in place. It would also be nice to have an actual, real NOC number listed in your whois. -richard

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Re: [Paper] B4: Experience with a Globally-Deployed Software Defined
by freedman＠freedman.net 18 Aug '13

18 Aug '13

No, people never use *flow controllers* for anything. People have been doing SDN since before Google was around. OK, so it was horrible expect scripts but it worked. Avi > Unpossible. I heard that no one really uses sdn for anything. > > :) > > T

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