Hi There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing. ls it about lop ing? How can I check it in switch? ls spammingtree disable by default? Thank you so much
http://www.amazon.com/Networking-Dummies-Doug-Lowe/dp/0470534052 Here you go.. On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:
Hi
There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing.
ls it about lop ing?
How can I check it in switch?
ls spammingtree disable by default?
Thank you so much
LOL -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 08/10/2011 04:37 PM, Tim Vollebregt wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Networking-Dummies-Doug-Lowe/dp/0470534052
Here you go.. On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:
Hi
There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing.
ls it about lop ing?
How can I check it in switch?
ls spammingtree disable by default?
Thank you so much
Is it to the point where I can just forward the emails from help desk to NANOG so I don't have to answer them? Biel On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:39 PM, -Hammer- <bhmccie@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL
-Hammer-
"I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer
On 08/10/2011 04:37 PM, Tim Vollebregt wrote:
Here you go.. On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:
Hi
There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing.
ls it about lop ing?
How can I check it in switch?
ls spammingtree disable by default?
Thank you so much
-- Jason
I just wish spammingtree was on by default. -- Leigh Porter On 10 Aug 2011, at 22:47, "Jason Biel" <jason@biel-tech.com> wrote:
Is it to the point where I can just forward the emails from help desk to NANOG so I don't have to answer them?
Biel
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:39 PM, -Hammer- <bhmccie@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL
-Hammer-
"I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer
On 08/10/2011 04:37 PM, Tim Vollebregt wrote:
Here you go.. On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:
Hi
There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing.
ls it about lop ing?
How can I check it in switch?
ls spammingtree disable by default?
Thank you so much
-- Jason
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haha! Spammingtree! I love it!!!
From: leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com To: jason@biel-tech.com Subject: Re: network issue help Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:50:27 +0000 CC: nanog@nanog.org
I just wish spammingtree was on by default.
-- Leigh Porter
On 10 Aug 2011, at 22:47, "Jason Biel" <jason@biel-tech.com> wrote:
Is it to the point where I can just forward the emails from help desk to NANOG so I don't have to answer them?
Biel
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:39 PM, -Hammer- <bhmccie@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL
-Hammer-
"I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer
On 08/10/2011 04:37 PM, Tim Vollebregt wrote:
Here you go.. On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:
Hi
There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing.
ls it about lop ing?
How can I check it in switch?
ls spammingtree disable by default?
Thank you so much
-- Jason
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:37:04 +0200, Tim Vollebregt said:
http://www.amazon.com/Networking-Dummies-Doug-Lowe/dp/0470534052
Here you go..
Oh, and he wants to read this helpful guide by Eric S. Raymond, too: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Deric doesn't know he wants to.. but he *wants* to. *Right Now*. :)
On 10/08/11 17:54 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:37:04 +0200, Tim Vollebregt said:
http://www.amazon.com/Networking-Dummies-Doug-Lowe/dp/0470534052
Here you go..
Oh, and he wants to read this helpful guide by Eric S. Raymond, too:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Deric doesn't know he wants to.. but he *wants* to. *Right Now*. :)
And along similar lines - "How to Report Bugs Effectively": http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html -- Dan White
Hi
There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing. From this i take is that you are using the avaya networking gear with
replied inline, with a summary below On 8/10/2011 2:35 PM, Deric Kwok wrote: the fcoe protocol enabled, this is a big no-no. you need to disable ipsec, then enable dns, your connection should come right back
ls it about lop ing?
it is not about lops at all, nor is it about looping, its all about the trees dude, there is a hidder feature called, treehugger protocol. and this will help prevent looping in the long term, its hidden behind the power chord, unplug the power cable from your switch, and you will see it between the three prongs. no that you can see this, test for excessive looping
How can I check it in switch?
if the step above failed, i would take the cable that is plugged into port 7 of your switch and plug the other end into port 13, it might help, i would also leave in there for a while, and go grab a cup of coffee
ls spammingtree disable by default?
only if there are branches
Thank you so much
welcome
TBH, this thread has made the hour preceding my Juniper upgrades *way* more enjoyable. On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Chaim Rieger <chaim.rieger@gmail.com>wrote:
replied inline, with a summary below
On 8/10/2011 2:35 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:
Hi
There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing.
From this i take is that you are using the avaya networking gear with the fcoe protocol enabled, this is a big no-no. you need to disable ipsec, then enable dns, your connection should come right back
ls it about lop ing?
it is not about lops at all, nor is it about looping, its all about the trees dude, there is a hidder feature called, treehugger protocol. and this will help prevent looping in the long term, its hidden behind the power chord, unplug the power cable from your switch, and you will see it between the three prongs. no that you can see this, test for excessive looping
How can I check it in switch?
if the step above failed, i would take the cable that is plugged into port 7 of your switch and plug the other end into port 13, it might help, i would also leave in there for a while, and go grab a cup of coffee
ls spammingtree disable by default?
only if there are branches
Thank you so much
welcome
-- Jason
solution: quit smoking crack. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Deric Kwok" <deric.kwok2000@gmail.com> To: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:35:18 PM Subject: network issue help
Hi
There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing.
ls it about lop ing?
How can I check it in switch?
ls spammingtree disable by default?
Thank you so much
Is there an acronym for RTFM when there are a volume of manuals that need to be read? Stefan Fouant JNCIE-M, JNCIE-ER, JNCIE-SEC, JNCI Technical Trainer, Juniper Networks http://www.shortestpathfirst.net http://www.twitter.com/sfouant Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Deric Kwok <deric.kwok2000@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing.
ls it about lop ing?
How can I check it in switch?
ls spammingtree disable by default?
Thank you so much
Yea, it's T2SP or Time to Switch Professions... Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2011, at 16:33, Stefan Fouant <sfouant@shortestpathfirst.net> wrote:
Is there an acronym for RTFM when there are a volume of manuals that need to be read?
Stefan Fouant JNCIE-M, JNCIE-ER, JNCIE-SEC, JNCI Technical Trainer, Juniper Networks http://www.shortestpathfirst.net http://www.twitter.com/sfouant
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Deric Kwok <deric.kwok2000@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
There is problem in our network. The connection is disappearing.
ls it about lop ing?
How can I check it in switch?
ls spammingtree disable by default?
Thank you so much
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 07:33:53PM -0400, Stefan Fouant wrote:
Is there an acronym for RTFM when there are a volume of manuals that need to be read?
FOAD, perhaps?
folks do get that deric's primary language isn't English right? so asking him to explain is probably 'ok'. (yes, he could have put more details into his mail, yes it would have been more helpful and quicker to an answer for him...) -chris
"When you have a Leatherman, everything looks Leathermanipulable." -- Nathan McCoy, in the Monastery
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 09:22:11PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 07:33:53PM -0400, Stefan Fouant wrote:
Is there an acronym for RTFM when there are a volume of manuals that need to be read?
FOAD, perhaps?
folks do get that deric's primary language isn't English right? so asking him to explain is probably 'ok'. (yes, he could have put more details into his mail, yes it would have been more helpful and quicker to an answer for him...)
indeed..
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Carlos Kamtha <kamtha@ak-labs.net> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 09:22:11PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 07:33:53PM -0400, Stefan Fouant wrote:
Is there an acronym for RTFM when there are a volume of manuals that need to be read?
FOAD, perhaps?
folks do get that deric's primary language isn't English right? so asking him to explain is probably 'ok'. (yes, he could have put more details into his mail, yes it would have been more helpful and quicker to an answer for him...)
indeed..
of course I forgot to do what I asked :( Deric, could you restate your question?
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:22:11 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
folks do get that deric's primary language isn't English right? so asking him to explain is probably 'ok'. (yes, he could have put more details into his mail, yes it would have been more helpful and quicker to an answer for him...)
Whatever else you might think of Eric S Raymond, the URL I cited is still the best summary I've seen, and probably the most help we can give Deric in under 64 bytes. Because let's face it, no matter *what* Deric's native language is, he's not going to get anything useful from NANOG or any other mailing list till he either reads Eric's FAQ, or otherwise learns the info in there.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:22:11 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
folks do get that deric's primary language isn't English right? so asking him to explain is probably 'ok'. (yes, he could have put more details into his mail, yes it would have been more helpful and quicker to an answer for him...)
Whatever else you might think of Eric S Raymond, the URL I cited is still the best summary I've seen, and probably the most help we can give Deric in under 64 bytes. Because let's face it, no matter *what* Deric's native language is, he's not going to get anything useful from NANOG or any other mailing list till he either reads Eric's FAQ, or otherwise learns the info in there.
Credit where due: "Smart Questions" was co-authored by Rick Moen, who apparently *couldn't* escape. (Pat yourself on the back if you got the reference, esoteric as it was.) And yes, that and Tatham are my two go-to references for people. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 07:33:53PM -0400, Stefan Fouant wrote:
Is there an acronym for RTFM when there are a volume of manuals that need to be read?
FOAD, perhaps?
folks do get that deric's primary language isn't English right? so asking him to explain is probably 'ok'. (yes, he could have put more details into his mail, yes it would have been more helpful and quicker to an answer for him...)
Well, shouldn't he be asking on the SWEINTPLNOG[1] mailing list then? Cheers, -- jra [1]Someplace Where English Is Not The Primary Langauge Network Operators' Group -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
Sorry, couldnt help it... that was my Asperger's kicking in... Stefan Fouant JNCIE-M, JNCIE-ER, JNCIE-SEC, JNCI Technical Trainer, Juniper Networks http://www.shortestpathfirst.net http://www.twitter.com/sfouant Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
folks do get that deric's primary language isn't English right? so asking him to explain is probably 'ok'. (yes, he could have put more details into his mail, yes it would have been more helpful and quicker to an answer for him...)
-chris
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:39:59AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 07:33:53PM -0400, Stefan Fouant wrote:
Is there an acronym for RTFM when there are a volume of manuals that need to be read?
FOAD, perhaps?
Well, there's ADD: Attention Deficit Disorder. Then there's ADHD: Attendion Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. And there's ADCD: Absent During Clue Distribution. I think #3 may fit best. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin
Of course you forgot ABCD : Activity Before Cogitation Disorder Phil P On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:12 PM, mikea <mikea@mikea.ath.cx> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:39:59AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 07:33:53PM -0400, Stefan Fouant wrote:
Is there an acronym for RTFM when there are a volume of manuals that need to be read?
FOAD, perhaps?
Well, there's ADD: Attention Deficit Disorder. Then there's ADHD: Attendion Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. And there's ADCD: Absent During Clue Distribution.
I think #3 may fit best.
-- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin
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