Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability): 1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country. If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q ) Thank you, -- dobrien@cpj.org Danny O'Brien, Committee to Protect Journalists gpg key: http://www.spesh.com/danny/crypto/dannyobrien-key20091106.txt
I have a server with CityNet Host in Cairo. The server and ISP are completely offline
Some interesting financial news... Unsure if this is related the outages, but interesting..... http://www.marketwatch.com/story/egypt-market-slumps-as-mideast-turmoil-spre... EGYPT: Stock market stumbles amid nationwide turbulence<http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/01/egypt-stock-market-stumbles-amidst-nationwide-turbulence.html> <http://www.marketwatch.com/story/egypt-market-slumps-as-mideast-turmoil-spreads-2011-01-27> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/01/egypt-stock-market-stu... <http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/01/egypt-stock-market-stumbles-amidst-nationwide-turbulence.html> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Christopher <caldcv@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a server with CityNet Host in Cairo. The server and ISP are completely offline
I'd suspect it's got a lot more to do with the open rioting on the streets, government shooting people, the numbers involved in protests, what happened in Tunisia next door etc. etc. Loss of Internet connectivity is relatively minor in comparison. Any investor with even half a brain is going to twig that's just not a good market to have money in right now. On 01/27/2011 02:53 PM, Craig V wrote:
Some interesting financial news... Unsure if this is related the outages, but interesting.....
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/egypt-market-slumps-as-mideast-turmoil-spre...
EGYPT: Stock market stumbles amid nationwide turbulence<http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/01/egypt-stock-market-stumbles-amidst-nationwide-turbulence.html> <http://www.marketwatch.com/story/egypt-market-slumps-as-mideast-turmoil-spreads-2011-01-27> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/01/egypt-stock-market-stu... <http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/01/egypt-stock-market-stumbles-amidst-nationwide-turbulence.html>
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Christopher<caldcv@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a server with CityNet Host in Cairo. The server and ISP are completely offline
On Jan 27, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote:
Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability):
1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria
The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country.
If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )
On twitter (follow the #jan25 and #jan28 hash tags), there are many reports of loss of internet connectivity in Egypt. Apparently cell phones and land lines are still working. Of course, the assumption there is that this is connected to the large protests expected tomorrow in Egypt. Regards Marshall
Thank you,
-- dobrien@cpj.org Danny O'Brien, Committee to Protect Journalists gpg key: http://www.spesh.com/danny/crypto/dannyobrien-key20091106.txt
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> wrote:
On twitter (follow the #jan25 and #jan28 hash tags), there are many reports of loss of internet connectivity in Egypt. Apparently cell phones and land lines are still working.
Of course, the assumption there is that this is connected to the large protests expected tomorrow in Egypt.
The U.S Embassy in Cairo website is also unreachable, as well as the main Egyptian Governmental portal: %ping www.egypt.gov.eg Pinging www.egypt.gov.eg [81.21.104.81] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 81.21.104.81: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), %tracert cairo.usembassy.gov Tracing route to cairo.usembassy.gov [62.140.73.207] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 4 ms 2 ms 1 ms 62.140.73.207 [snip] 7 37 ms 27 ms 28 ms ix-1-1-0-0.tcore1.LVW-LosAngeles.as6453.net [216.6.12.25] 8 247 ms 204 ms 205 ms if-2-2.tcore2.LVW-LosAngeles.as6453.net [66.110.59.2] 9 226 ms 199 ms 204 ms if-8-1508.tcore2.AEQ-Ashburn.as6453.net [64.86.252.74] 10 289 ms 301 ms 219 ms if-2-2.tcore1.AEQ-Ashburn.as6453.net [216.6.87.2] 11 190 ms 252 ms 204 ms if-6-871.tcore1.PVU-Paris.as6453.net [216.6.51.58] 12 197 ms 204 ms 203 ms if-11-1-0-1411.core1.PV1-Paris.as6453.net [80.231.153.13] 13 229 ms 229 ms 236 ms ix-9-0-0.core1.PV1-Paris.as6453.net [195.219.215.38] 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * ^C %ping cairo.usembassy.gov Pinging cairo.usembassy.gov [62.140.73.207] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 62.140.73.207: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), % Information related to '62.140.73.0 - 62.140.73.255' inetnum: 62.140.73.0 - 62.140.73.255 netname: EG-NMC descr: AW-NMC descr: For any abuse complain contact abuse@nile-online.com country: EG admin-c: IM217-AFRINIC tech-c: IA119-AFRINIC tech-c: IM217-AFRINIC tech-c: OM2093-AFRINIC status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: O-MAHMOUD remarks: data has been transferred from RIPE Whois Database 20050221 source: AFRINIC # Filtered parent: 62.140.64.0 - 62.140.127.255 role: IP Address Manager address: top of address: pyramid address: sand address: sahara phone: +202 37611153 phone: +202 37611123 fax-no: +202 37607656 e-mail: ipadmin@nile-online.com e-mail: ashwadfy@nile-online.com e-mail: mhalim@nile-online.com admin-c: MS22-Afrinic admin-c: MMK1-AFRINIC tech-c: AS38-Afrinic nic-hdl: IM217-AFRINIC source: AFRINIC # Filtered role: IP Address Admin address: 15 Mohamed Hafez St., address: Mohandessin address: Giza address: Egypt phone: +202 37611153 phone: +202 37611123 fax-no: +202 37607656 e-mail: ipadmin@nile-online.com e-mail: ashwadfy@nile-online.com e-mail: mhalim@nile-online.com admin-c: MS22-Afrinic tech-c: AS38-Afrinic nic-hdl: IA119-AFRINIC remarks: data has been transferred from RIPE Whois Database 20050221 source: AFRINIC # Filtered person: Omar Mahmoud nic-hdl: OM2093-AFRINIC address: 15 Mohamed Hafez St., address: Mohandessin address: Giza address: Egypt address: Cairo address: Egypt e-mail: mispeng-core@etisalatdata.net phone: +202 7606677 fax-no: +202 7607656 remarks: For any abuse complain contact abuse@nile-online.com remarks: data has been transferred from RIPE Whois Database 20050221 mnt-by: O-MAHMOUD source: AFRINIC # Filtered - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFNQhpoq1pz9mNUZTMRAkPsAKDQ4y08/I45IS/0XfNZ7kMbciQ61wCfQDJ9 Gm/f4cSJ9lY5BI4fBjdr+vU= =SRH3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
Hi, Looking at the BGP announcements it seems that the problem started at around 22:28 UTC. Most of the Autonomous systems operating in Egypt are currently not announcing any or at least significantly less prefixes. The one exception seems to be AS20928 (Noor Data Networks). For more details also see: http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=450 Cheers, Andree .-- My secret spy satellite informs me that at 11-01-27 3:47 PM Danny O'Brien wrote:
Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability):
1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria
The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country.
If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )
Thank you,
And to add to this thread, an graph of Egyptian Internet traffic across a large number of geographically / topologically diverse providers yesterday (Jan 27): http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5291/5395027368_7d97b74c0b_b.jpg Traffic drops to a handful of megabits following the withdrawal of most Egyptian ISP BGP routes. - Craig On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Andree Toonk wrote:
Hi,
Looking at the BGP announcements it seems that the problem started at around 22:28 UTC.
Most of the Autonomous systems operating in Egypt are currently not announcing any or at least significantly less prefixes. The one exception seems to be AS20928 (Noor Data Networks).
For more details also see: http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=450
Cheers, Andree
------------------------ Craig Labovitz | Chief Scientist, Arbor Networks http://www.monkey.org/~labovit
On 1/27/2011 9:36 PM, Craig Labovitz wrote:
And to add to this thread, an graph of Egyptian Internet traffic across a large number of geographically / topologically diverse providers yesterday (Jan 27):
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5291/5395027368_7d97b74c0b_b.jpg
Traffic drops to a handful of megabits following the withdrawal of most Egyptian ISP BGP routes.
- Craig
I don't think there is any doubt in anyone's mind on the fact that the service is being interrupted somehow. The question is why. Being an old fart, I tend to dig up stories that explain my point. Almost two years ago, I woke up one morning and got on my trusty computer to read email, etc. I couldn't reach the Internet. My microwave to my ISP was up but their uplinks were either down or just went a few hops and died. I tried to dial in but that just got a fast busy signal. Calls to the ISP help desks involved via my land line also got fast busy or "your call could not be completed". Now getting a bit worried, I dug out my cellphone and had no bars. Usually I got all of them here. I immediately thought of 9/11 and was speculating that some terrorist attack had struck. I quickly went to the family room and powered up the satellite TV. Everything seemed normal. No attacks. You probably know the rest. 30 miles away in San Jose, someone went down a manhole and severed some fiber cables. It turns out that all the services involved (AT&T, Verizon, Qwest, Cogent, etc) all were in that manhole. Almost 200,000 people had no communications for most of the day. Moral of the story: Separate facts from assumptions and guesses. I did some Google searches and that region has had large scale disruptions in the past. Several cables follow the same path to the Suez canal and were hit. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/2008_submarine_cable_disrupti...
On 1/27/11 10:49 PM, Roy wrote:
On 1/27/2011 9:36 PM, Craig Labovitz wrote:
And to add to this thread, an graph of Egyptian Internet traffic across a large number of geographically / topologically diverse providers yesterday (Jan 27):
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5291/5395027368_7d97b74c0b_b.jpg
Traffic drops to a handful of megabits following the withdrawal of most Egyptian ISP BGP routes.
- Craig
I don't think there is any doubt in anyone's mind on the fact that the service is being interrupted somehow. The question is why.
The BBC doesn't seem to have too much trouble coming to a conclusion as to why. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12303564 internal communications are disrupted as are external commucations. from renesys http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually simultaneous withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global routing table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving no valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange Internet traffic with Egypt's service providers. <snip>
Moral of the story: Separate facts from assumptions and guesses. I did some Google searches and that region has had large scale disruptions in the past. Several cables follow the same path to the Suez canal and were hit.
my links through the region are all fine, but they don't jump off the cable in egypt just pass through.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/2008_submarine_cable_disrupti...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
On 1/27/11 10:49 PM, Roy wrote:
Moral of the story: Separate facts from assumptions and guesses. I did some Google searches and that region has had large scale disruptions in the past. Several cables follow the same path to the Suez canal and were hit.
my links through the region are all fine, but they don't jump off the cable in egypt just pass through.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/2008_submarine_cable_disr uption
To my knowledge, no one has reported any cable problems in Norther Africa - -- and news of those problems generally travels very fast. :-) Also, if there *was* a cable problem on one of the paths through the vicinity, it affect more than just Egypt: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Cable_map18.svg I don't think it takes a leap of imagination to understand what has happened here. - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFNQnQ0q1pz9mNUZTMRAoFQAKCE8P0wINouFWUvW9GFn7FR6XVmOwCdGV/i VzTaxnJQOPVqyY2bP8ZraDA= =daOC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
Looks like you can still make phone calls into Egypt. So it's not totally lights out... Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 Fax: +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com / www.race.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:46 PM To: Joel Jaeggli Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
On 1/27/11 10:49 PM, Roy wrote:
Moral of the story: Separate facts from assumptions and guesses. I did some Google searches and that region has had large scale disruptions in the past. Several cables follow the same path to the Suez canal and were hit.
my links through the region are all fine, but they don't jump off the cable in egypt just pass through.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/2008_submarine_cable_d isr uption
To my knowledge, no one has reported any cable problems in Norther Africa - -- and news of those problems generally travels very fast. :-) Also, if there *was* a cable problem on one of the paths through the vicinity, it affect more than just Egypt: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Cable_map18.svg I don't think it takes a leap of imagination to understand what has happened here. - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFNQnQ0q1pz9mNUZTMRAoFQAKCE8P0wINouFWUvW9GFn7FR6XVmOwCdGV/i VzTaxnJQOPVqyY2bP8ZraDA= =daOC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
Hi, We did some analysis of the situation in Egypt using the RIPEstat toolbox (please note, this is a prototype and we're not sure how it will handle a big load): http://labs.ripe.net/Members/akvadrako/live_eqyptian_internet_incident_analy... Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC Carlos Alcantar wrote:
Looks like you can still make phone calls into Egypt. So it's not totally lights out...
Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 Fax: +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com / www.race.com
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:46 PM To: Joel Jaeggli Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
On 1/27/11 10:49 PM, Roy wrote:
Moral of the story: Separate facts from assumptions and guesses. I did some Google searches and that region has had large scale disruptions in the past. Several cables follow the same path to the Suez canal and were hit. my links through the region are all fine, but they don't jump off the cable in egypt just pass through.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/2008_submarine_cable_d isr uption
To my knowledge, no one has reported any cable problems in Norther Africa - -- and news of those problems generally travels very fast. :-)
Also, if there *was* a cable problem on one of the paths through the vicinity, it affect more than just Egypt:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Cable_map18.svg
I don't think it takes a leap of imagination to understand what has happened here.
- - ferg
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-- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Mirjam Kuehne wrote: > Hi, > > We did some analysis of the situation in Egypt using the RIPEstat toolbox (please note, this is a prototype and we're not sure how it will handle a big load): > > http://labs.ripe.net/Members/akvadrako/live_eqyptian_internet_incident_analysis This - specifically http://stat.ripe.net/egypt/ - shows another big spike today, which is presumably when Noor.net was pulled. Marshall > > Mirjam Kuehne > RIPE NCC > > > Carlos Alcantar wrote: >> Looks like you can still make phone calls into Egypt. So it's not totally lights out... >> Carlos Alcantar >> Race Communications / Race Team Member 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080 >> Phone: +1 415 376 3314 Fax: +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com / www.race.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:46 PM >> To: Joel Jaeggli >> Cc: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote: >>> On 1/27/11 10:49 PM, Roy wrote: >>>> Moral of the story: Separate facts from assumptions and guesses. I did some Google searches and that region has had large scale disruptions in the past. Several cables follow the same path to the Suez canal and were hit. >>> my links through the region are all fine, but they don't jump off the cable in egypt just pass through. >>> >>>> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/2008_submarine_cable_d >>>> isr >>>> uption >>>> >> To my knowledge, no one has reported any cable problems in Norther Africa >> - -- and news of those problems generally travels very fast. :-) >> Also, if there *was* a cable problem on one of the paths through the vicinity, it affect more than just Egypt: >> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Cable_map18.svg >> I don't think it takes a leap of imagination to understand what has happened here. >> - - ferg >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) >> wj8DBQFNQnQ0q1pz9mNUZTMRAoFQAKCE8P0wINouFWUvW9GFn7FR6XVmOwCdGV/i >> VzTaxnJQOPVqyY2bP8ZraDA= >> =daOC >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> -- >> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson >> Engineering Architecture for the Internet >> fergdawgster(at)gmail.com >> ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ > > >
On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:29 AM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
Looks like you can still make phone calls into Egypt. So it's not totally lights out...
Mobile is apparently being shut down now : http://www.vodafone.com/content/index/press.html Statement - Vodafone Egypt All mobile operators in Egypt have been instructed to suspend services in selected areas. Under Egyptian legislation the authorities have the right to issue such an order and we are obliged to comply with it. The Egyptian authorities will be clarifying the situation in due course . ----- I think that clarifications are unnecessary in this case. Regards Marshall
Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 Fax: +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com / www.race.com
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 11:46 PM To: Joel Jaeggli Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
On 1/27/11 10:49 PM, Roy wrote:
Moral of the story: Separate facts from assumptions and guesses. I did some Google searches and that region has had large scale disruptions in the past. Several cables follow the same path to the Suez canal and were hit.
my links through the region are all fine, but they don't jump off the cable in egypt just pass through.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/2008_submarine_cable_d isr uption
To my knowledge, no one has reported any cable problems in Norther Africa - -- and news of those problems generally travels very fast. :-)
Also, if there *was* a cable problem on one of the paths through the vicinity, it affect more than just Egypt:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Cable_map18.svg
I don't think it takes a leap of imagination to understand what has happened here.
- - ferg
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On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 22:49 -0800, Roy wrote:
On 1/27/2011 9:36 PM, Craig Labovitz wrote:
And to add to this thread, an graph of Egyptian Internet traffic across a large number of geographically / topologically diverse providers yesterday (Jan 27):
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5291/5395027368_7d97b74c0b_b.jpg
Traffic drops to a handful of megabits following the withdrawal of most Egyptian ISP BGP routes.
Moral of the story: Separate facts from assumptions and guesses. I did some Google searches and that region has had large scale disruptions in the past. Several cables follow the same path to the Suez canal and were hit.
I guess this begs the question of whether or not we're seeing actual layer1 going down or just the effects of mass BGP withdrawals. Are we seeing lights out on fibre links or just peering sessions going down? Both could still point to a coordinated intentional blackout by the Egyptian gov't though. -- /*=================[ Jake Khuon <khuon@NEEBU.Net> ]=================+ | Packet Plumber, Network Engineers /| / [~ [~ |) | | -------- | | for Effective Bandwidth Utilisation / |/ [_ [_ |) |_| NETWORKS | +==================================================================*/
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Jake Khuon <khuon@neebu.net> wrote:
I guess this begs the question of whether or not we're seeing actual layer1 going down or just the effects of mass BGP withdrawals. Are we seeing lights out on fibre links or just peering sessions going down? Both could still point to a coordinated intentional blackout by the Egyptian gov't though.
out of curiousity, what's the difference though between loss of light and peer shutdown? If the local gov't comes in and says: "Make the internets go down", you as the op choose how to do that... NOT getting calls from your peer for interface alarms is probably sane. You can simply drop your routes, leave BGP running even and roll ... If it's clear (and it seems to be) that the issue is a nation-state-decision... implementation (how it's done, no IF it's done) isn't really important, is it? -chris
I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost. Jared Mauch On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Jake Khuon <khuon@neebu.net> wrote:
I guess this begs the question of whether or not we're seeing actual layer1 going down or just the effects of mass BGP withdrawals. Are we seeing lights out on fibre links or just peering sessions going down? Both could still point to a coordinated intentional blackout by the Egyptian gov't though.
out of curiousity, what's the difference though between loss of light and peer shutdown? If the local gov't comes in and says: "Make the internets go down", you as the op choose how to do that... NOT getting calls from your peer for interface alarms is probably sane. You can simply drop your routes, leave BGP running even and roll ...
If it's clear (and it seems to be) that the issue is a nation-state-decision... implementation (how it's done, no IF it's done) isn't really important, is it?
-chris
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost.
The question is not whether that would it (it obviously would). The question is whether it is important if the laser stops blinking or just blinks in ways that end users can't see all the YouTube, web pages, twitter posts, etc. that the gov't doesn't want them to see. I think it does not matter. Censorship is censorship. (So much for "routing around it".) -- TTFN, patrick
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Jake Khuon <khuon@neebu.net> wrote:
I guess this begs the question of whether or not we're seeing actual layer1 going down or just the effects of mass BGP withdrawals. Are we seeing lights out on fibre links or just peering sessions going down? Both could still point to a coordinated intentional blackout by the Egyptian gov't though.
out of curiousity, what's the difference though between loss of light and peer shutdown? If the local gov't comes in and says: "Make the internets go down", you as the op choose how to do that... NOT getting calls from your peer for interface alarms is probably sane. You can simply drop your routes, leave BGP running even and roll ...
If it's clear (and it seems to be) that the issue is a nation-state-decision... implementation (how it's done, no IF it's done) isn't really important, is it?
-chris
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:27 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
I think it does not matter. Censorship is censorship. (So much for "routing around it".)
Obviously for the effected, the effects are the same. |8^) However, I'm interested in knowing about the level of fine control that the Egyptian government may have exercised. I think the subtle implications on the relationships between operators and governments bear some fine distinction in such a case. Also I think there will eventually be different consequences between an indiscriminate mass disconnect of all telecom and network services and a selective one where some of the infrastructure is left intact but under tighter control... especially if internal reach is still selectively available while external reach has been disabled. -- /*=================[ Jake Khuon <khuon@NEEBU.Net> ]=================+ | Packet Plumber, Network Engineers /| / [~ [~ |) | | -------- | | for Effective Bandwidth Utilisation / |/ [_ [_ |) |_| NETWORKS | +==================================================================*/
-----Original Message----- From: Jake Khuon [mailto:khuon@neebu.net] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:07 PM To: Patrick W. Gilmore Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:27 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
I think it does not matter. Censorship is censorship. (So much for "routing around it".)
I think it would be pretty hard to actually cut off communications when the telephone system is still working. You can move a lot of email by dialup UUCP if you wanted to. I am guessing that satellite internet still works and landline dialup to a modem outside the country still works. And there's always static routes :)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2011 12:36 PM, George Bonser wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Jake Khuon [mailto:khuon@neebu.net] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:07 PM To: Patrick W. Gilmore Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:27 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
I think it does not matter. Censorship is censorship. (So much for "routing around it".)
I think it would be pretty hard to actually cut off communications when the telephone system is still working. You can move a lot of email by dialup UUCP if you wanted to.
Right. In a government regulated monopoly telcom carrier.
I am guessing that satellite internet still works
If people can't afford to eat, I doubt they can afford satellite internet. and landline dialup to a modem outside the country still works. This presumes people have long distance plans. And there's always static routes :) To what? If everyone has dropped BGP sessions how are you as an end user going to setup static routes? Unless there are no firewalls and everything is wide open how would you reach gateways? - -- Charles N Wyble (charles@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNQyyUAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAt2ZoQALt3Arteje09ssqAkrbsretj BuH1UyzK6VNpyk9q72p9C10XowqNE9BGTni+B1lZxh4VNY/cSdRaQFQO9DsMt+ww dWl4HAu/PswRkWGrdQ2DIncRuXd8D6IOQ+ggv2I3cA6Pxi9Ep3rg5GF63+x1fTff 6SCU+FWjTe4ghkeDkR7d2L/6DESJiZCR1DojBMIPf1/W8TTllqmCXflPW6cLgIlC gBqiCVM24FhMBmNzGGjfcnfoQnCcwFD5qAVPBcMh0Y9Hz5olEN2F0tsgYSbG2szH 3UD4ocZ07xLMAG1LdkjoEJmORdAQOv5GL2nkFFCi+/K6sMTyhRhBkO03DA0tOkRN M/wJIrRMeSS5ur6NBy0PDgHcHYo138w5wUAoZi3B8JrfiP+cxJ+oEMm6LDDLTNV7 NbKgpkUOeAvi+qhXo2BUbXpZv8Oh/OAedwIu7/5xHx8YPm2Bq9OTkZrPECslig/G p2NCWpohbKfUn0EeN/NdutxWX/O6YY3y5mB/wfFasnr0kvi413QOMnRViOSgfNY/ DTtpzTc7aahY0L2uAU21qTZIMDRuB/aYaHfbfsKpL2LGdxq/JFm6sQQ/IeN5Q7ii 0QvMDM04Eqi4cCgut7p3DKTjkxFnU9Wilo/A8jeY4CRVH1I/Afft6aDh7GZNPKgr QaEcUTQLrfCF284d1XSl =QICt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Thank you Charles on 1/28/11 12:52 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote:
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On 01/28/2011 12:36 PM, George Bonser wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Jake Khuon [mailto:khuon@neebu.net] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:07 PM To: Patrick W. Gilmore Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:27 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
I think it does not matter. Censorship is censorship. (So much for "routing around it".)
I think it would be pretty hard to actually cut off communications when the telephone system is still working. You can move a lot of email by dialup UUCP if you wanted to.
Right. In a government regulated monopoly telcom carrier.
I am guessing that satellite internet still works
If people can't afford to eat, I doubt they can afford satellite internet.
and landline dialup to a modem outside the country still works.
This presumes people have long distance plans.
And there's always static routes :)
To what? If everyone has dropped BGP sessions how are you as an end user going to setup static routes? Unless there are no firewalls and everything is wide open how would you reach gateways?
- -- Charles N Wyble (charles@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
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On Friday 28 January 2011 20:36:30 George Bonser wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Jake Khuon [mailto:khuon@neebu.net] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:07 PM To: Patrick W. Gilmore Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:27 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
I think it does not matter. Censorship is censorship. (So much for
"routing around it".)
I think it would be pretty hard to actually cut off communications when the telephone system is still working. You can move a lot of email by dialup UUCP if you wanted to.
I am guessing that satellite internet still works and landline dialup to a modem outside the country still works. And there's always static routes :)
International dial-out is a good point, especially these days when international voice isn't wildly expensive any more. Does anyone have a source for dialup pools like that? Personally, I suspect that it's probably more important to cut off internal comms. Especially as the TV and media people are pretty good at bringing their own satellite connectivity. Which is more worrying, someone updating their wordpress.com blog, or the same person texting everyone they know to show up outside State TV at 1700 hours and bring a bag of bricks? A lot of the fbk/twt/whatever activity, and all the really politically important fraction of it, is just that - but going through either externally located servers or externally-owned ones. I wonder if anyone's working on a mesh or p-t-p radio app that runs on a smartphone? -- The only thing worse than e-mail disclaimers...is people who send e-mail to lists complaining about them
On 1/28/2011 1:02 PM, Alexander Harrowell wrote:
I wonder if anyone's working on a mesh or p-t-p radio app that runs on a smartphone?
Yes - came across http://www.servalproject.org/ from the linux.conf.au program.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2011 01:02 PM, Alexander Harrowell wrote:
On Friday 28 January 2011 20:36:30 George Bonser wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Jake Khuon [mailto:khuon@neebu.net] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:07 PM To: Patrick W. Gilmore Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:27 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
I think it does not matter. Censorship is censorship. (So much for
"routing around it".)
I think it would be pretty hard to actually cut off communications when the telephone system is still working. You can move a lot of email by dialup UUCP if you wanted to.
I wonder if anyone's working on a mesh or p-t-p radio app that runs on a smartphone?
Yes. http://www.servalproject.org/ - -- Charles N Wyble (charles@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNQzHxAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAtV60P+wUsrIDsZJrS7L2reSL0GhF7 LOZlTAWG4LeuJQnt6GfpKVJlZgoR1/ucm1NLZDnJeJ6+14sB0CqMipd2XDse5shB zWzvdHn0yGF/RQEnEpZPhQv83crbLVBN2k56KoPkgxbuBwLRdmIZkvSSTXbeAqXy ovQWTGMQWxjT0IUYFylljFo1Djsx/aFeMm+MW5R+9bSL4DASg802ozi2oxVeSpzP lbYsp2ZOtPq3XkWRE3g2JeA/BEJiVJ0BRGUSuoSKUVRsvW4qwlGK1ZUFmNeQ+7xn 0tCucyAhpe/ir3eLm0fMpXk0haXzbpns6oxfudUdMXPLO6PwtYNC/DgBIxlnxDxQ 7G9YD6O63xsRLf3VclDVYgvgwpm6YEIVcjZ4pg/fk1IpKazEB1UlQl10UaFItRvC V7Vo6sK9wzs4GddNwXVJFa919IP3bRsFY7wnWDNES/Nb71vmzvZlk1eEMITn/F1S zxDr1MQdAnsiWYqG7CFjrWjVNCOK/1x7msmIdRpUB31TyMRnzFWxb4JxXEweVbRo VulT+c1fNVyag+YnIkI1nj/8U5zfPygZXMx4FQhMCtA4dqcBeN2W01P0vDJnUuVH zGASBV18/4F1MGduC9zKU1yW4pTxTt0/t/o/o4/SkAMz8BCDvo7vct+3+3Y9+v4p aovANFV1Q3cNt+0GMqQS =UYCf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I have also seen reports that Syria has severed their Internet access, as well: http://af.reuters.com/article/tunisiaNews/idAFLDE70P18Y20110126 http://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/31002490816167936 Can anyone confirm that?
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:36:30 PST, George Bonser said:
I think it would be pretty hard to actually cut off communications when the telephone system is still working. You can move a lot of email by dialup UUCP if you wanted to.
Sure, just pop onto amazon.com and order a modem... oh, wait. (It's certainly doable, but decidedly nontrivial, and will require much sneakernet to bootstrap)
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost.
I believe that was the case for Burma, for example. Marshall
Jared Mauch
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Jake Khuon <khuon@neebu.net> wrote:
I guess this begs the question of whether or not we're seeing actual layer1 going down or just the effects of mass BGP withdrawals. Are we seeing lights out on fibre links or just peering sessions going down? Both could still point to a coordinated intentional blackout by the Egyptian gov't though.
out of curiousity, what's the difference though between loss of light and peer shutdown? If the local gov't comes in and says: "Make the internets go down", you as the op choose how to do that... NOT getting calls from your peer for interface alarms is probably sane. You can simply drop your routes, leave BGP running even and roll ...
If it's clear (and it seems to be) that the issue is a nation-state-decision... implementation (how it's done, no IF it's done) isn't really important, is it?
-chris
Does anybody knows what is the situation with local traffic, are people able to communicate within the country, are there any local servers/services that are being blocked/etc. ? -J
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Jorge Amodio <jmamodio@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anybody knows what is the situation with local traffic, are people able to communicate within the country, are there any local servers/services that are being blocked/etc. ?
-J
According to CBC in Canada this morning...
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/01/28/egypt-protests.html Internet, data services cut Internet and cellphone data service was unavailable throughout the country, making it impossible for news of the protests to be broadcast via social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter. The lack of service made it virtually impossible for Egyptians, who use mobile phones almost exclusively, to communicate with one another. Protest organizers had also been using social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter to spread information about the protests. In the United States, Mubarak's closest Western ally, the State Department, said the "events unfolding in Egypt are of deep concern." "Fundamental rights must be respected, violence avoided and open communications allowed," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said on Twitter. According to reports, the government ordered internet service providers to cut service early Friday morning. Egypt's four primary internet providers — Link Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr — all stopped moving data in and out of the country at 12:34 a.m., according to a network security firm monitoring the traffic. (The service provider Noor, which is used by the Egyptian stock exchange, remained active.) An estimated one million people were expected to take part in the demonstrations Friday afternoon, which began following prayers at mosques in Cairo and elsewhere. Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/01/28/egypt-protests.html#ixzz1CLlbJhdl cheers Jeff
On 2011-01-28, at 11:33, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost.
I believe that was the case for Burma, for example.
It was not the case in Nepal in 2005 though, if I remember correctly. In that case connectivity to the outside was maintained, but access to that connectivity by people inside the country was curtailed. Joe
If I'm correct, in 2000 in Fiji, the main fiber optic cable from the national provider to the international provider was sabotaged, cutting all communications. Fortunately an Alcatel team was on the island (SCC commissioning) with the right tools and could splice it back in a few hours, otherwise Fiji would have gone dark for days... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Abley" <jabley@hopcount.ca> To: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@americafree.tv> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, 29 January, 2011 7:32:07 AM Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt On 2011-01-28, at 11:33, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost.
I believe that was the case for Burma, for example.
It was not the case in Nepal in 2005 though, if I remember correctly. In that case connectivity to the outside was maintained, but access to that connectivity by people inside the country was curtailed. Joe
As an update, BGP for Noor.net has been withdrawn. Even the Egyptian stock exchange - egyptse.com - now appears to be off the Internet. DNS for egyptse.com also appears to be down, but Noor.net is definitely withdrawn : dig www.noor.net ; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> www.noor.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15709 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.noor.net. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.noor.net. 503 IN CNAME noor.net. noor.net. 503 IN A 217.139.227.20 show ip bgp 217.139.227.20 % Network not in table Marshall On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
If I'm correct, in 2000 in Fiji, the main fiber optic cable from the national provider to the international provider was sabotaged, cutting all communications. Fortunately an Alcatel team was on the island (SCC commissioning) with the right tools and could splice it back in a few hours, otherwise Fiji would have gone dark for days...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Abley" <jabley@hopcount.ca> To: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@americafree.tv> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, 29 January, 2011 7:32:07 AM Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
On 2011-01-28, at 11:33, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost.
I believe that was the case for Burma, for example.
It was not the case in Nepal in 2005 though, if I remember correctly. In that case connectivity to the outside was maintained, but access to that connectivity by people inside the country was curtailed.
Joe
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv>wrote:
As an update, BGP for Noor.net has been withdrawn. Even the Egyptian stock exchange - egyptse.com - now appears to be off the Internet.
Yep, Noor is now down. Those on the ground with Noor DSL in Cairo contacted their front line support, and they're saying "technical problems" that will take a few hours to fix. Does anyone has a list of routes that are still up, and seem to correlate with Egyptian locations? Andree's last list is here: http://bgpmon.net/egypt-routes-jan29-2011.txt I'm staring at looking glass output to check these remaining routes, and that seems unfair on both those offering those free services, and my own sanity... d.
DNS for egyptse.com also appears to be down, but Noor.net is definitely withdrawn :
dig www.noor.net
; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> www.noor.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15709 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.noor.net. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION: www.noor.net. 503 IN CNAME noor.net. noor.net. 503 IN A 217.139.227.20
show ip bgp 217.139.227.20 % Network not in table
Marshall
On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
If I'm correct, in 2000 in Fiji, the main fiber optic cable from the national provider to the international provider was sabotaged, cutting all communications. Fortunately an Alcatel team was on the island (SCC commissioning) with the right tools and could splice it back in a few hours, otherwise Fiji would have gone dark for days...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Abley" <jabley@hopcount.ca> To: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@americafree.tv> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, 29 January, 2011 7:32:07 AM Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
On 2011-01-28, at 11:33, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost.
I believe that was the case for Burma, for example.
It was not the case in Nepal in 2005 though, if I remember correctly. In that case connectivity to the outside was maintained, but access to that connectivity by people inside the country was curtailed.
Joe
Hi, Danny.
Does anyone has a list of routes that are still up, and seem to correlate with Egyptian locations? Andree's last list is here: http://bgpmon.net/egypt-routes-jan29-2011.txt
We see the following ASNs presently: ASN CC AS Name 6762 | IT | SEABONE-NET TELECOM ITALIA SPARKLE S.p.A. 8452 | IT | TE-AS TE-AS 15834 | EG | Menanet-AS 24863 | EG | LINKdotNET-AS 28045 | DO | Pantel Communications 33782 | EG | BA-AS 33789 | EG | Internet2 36992 | EG | ETISALAT-MISR We saw the count of prefixes decrease from circa 204 to 98. We see the following IPv4 prefixes presently: IPv4 Prefix ASN 41.32.214.0/24 | 8452 41.32.215.0/24 | 8452 41.78.60.0/22 | 6762 41.129.96.0/22 | 24863 41.152.0.0/16 | 36992 41.152.0.0/17 | 36992 41.152.0.0/18 | 36992 41.152.64.0/18 | 36992 41.152.64.0/19 | 36992 41.152.128.0/17 | 36992 41.152.128.0/19 | 36992 41.152.160.0/19 | 36992 41.152.185.0/24 | 36992 41.152.192.0/18 | 36992 41.152.192.0/19 | 36992 41.152.194.0/24 | 36992 41.152.195.0/24 | 36992 41.152.197.0/24 | 36992 41.152.198.0/24 | 36992 41.153.0.0/16 | 36992 41.153.0.0/17 | 36992 41.153.0.0/19 | 36992 41.153.64.0/18 | 36992 41.153.128.0/17 | 36992 41.153.128.0/24 | 36992 41.153.133.0/24 | 36992 41.153.136.0/21 | 36992 41.153.166.0/24 | 36992 41.153.192.0/18 | 36992 41.153.195.0/24 | 36992 41.153.196.0/24 | 36992 41.153.197.0/24 | 36992 41.153.198.0/24 | 36992 41.153.199.0/24 | 36992 41.153.200.0/24 | 36992 41.153.201.0/24 | 36992 41.153.202.0/24 | 36992 41.153.203.0/24 | 36992 41.153.204.0/24 | 36992 41.153.224.0/20 | 36992 41.153.224.0/21 | 36992 41.178.15.0/24 | 24863 41.178.49.0/24 | 24863 41.178.51.0/24 | 24863 41.196.0.0/24 | 24863 41.196.200.0/24 | 24863 41.222.128.0/21 | 36992 41.222.128.0/23 | 36992 41.222.128.0/24 | 36992 41.222.129.0/24 | 36992 41.222.130.0/24 | 36992 41.222.132.0/24 | 36992 41.235.24.0/24 | 8452 62.12.96.0/19 | 15834 62.241.134.0/24 | 24863 81.4.0.0/18 | 15834 81.10.56.0/24 | 8452 81.10.81.0/24 | 8452 81.10.82.0/24 | 8452 81.10.83.0/24 | 8452 81.10.114.0/24 | 8452 81.10.116.0/22 | 8452 81.10.122.0/23 | 8452 81.10.124.0/22 | 8452 81.10.127.0/24 | 8452 81.21.100.0/24 | 33789 81.21.110.0/24 | 33789 82.201.143.0/24 | 24863 84.233.0.0/17 | 36992 163.121.128.0/24 | 8452 163.121.170.0/24 | 8452 163.121.190.0/24 | 8452 163.121.229.0/24 | 8452 195.43.10.0/24 | 24863 195.246.37.0/24 | 24863 195.246.38.0/24 | 24863 196.204.160.0/19 | 33782 196.205.23.0/24 | 24863 196.205.70.0/24 | 24863 196.205.93.0/24 | 24863 196.218.248.0/22 | 8452 196.218.252.0/22 | 8452 196.219.248.0/22 | 8452 196.219.252.0/22 | 8452 197.192.0.0/13 | 36992 197.192.0.0/17 | 36992 197.193.0.0/18 | 36992 197.193.0.0/19 | 36992 197.193.32.0/19 | 36992 197.194.128.0/17 | 36992 197.195.0.0/17 | 36992 212.103.160.0/24 | 8452 212.103.169.0/24 | 8452 213.131.64.0/24 | 24863 213.181.236.0/24 | 33789 213.247.0.0/20 | 28045 213.247.16.0/20 | 28045 217.29.128.0/20 | 15834 Thanks, Rob. -- Rob Thomas Team Cymru https://www.team-cymru.org/ "Say little and do much." M Avot 1:15
On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv>wrote:
As an update, BGP for Noor.net has been withdrawn. Even the Egyptian stock exchange - egyptse.com - now appears to be off the Internet.
Yep, Noor is now down.
Collateral damage from all of this, as detailed in http://blog.icann.org/2011/01/status-report-on-the-dns-in-egypt/ is that the Arabic script top-level domain .masr (مصر) has been unavailable since the 27th, since it is is operated by NTRA of Egypt. Regards Marshall
Those on the ground with Noor DSL in Cairo contacted their front line support, and they're saying "technical problems" that will take a few hours to fix.
Does anyone has a list of routes that are still up, and seem to correlate with Egyptian locations? Andree's last list is here: http://bgpmon.net/egypt-routes-jan29-2011.txt
I'm staring at looking glass output to check these remaining routes, and that seems unfair on both those offering those free services, and my own sanity...
d.
DNS for egyptse.com also appears to be down, but Noor.net is definitely withdrawn :
dig www.noor.net
; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> www.noor.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15709 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.noor.net. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION: www.noor.net. 503 IN CNAME noor.net. noor.net. 503 IN A 217.139.227.20
show ip bgp 217.139.227.20 % Network not in table
Marshall
On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
If I'm correct, in 2000 in Fiji, the main fiber optic cable from the national provider to the international provider was sabotaged, cutting all communications. Fortunately an Alcatel team was on the island (SCC commissioning) with the right tools and could splice it back in a few hours, otherwise Fiji would have gone dark for days...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Abley" <jabley@hopcount.ca> To: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@americafree.tv> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, 29 January, 2011 7:32:07 AM Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
On 2011-01-28, at 11:33, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost.
I believe that was the case for Burma, for example.
It was not the case in Nepal in 2005 though, if I remember correctly. In that case connectivity to the outside was maintained, but access to that connectivity by people inside the country was curtailed.
Joe
Hi Danny, .-- My secret spy satellite informs me that at 11-01-31 2:41 PM Danny O'Brien wrote:
Does anyone has a list of routes that are still up, and seem to correlate with Egyptian locations? Andree's last list is here: http://bgpmon.net/egypt-routes-jan29-2011.txt
Here's an updated list: http://www.bgpmon.net/egypt-routes-jan31-2011.txt Also see: http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=450#lastupdate Cheers, Andree
Here's an updated list: http://www.bgpmon.net/egypt-routes-jan31-2011.txt
Some decent opportunities for route aggregation in that list...
On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
As an update, BGP for Noor.net has been withdrawn. Even the Egyptian stock exchange - egyptse.com - now appears to be off the Internet.
I have been told that the Egyptian Prime Minister has publicly announced that the Internet would be restored soon, but at present neither my monitoring nor http://stat.ripe.net/egypt/ confirms this. Regards Marshall
DNS for egyptse.com also appears to be down, but Noor.net is definitely withdrawn :
dig www.noor.net
; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> www.noor.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15709 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.noor.net. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION: www.noor.net. 503 IN CNAME noor.net. noor.net. 503 IN A 217.139.227.20
show ip bgp 217.139.227.20 % Network not in table
Marshall
On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
If I'm correct, in 2000 in Fiji, the main fiber optic cable from the national provider to the international provider was sabotaged, cutting all communications. Fortunately an Alcatel team was on the island (SCC commissioning) with the right tools and could splice it back in a few hours, otherwise Fiji would have gone dark for days...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Abley" <jabley@hopcount.ca> To: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@americafree.tv> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, 29 January, 2011 7:32:07 AM Subject: Re: Connectivity status for Egypt
On 2011-01-28, at 11:33, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I have seen nation state disconnects where light is lost.
I believe that was the case for Burma, for example.
It was not the case in Nepal in 2005 though, if I remember correctly. In that case connectivity to the outside was maintained, but access to that connectivity by people inside the country was curtailed.
Joe
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 21:30, Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> wrote:
On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
As an update, BGP for Noor.net has been withdrawn. Even the Egyptian stock exchange - egyptse.com - now appears to be off the Internet.
I have been told that the Egyptian Prime Minister has publicly announced that the Internet would be restored soon, but at present neither my
Looks like it's coming back: http://stat.ripe.net/egypt ~2500 prefixes being announced now. -- teo - http://www.teoruiz.com "Res publica non dominetur"
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Teo Ruiz <teoruiz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
As an update, BGP for Noor.net has been withdrawn. Even the Egyptian stock exchange - egyptse.com - now appears to be off the Internet.
I have been told that the Egyptian Prime Minister has publicly announced
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 21:30, Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> wrote: that the Internet would be restored soon, but at present neither my
Looks like it's coming back: http://stat.ripe.net/egypt
~2500 prefixes being announced now. -- teo - http://www.teoruiz.com
"Res publica non dominetur"
Yes, confirmed from 09:29 UTC. Basically all major providers are back, full status quo ante (modulo reagg), major sites are up. http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/02/egypt-returns-to-the-internet.shtml Good thoughts go out to the guys in the EG NOCs this morning. Nanog wants to hear your war stories some day over a cup of tea. --jim
On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 06:23:39AM -0500, Jim Cowie <cowie@renesys.com> wrote a message of 29 lines which said:
Yes, confirmed from 09:29 UTC. Basically all major providers are back, full status quo ante (modulo reagg), major sites are up.
EUN (the academic network, which includes the primary name server for .EG) is still unreachable (1130 UTC).
On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Jim Cowie wrote:
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Teo Ruiz <teoruiz@gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 21:30, Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> wrote:
On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
As an update, BGP for Noor.net has been withdrawn. Even the Egyptian stock exchange - egyptse.com - now appears to be off the Internet.
I have been told that the Egyptian Prime Minister has publicly announced that the Internet would be restored soon, but at present neither my
Looks like it's coming back: http://stat.ripe.net/egypt
~2500 prefixes being announced now. -- teo - http://www.teoruiz.com
"Res publica non dominetur"
Yes, confirmed from 09:29 UTC. Basically all major providers are back, full status quo ante (modulo reagg), major sites are up.
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/02/egypt-returns-to-the-internet.shtml
It's not just BGP - DNS (based on the samples I have been testing) seems to be fully back too. Regards Marshall
Good thoughts go out to the guys in the EG NOCs this morning. Nanog wants to hear your war stories some day over a cup of tea.
--jim
Good to see the traffic back. Graphs visualizing return of Egyptian traffic volumes below. Week view: http://www.monkey.org/~labovit/egypt_back_week.png Today: http://www.monkey.org/~labovit/egypt_returns.png - Craig ------------------------ Craig Labovitz | Chief Scientist, Arbor Networks | http://www.monkey.org/~labovit On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
It's not just BGP - DNS (based on the samples I have been testing) seems to be fully back too.
Regards Marshall
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:17:58 EST, Christopher Morrow said:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Jake Khuon <khuon@neebu.net> wrote:
I guess this begs the question of whether or not we're seeing actual layer1 going down or just the effects of mass BGP withdrawals. Are we seeing lights out on fibre links or just peering sessions going down?
out of curiousity, what's the difference though between loss of light and peer shutdown?
When Jake wrote that at 2:44AM, it was still unclear if it was government mandate or accidental. The difference is that if it was government action, bringing up a peer may get you a bullet, while relighting a cable that suffered a shark attack is probably safe unless it was a shark with frickin' lasers mounted on its head - which is plausible, as covert-action sharks have been alleged in that region before: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11937285
On 1/28/2011 8:17 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
out of curiousity, what's the difference though between loss of light and peer shutdown? If the local gov't comes in and says: "Make the internets go down", you as the op choose how to do that... NOT getting calls from your peer for interface alarms is probably sane. You can simply drop your routes, leave BGP running even and roll ...
If it's clear (and it seems to be) that the issue is a nation-state-decision... implementation (how it's done, no IF it's done) isn't really important, is it?
I guess it depends on what goes down as an effect of the mandate. If it's full Layer 1 severing, then leased line and other circuits will go down too. If it's just "shut down your Internet peering sessions", then there's alternative opportunities for connectivity. For instance, our corporate WAN links into Cairo are still up (UUNET PIP). aj
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Alastair Johnson <aj@sneep.net> wrote:
For instance, our corporate WAN links into Cairo are still up (UUNET PIP).
<cough> that's the MCI PIP</cough>...
probably the .EG parts of that PIP are provided on a partner network still ... I don't think they have build of their own gear into the country, and there's a high likelihood that if state-security sees 'forbidden' traffic on those links they'll request traffic shutdown on that network as well. If you operate a network in the affected country I'm sure you'll have to comply with LEA demands... -chris
On Friday 28 January 2011 21:22:55 Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Christopher Morrow
<morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Alastair Johnson <aj@sneep.net> wrote:
For instance, our corporate WAN links into Cairo are still up (UUNET PIP).
<cough> that's the MCI PIP</cough>...
probably the .EG parts of that PIP are provided on a partner network still ... I don't think they have build of their own gear into the country, and there's a high likelihood that if state-security sees 'forbidden' traffic on those links they'll request traffic shutdown on that network as well.
If you operate a network in the affected country I'm sure you'll have to comply with LEA demands...
-chris
It's ironic that in 1991, the Soviet coup leaders had the international voice gateway shut down but left the Internet link up (who cares about some weird thing eggheads chat over?), but now, dictators in trouble pull all the BGP announcements but leave the PSTN up. Who cares about some old thing your mother uses? Not impressed by US journalists asking why the WH press secretary can't order Vodafone to turn their GSM net back on, though. 1) it's not them who would have to say no to the nice man from Central State Security with his electric shock baton, 2) VF.eg is half-owned by the Egyptian government... -- The only thing worse than e-mail disclaimers...is people who send e-mail to lists complaining about them
iMCI or WCOM? :) On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Alastair Johnson <aj@sneep.net> wrote:
For instance, our corporate WAN links into Cairo are still up (UUNET PIP).
<cough> that's the MCI PIP</cough>...
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:32 PM, jim deleskie <deleskie@gmail.com> wrote:
iMCI or WCOM? :)
w (technically the folks that engineered it were mci folk... from texas.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Alastair Johnson <aj@sneep.net> wrote:
For instance, our corporate WAN links into Cairo are still up (UUNET PIP).
<cough> that's the MCI PIP</cough>...
It is my son's turn to have the laptop so I won't bother to translate. The non-francophones can use Google's auto-xlate bot. http://www.lemonde.fr/technologies/article/2011/01/28/pour-contourner-le-blo...
On 01/28/2011 12:47 AM, Danny O'Brien wrote:
If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )
BGPmon has a quick analysis on the reachability of prefixes usually announced by the top 10 operators from Egypt: http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=450 -Lorand Jakab
On 1/27/2011 3:47 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote:
Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability):
1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria
The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country.
If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )
Thank you,
I suggest that you confine your information to the press on what you know rather than speculation on the cause. "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice" https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Roy <r.engehausen@gmail.com> wrote:
I suggest that you confine your information to the press on what you know rather than speculation on the cause.
I think the earlier references to the BGPmon blog article is sufficient to illustrate a coordinated effort in "blacking out" connectivity - again: http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=450 - - ferg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) wj8DBQFNQiXuq1pz9mNUZTMRAkMWAJ4g+Jw0f0VqZyoybvbovskchvGo3ACdE0Ef N/FTQBDz4C1hnuwD/o6Ej+M= =Z4fv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Roy <r.engehausen@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/27/2011 3:47 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote:
Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability):
1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria
The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country.
If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )
Thank you,
I suggest that you confine your information to the press on what you know rather than speculation on the cause.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
That is indeed one of the reasons why I'm seeking corroboration of the pattern of behaviour; at least to isolate and eliminate any alternative explanations. It would certainly be of operational interest (and certainly not unknown in the annals of historical "stupidity") if, say, a single fiber-cut or network upgrade was disrupting all of these different forms of communication simultaneously. On the other hand, there's only a finite number of imaginary backhoes you can conjure up before other explanations begin to trump Hanlon's razor. Right now, I think that http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=450 explains (or at least illustrates) why we were getting reports of widespread but not universal Internet interruption. See also http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml . I don't have a good explanation for the SMS problems, but lots of independent reports; I've yet to have any real confirmation of no mobile service, and lots of denials, so right now I'm going to assume that's untrue. If anyone can get explanations from their peers in the region, please pass them on (however incomplete or informal -- mail me directly if you'd rather not contribute to rumors or non-operational NANOG discussions). It's late at night in Egypt, and the biggest protests are planned for tomorrow. A great deal of life-critical systems will be under a great deal of stress during that time, and the interruptions in network connectivity would be extremely worrying. Thanks for checking this out, d.
Al Arabiya is reporting (via twitter) that the Internet has been shut of in Syria (where I have not heard of reports of protests). I have no confirmation of this as yet. Regards Marshall On Jan 27, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Roy <r.engehausen@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/27/2011 3:47 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote:
Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability):
1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria
The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country.
If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )
Thank you,
I suggest that you confine your information to the press on what you know rather than speculation on the cause.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
That is indeed one of the reasons why I'm seeking corroboration of the pattern of behaviour; at least to isolate and eliminate any alternative explanations. It would certainly be of operational interest (and certainly not unknown in the annals of historical "stupidity") if, say, a single fiber-cut or network upgrade was disrupting all of these different forms of communication simultaneously. On the other hand, there's only a finite number of imaginary backhoes you can conjure up before other explanations begin to trump Hanlon's razor.
Right now, I think that http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=450 explains (or at least illustrates) why we were getting reports of widespread but not universal Internet interruption. See also http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml .
I don't have a good explanation for the SMS problems, but lots of independent reports; I've yet to have any real confirmation of no mobile service, and lots of denials, so right now I'm going to assume that's untrue.
If anyone can get explanations from their peers in the region, please pass them on (however incomplete or informal -- mail me directly if you'd rather not contribute to rumors or non-operational NANOG discussions).
It's late at night in Egypt, and the biggest protests are planned for tomorrow. A great deal of life-critical systems will be under a great deal of stress during that time, and the interruptions in network connectivity would be extremely worrying.
Thanks for checking this out,
d.
On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Al Arabiya is reporting (via twitter) that the Internet has been shut of in Syria (where I have not heard of reports of protests).
I have no confirmation of this as yet.
I have seen no evidence if this. Can still reach services within the country.
On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Patrik Wallström wrote:
On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Al Arabiya is reporting (via twitter) that the Internet has been shut of in Syria (where I have not heard of reports of protests).
I have no confirmation of this as yet.
I have seen no evidence if this. Can still reach services within the country.
Definitely not shut down. -- TTFN, patrick
On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Patrik Wallström wrote:
On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Al Arabiya is reporting (via twitter) that the Internet has been shut of in Syria (where I have not heard of reports of protests).
I have no confirmation of this as yet.
I have seen no evidence if this. Can still reach services within the country.
Definitely not shut down.
Thanks Marshall
-- TTFN, patrick
On 28/01/2011 15:15, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Al Arabiya is reporting (via twitter) that the Internet has been shut of in Syria (where I have not heard of reports of protests).
I have no confirmation of this as yet.
AS29386 (Syrian Telecommunication Establishment) appears to be up at this time, as are all nameservers for the .sy TLD. Nick
Here is a blog by Al Jazeera on what is happening in Egypt. Look at the time stamp of 7:46. Kill-Switch is alive and well. Coming to America soon? http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/01/28/liveblog-egypts-protests-e... . *--------------------------------* *The only power people exert over us, is the power we allow them to exert.* * * *http://www.projectcensored.org/* * * *http://www.thenewamerican.com/* *--------------------------------* On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny@spesh.com> wrote:
Around 2236 UCT, we lost all Internet connectivity with our contacts in Egypt, and I'm hearing reports of (in declining order of confirmability):
1) Internet connectivity loss on major (broadband) ISPs 2) No SMS 4) Intermittent connectivity with smaller (dialup?) ISPs 5) No mobile service in major cities -- Cairo, Alexandria
The working assumption here is that the Egyptian government has made the decision to shut down all external, and perhaps internal electronic communication as a reaction to the ongoing protests in that country.
If anyone can provide more details as to what they're seeing, the extent, plus times and dates, it would be very useful. In moments like this there are often many unconfirmed rumors: I'm seeking concrete reliable confirmation which I can pass onto the press and those working to bring some communications back up (if you have a ham radio license, there is some very early work to provide emergency connectivity. Info at: http://pastebin.com/fHHBqZ7Q )
Thank you,
-- dobrien@cpj.org Danny O'Brien, Committee to Protect Journalists gpg key: http://www.spesh.com/danny/crypto/dannyobrien-key20091106.txt
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